My Lords, I have listened carefully to the arguments, particularly those in favour of the noble Baroness’s Amendment 55, the creating offence, which seeks to replace the “reasonable excuse” defence with the creating offence, with a targeted defence for red-team software testing and reasonable political satire. We share the noble...

My Lords, I have listened carefully to the arguments, particularly those in favour of the noble Baroness’s Amendment 55, the creating offence, which seeks to replace the “reasonable excuse” defence with the creating offence, with a targeted defence for red-team software testing and reasonable political satire. We share the noble...

Lords consideration of Commons amendments. Commons amendments 1 to 31 agreed to. Commons amendment 32 disagreed to and amendments 32B and 32C to the words so restored to the Bill agreed to on division (200 to 183). Commons amendment 33 agreed to. Commons amendment 34 agreed to and amendments 34B and 34C instead of the words so left out of the bill agreed to. Commons amendments 35 to 42 agreed to. Commons amendment 43 agreed to and amendment 43B instead of the words so left out of the bill agreed to on division (289 to 168). Commons amendments 44 to 46, 47, and 48 agreed to. Commons amendment 49 agreed to and amendment 49B instead of the words so left out of the Bill agreed to on division (272 to 125). Commons amendments 50 and 51 agreed to. Commons amendment 52 disagreed to and amendments 52B and 52C to the words so restored to the Bill agreed to on division (164 to 152). Commons amendments 53 and 54 agreed to. Commons amendment 55 disagreed to and amendments 55D and 55E in lieu agreed to. Amendment 56B (to amendment 56) agreed to. Commons amendment 56, as amended, agreed to. Commons amendments 57 to 79 agreed to. Bill returned to the Commons with amendments.

Lords consideration of Commons amendments. Commons amendments 1 to 31 agreed to. Commons amendment 32 disagreed to and amendments 32B and 32C to the words so restored to the Bill agreed to on division (200 to 183). Commons amendment 33 agreed to. Commons amendment 34 agreed to and amendments 34B...

Moved by

Lord Ponsonby of Shulbrede

Moved by

Lord Ponsonby of Shulbrede

My Lords, with the leave of the House, I will also speak to Amendments 54 to 74 and 79.

We all agree that tackling the abuse of intimate image deepfakes is incredibly important. I am delighted that these provisions are returning to this House, having been strengthened in the other place,...

My Lords, with the leave of the House, I will also speak to Amendments 54 to 74 and 79.

We all agree that tackling the abuse of intimate image deepfakes is incredibly important. I am delighted that these provisions are returning to this House, having been strengthened in the other place,...

Statement on legislative consent. Lords third reading. Amendment 1 agreed to. Amendments 3 and 4 (to amendment 2) agreed to. Amendment 5 (to amendment 2) agreed to on division (318 to 130). Amendment 6 (to amendment 2) agreed to on division (302 to 132). Amendment 7 (to amendment 2) agreed to. Amendment 2, as amended, agreed to. Amendment 8 agreed to. Amendment 10 (to amendment 9) agreed to. Amendment 9, as amended, agreed to. Privilege amendment agreed to. Bill passed and sent to the Commons.

Statement on legislative consent. Lords third reading. Amendment 1 agreed to. Amendments 3 and 4 (to amendment 2) agreed to. Amendment 5 (to amendment 2) agreed to on division (318 to 130). Amendment 6 (to amendment 2) agreed to on division (302 to 132). Amendment 7 (to amendment 2) agreed...

My Lords, this has been both a wide-ranging debate and a specific debate on the noble Baroness’s three amendments. I will deal first with the solicitation point. We have heard the strength of feeling, and the Government will not oppose the noble Baroness’s Amendments 3, 4, 7 and 10. As...

My Lords, this has been both a wide-ranging debate and a specific debate on the noble Baroness’s three amendments. I will deal first with the solicitation point. We have heard the strength of feeling, and the Government will not oppose the noble Baroness’s Amendments 3, 4, 7 and 10. As...

Moved by

Lord Ponsonby of Shulbrede

2: After Clause 139, insert the following new Clause—

“Creating purported intimate image of adult

(1) The Sexual Offences Act 2003 is amended in accordance with subsections (2) and (3).

(2) After section 66D insert—

“66E Creating purported intimate image of adult

(1) A person (A) commits an offence if—

(a) A...

Moved by

Lord Ponsonby of Shulbrede

2: After Clause 139, insert the following new Clause—

“Creating purported intimate image of adult

(1) The Sexual Offences Act 2003 is amended in accordance with subsections (2) and (3).

(2) After section 66D insert—

“66E Creating purported intimate image of adult

(1) A person (A) commits an offence if—

(a) A...

My Lords, I am grateful for the opportunity to continue this debate on the intimate image deepfakes within the context of this legislation. We have heard the concerns raised by Members of this House and, as I committed to on Report, I am pleased to move a government amendment that...

My Lords, I am grateful for the opportunity to continue this debate on the intimate image deepfakes within the context of this legislation. We have heard the concerns raised by Members of this House and, as I committed to on Report, I am pleased to move a government amendment that...

