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My Lords, I thank the noble Lord for that reply, although there is more than a whiff of hypocrisy about it. After all, I and many others on all sides of the House have argued that it should not be a matter of price. We have urged the British consumer to buy British bacon because of the higher welfare standards that are applied in this country. Will the noble Lord also take into account the presence in Dutch bacon of a deadly form of MRSA, ST398, which can cause skin infection, heart trouble and pneumonia? Is he not putting people in this country at risk, particularly as the strain has passed from animals to humans? Indeed, when Dutch farmers go into hospital, they go into isolation. Why is he putting the British consumer and those who buy bacon in this House at risk in this way?
My Lords, I thank the noble Lord for that reply, although there is more than a whiff of hypocrisy about it. After all, I and many others on all sides of the House have argued that it should not be a matter of price. We have urged the British consumer to buy British bacon because of the higher welfare standards that are applied in this country. Will the noble Lord also take into account the presence in Dutch bacon of a deadly form of MRSA, ST398, which can cause skin infection, heart trouble and pneumonia? Is he not putting people in this country at risk, particularly as the strain has passed from animals to humans? Indeed, when Dutch farmers go into hospital, they go into isolation. Why is he putting the British consumer and those who buy bacon in this House at risk in this way?
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Lord Hoyle
(Labour)
Oral questions - 1st Supplementary
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13 May 2009
My Lords, the noble Lord’s first comment was to accuse me of hypocrisy, which I find slightly strange. The question is one of price. It is our job to offer value for money to our customers in the River Restaurant. The market is price-sensitive and we charge considerably less than the House of Commons, which serves British bacon. Ours is about half the price. Bearing in mind that the staff are some of the lower paid in the Palace of Westminster, I think that that is right. It is fine for people such as the noble Lord and, indeed, me to buy British bacon for ourselves, but when we are dealing with other people we have to offer value for money. As far as MRSA is concerned, I read the article in, I think, the Daily Express a couple of weeks ago. I do not think that it has been followed up by anybody else, so I do not know whether it is true or not. If it were true, it would be a matter for the Ministry of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food and not for us to deal with.
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Catering; Contamination; House of Lords; Procurement; Prices; MRSA; Netherlands; Pigmeat; Refreshment Department (HL)
Date
13 May 2009
Reference
710 c1035-6
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House of Lords chamber
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asked the Chairman of Committees:Further to his Written Answers on 3 April (WA 198) and 29 April (WA 18), what priority is given to (a) the Public Sector Food Procurement Initiative; (b) farm assurance; (c) animal welfare; and (d) health and nutrition, when purchasing bacon; and whether the policy on...
asked the Chairman of Committees:Further to his Written Answers on 3 April (WA 198) and 29 April (WA 18), what priority is given to (a) the Public Sector Food Procurement Initiative; (b) farm assurance; (c) animal welfare; and (d) health and nutrition, when purchasing bacon; and whether the policy on...
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Lord Hoyle
(Labour)
Answered by
Lord Brabazon of Tara
(Non-affiliated)
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Written questions
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16 July 2008
The Refreshment Department follows House of Lords procurement policy which is based on value for money with due regard to propriety and regularity. Value for money is defined as ““the optimum combination of whole-life cost and quality (or fitness for purpose) to meet the customer's requirement””. The House is responsible for ensuring it complies appropriately with its legal obligations under the European Union and national procurement rules and other international agreements. Consideration is given to objectives of the Public Sector Procurement Initiative which include farm assurance, animal welfare and health and nutrition as part of the tendering process for supplies.
The procurement of bacon is included in the three-year meat supplies framework contract which commenced in September 2006. The policy on purchasing bacon has been reviewed but no change has been made as Dutch bacon continues to represent better value for money per kilo than English bacon. Since January, Dutch bacon has increased in price by 18.4 per cent from £3.92 to £4.64 per kilo and English bacon has increased by 15.8 per cent from £6.33 to £7.33 per kilo.
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House of Lords; Procurement; Prices; Netherlands; Pigmeat; Refreshment Department (HL)
Date
16 July 2008
Reference
4826; 703 c168-9WA
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House of Lords
asked the Chairman of Committees:Further to his Written Answer of 22 April (WA 284), what price is paid by the House of Lords Refreshment Department for English back bacon; what price is paid for its Dutch equivalent; and what is the price of a bacon sandwich, or other comparable bacon...
asked the Chairman of Committees:Further to his Written Answer of 22 April (WA 284), what price is paid by the House of Lords Refreshment Department for English back bacon; what price is paid for its Dutch equivalent; and what is the price of a bacon sandwich, or other comparable bacon...
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Lord Hoyle
(Labour)
Answered by
Lord Brabazon of Tara
(Non-affiliated)
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Written questions
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Answered
Answered on
29 April 2008
The price of Dutch rindless green back bacon is £4.35 per kilo and English rindless back bacon is £7.33 per kilo. The price of a bacon sandwich served in the River Restaurant is £1.50. The other outlets do not serve an equivalent product.
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House of Lords; Procurement; Prices; Restaurants; Netherlands; Pigmeat; Refreshment Department (HL)
Date
29 April 2008
Reference
701 c18WA; 3213
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House of Lords