The noble Lord, Lord Clement-Jones, has put the point that needs to be made on this clause extremely adequately, so I will not waste the House’s time any further. I look forward to hearing what the Minister has to say.

The noble Lord, Lord Clement-Jones, has put the point that needs to be made on this clause extremely adequately, so I will not waste the House’s time any further. I look forward to hearing what the Minister has to say.

I support my noble friend. It would be quite illogical for conditions to be imposed on one level of the chain and for those conditions not to pass through to the next one. Otherwise you could license somebody, put conditions on that licence and the next person down could simply...

I support my noble friend. It would be quite illogical for conditions to be imposed on one level of the chain and for those conditions not to pass through to the next one. Otherwise you could license somebody, put conditions on that licence and the next person down could simply...

My Lords, the Minister kindly accepted my previous amendment, which limited the purpose for which technical obligations could be imposed. Dare I hope that he will be equally as receptive to my amendment in this group? Amendment 78 seeks to ensure that Clause 11 is genuinely used only as a...

My Lords, the Minister kindly accepted my previous amendment, which limited the purpose for which technical obligations could be imposed. Dare I hope that he will be equally as receptive to my amendment in this group? Amendment 78 seeks to ensure that Clause 11 is genuinely used only as a...

87: Clause 13, page 15, line 16, at end insert— "( ) that those provisions do not have a significant adverse effect on legitimate users;"

87: Clause 13, page 15, line 16, at end insert— "( ) that those provisions do not have a significant adverse effect on legitimate users;"

My Lords, I tabled Amendments 137 and 138 again simply to get more detail from the Minister, as his assurances about these points were not wholly convincing. The amendments would give the Government an explicit requirement to take into account the views of radio listeners and local and community stations....

My Lords, I tabled Amendments 137 and 138 again simply to get more detail from the Minister, as his assurances about these points were not wholly convincing. The amendments would give the Government an explicit requirement to take into account the views of radio listeners and local and community stations....

137: Clause 30, page 36, line 33, after "to" insert— "(a) "

137: Clause 30, page 36, line 33, after "to" insert— "(a) "

I thank the Minister for his comments, and I thank my noble friend Lord Fowler for his support. I was delighted to hear some support from the noble Lord, Lord Clement-Jones, after the sandbagging that I received from the noble Baroness, Lady Bonham-Carter. Having raised the issue and heard how...

I thank the Minister for his comments, and I thank my noble friend Lord Fowler for his support. I was delighted to hear some support from the noble Lord, Lord Clement-Jones, after the sandbagging that I received from the noble Baroness, Lady Bonham-Carter. Having raised the issue and heard how...

I add my thanks to the Minister for listening to the concerns expressed in Committee. Amendment 126 agreed. Amendment 127 Moved by

I add my thanks to the Minister for listening to the concerns expressed in Committee. Amendment 126 agreed. Amendment 127 Moved by

My Lords, we return once again to the question of costs. I agree with the noble Lord, Lord Clement-Jones, that the subscribers, the majority of whom are legitimate users of the internet, should not bear the costs for the behaviour of the minority. As has been said in previous debates,...

My Lords, we return once again to the question of costs. I agree with the noble Lord, Lord Clement-Jones, that the subscribers, the majority of whom are legitimate users of the internet, should not bear the costs for the behaviour of the minority. As has been said in previous debates,...

My humblest apologies.

My humblest apologies.

I thank the Minister for his reply and appreciate the difficulties in defining something such as this. I am glad to have on record his reassurance that this point is covered elsewhere in the Bill. I should prefer to see it on the face of the Bill, but I beg...

I thank the Minister for his reply and appreciate the difficulties in defining something such as this. I am glad to have on record his reassurance that this point is covered elsewhere in the Bill. I should prefer to see it on the face of the Bill, but I beg...

My Lords, Amendment 87 is designed to ensure that technical obligations are not imposed on relevant subscribers without an appreciation of the impact that they will have on other users. The word "user" is deliberately chosen in this amendment, as in many cases there may be more than one user...

My Lords, Amendment 87 is designed to ensure that technical obligations are not imposed on relevant subscribers without an appreciation of the impact that they will have on other users. The word "user" is deliberately chosen in this amendment, as in many cases there may be more than one user...

78: Clause 11, page 13, line 39, at beginning insert "If the Secretary of State believes necessary, having regard to the progress reports under section 124E,"

78: Clause 11, page 13, line 39, at beginning insert "If the Secretary of State believes necessary, having regard to the progress reports under section 124E,"

One amendment accepted in the past quarter of an hour is a cause for happiness and I must not complain if the Minister does not accept this amendment, but should regard my glass as half full. I beg leave to withdraw the amendment. Amendment 78 withdrawn. Amendment 79 Moved by

One amendment accepted in the past quarter of an hour is a cause for happiness and I must not complain if the Minister does not accept this amendment, but should regard my glass as half full. I beg leave to withdraw the amendment. Amendment 78 withdrawn. Amendment 79 Moved by

My Lords, I thank the Minister for Amendment 67, which meets a concern raised in Committee that to continue with interim reports ad infinitum would serve no purpose. However, I would welcome clarification from him on how long it is expected to take for the notification letters and infringement lists...

My Lords, I thank the Minister for Amendment 67, which meets a concern raised in Committee that to continue with interim reports ad infinitum would serve no purpose. However, I would welcome clarification from him on how long it is expected to take for the notification letters and infringement lists...

My Lords, my noble friend’s and my amendments in this group suggest other measures that could usefully be included in progress reports to assess the success or failure of the procedures that we have just debated. Amendments 68 and 69 focus on legitimate access to copyright material. During these debates,...

My Lords, my noble friend’s and my amendments in this group suggest other measures that could usefully be included in progress reports to assess the success or failure of the procedures that we have just debated. Amendments 68 and 69 focus on legitimate access to copyright material. During these debates,...

74: Clause 10, page 13, line 12, at end insert "for the purpose of preventing or reducing infringement of copyright by means of the internet"

74: Clause 10, page 13, line 12, at end insert "for the purpose of preventing or reducing infringement of copyright by means of the internet"

My Lords, this amendment ties the technical obligation order more closely to the stated purpose of the notification letter and infringement list process set out in Clauses 4 to 9. Although the Minister has assured us that technical obligations are to be used as a backstop power in the event...

My Lords, this amendment ties the technical obligation order more closely to the stated purpose of the notification letter and infringement list process set out in Clauses 4 to 9. Although the Minister has assured us that technical obligations are to be used as a backstop power in the event...

I thank the Minister. Amendment 74 agreed. Amendment 75 Moved by

I thank the Minister. Amendment 74 agreed. Amendment 75 Moved by

My Lords, there are a number of instances where the subscriber may well not be the infringer. For example, in the hotel industry, the hotel is a subscriber to an internet service. What happens if a number of different guests use the service to infringe copyright? The hotel will presumably...

My Lords, there are a number of instances where the subscriber may well not be the infringer. For example, in the hotel industry, the hotel is a subscriber to an internet service. What happens if a number of different guests use the service to infringe copyright? The hotel will presumably...