The noble and learned Baroness makes a fair point. In practice, this offence is very likely to be charged with the threat to share and other offences, which are of course imprisonable in their own right. As I said, there is no limitation to the number of offences that can...

The noble and learned Baroness makes a fair point. In practice, this offence is very likely to be charged with the threat to share and other offences, which are of course imprisonable in their own right. As I said, there is no limitation to the number of offences that can...

My Lords, in a sense, this will be tested in the courts. If the woman knows that the images have been created, the threat is

there; that is what she is worried about. Of course, that is a separate offence, as I have already said. On the offence where there...

My Lords, in a sense, this will be tested in the courts. If the woman knows that the images have been created, the threat is

there; that is what she is worried about. Of course, that is a separate offence, as I have already said. On the offence where there...

Moved by

Lord Ponsonby of Shulbrede

8: Clause 142, page 174, line 22, at end insert—

“(c) section (Creating purported intimate image of adult) (creating purported intimate image of adult) extends to England and Wales only.”

Member’s explanatory statement

This amendment provides that the new Clause “Creating purported intimate image of adult” extends to England...

Moved by

Lord Ponsonby of Shulbrede

8: Clause 142, page 174, line 22, at end insert—

“(c) section (Creating purported intimate image of adult) (creating purported intimate image of adult) extends to England and Wales only.”

Member’s explanatory statement

This amendment provides that the new Clause “Creating purported intimate image of adult” extends to England...

Moved by

Lord Ponsonby of Shulbrede

9: Title, line 18, after “services;” insert “to make provision about the creation of purported intimate images;”

Member’s explanatory statement

This amendment is consequential on the amendment inserting the new Clause “Creating purported intimate image of adult”.

Moved by

Lord Ponsonby of Shulbrede

9: Title, line 18, after “services;” insert “to make provision about the creation of purported intimate images;”

Member’s explanatory statement

This amendment is consequential on the amendment inserting the new Clause “Creating purported intimate image of adult”.

I beg to move.

Amendment 10 (to Amendment 9)

I beg to move.

Amendment 10 (to Amendment 9)

Moved by

Lord Ponsonby of Shulbrede

56A: After Clause 132, insert the following new Clause—

“Creating purported sexual image of adult

(1) The Sexual Offences Act 2003 is amended in accordance with subsections (2) and (3).

(2) After section 66A insert—

“66AA Creating purported sexual image of adult

(1) A person (A) commits an offence if—

(a) A...

Moved by

Lord Ponsonby of Shulbrede

56A: After Clause 132, insert the following new Clause—

“Creating purported sexual image of adult

(1) The Sexual Offences Act 2003 is amended in accordance with subsections (2) and (3).

(2) After section 66A insert—

“66AA Creating purported sexual image of adult

(1) A person (A) commits an offence if—

(a) A...

My Lords, as will become clear, although I am moving Amendment 56A, it is not the Government’s intention to insert these provisions into the Bill.

This is an issue on which there has been great and very important debate. I start by thanking the noble Lady Baroness, Lady Owen of Alderley...

My Lords, as will become clear, although I am moving Amendment 56A, it is not the Government’s intention to insert these provisions into the Bill.

This is an issue on which there has been great and very important debate. I start by thanking the noble Lady Baroness, Lady Owen of Alderley...

My Lords, I thank all noble Lords who have spoken in this debate, including the noble Baronesses, Lady Owen and Lady Gohir. The Government of course share the concerns that have been expressed by noble Lords across the House. That is why we committed in our manifesto to criminalising the...

My Lords, I thank all noble Lords who have spoken in this debate, including the noble Baronesses, Lady Owen and Lady Gohir. The Government of course share the concerns that have been expressed by noble Lords across the House. That is why we committed in our manifesto to criminalising the...

My Lords, the opening amendment in this group is a government amendment that we are withdrawing, so we are setting up the debate. There could be a similar mechanism at Third Reading. I do not know how it will actually be worked out, but there is an undertaking on behalf...

My Lords, the opening amendment in this group is a government amendment that we are withdrawing, so we are setting up the debate. There could be a similar mechanism at Third Reading. I do not know how it will actually be worked out, but there is an undertaking on behalf...

Yes. If the noble Baroness wants to bring back a similar amendment on this issue, that indeed can be debated at Third Reading.

Yes. If the noble Baroness wants to bring back a similar amendment on this issue, that indeed can be debated at Third Reading.

That is certainly the intention of the legislation, but I am aware that it is extremely complex.

That is certainly the intention of the legislation, but I am aware that it is extremely complex.

Yes, I understand the point the noble Baroness makes. but that is also something which we are willing to look at. The noble Baroness’s amendment was on the point at which a woman knows that has been such an intimate image abuse. I would point out to her that there...

Yes, I understand the point the noble Baroness makes. but that is also something which we are willing to look at. The noble Baroness’s amendment was on the point at which a woman knows that has been such an intimate image abuse. I would point out to her that there...