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The hon. Gentleman makes an important point and I recognise his constituency interest in this area. I do not know whether he responded to the consultation on the marine Bill. The Under-Secretary of State for Environment, Food and Rural Affairs, my hon. Friend the Member for Exeter (Mr. Bradshaw) has been very active in the international arena on some of the issues that the hon. Gentleman is concerned about—notably this week in respect of whaling. There is probably universal support across the House for the ban, and universal condemnation, and certainly disappointment, at the decisions recently in Iceland. The 24 European countries—I think that I am right in saying—internationally issued what is known as a démarche in Iceland. The Icelandic ambassador met my hon. Friend this week for a free and frank exchange of views about the whaling issue. One piece of good news is the announcement by Ireland this week. I am seeing the Irish Agriculture Minister and I will obviously want to congratulate her on her announcement in respect of salmon fishing.
Answered by
David Miliband (Labour)
Answering body
Department for Environment, Food and Rural Affairs
Type
Oral answers to questions
Date
2 November 2006
Reference
451 c444
House
House of Commons
I am sad to say that my geography lessons ended in my third year at secondary school, but I think that the Red sea to which my hon. Friend is referring is metaphorical rather than literal. I assure her not only that there will be consultation with the devolved Administrations but that there is such consultation. We want to make sure that the Bill will harness the strength of the UK at a national level and, through the devolved Administrations, the local expertise that exists.
Answered by
David Miliband (Labour)
Answering body
Department for Environment, Food and Rural Affairs
Type
Oral answers to questions
Date
2 November 2006
Reference
451 c444-5
House
House of Commons
Why has the Secretary of State not been able to answer the question asked by the hon. Member for Sherwood (Paddy Tipping)? We were promised this complex Bill by the Prime Minister in 2004; we were promised it again in a Labour party conference document; the Government promised it again as part of DEFRA’s five-year strategy; and in the 2005 legislative programme we were promised a draft Bill in this Session. Yes, it may be complex, but the climate change Bill will also be complex. Why will we not see the draft marine Bill? When will the Secretary of State promise the House that we will see it? Will it even be in the coming Queen’s Speech?
Asked by
Bill Wiggin (Conservative)
Answering body
Department for Environment, Food and Rural Affairs
Oral questions - Supplementary
Status
Answered
Date
2 November 2006
Reference
451 c445
House
House of Commons
We recently concluded the consultation on the marine Bill and we are considering the responses before taking a decision on the timing of further consultation. The consultation produced widespread support for a marine Bill—more than 1,000 respondents. The Government are committed to putting into practice their 2005 manifesto commitment to introduce a marine Bill in this Parliament.
Answered by
David Miliband (Labour)
Answering body
Department for Environment, Food and Rural Affairs
Type
Oral answers to questions
Date
2 November 2006
Reference
451 c443-4
House
House of Commons
Will my right hon. Friend assure me that when the marine Bill is brought before the House there will have been close collaboration with the devolved Administrations? We cannot have a parting of the Red sea, whereby the seas are expected suddenly to stop when they come to the areas that are the responsibility of the devolved Administrations. The Bill must be implemented across the different areas of the United Kingdom at the same time.
Asked by
Madeleine Moon (Labour)
Answering body
Department for Environment, Food and Rural Affairs
Oral questions - Supplementary
Status
Answered
Date
2 November 2006
Reference
451 c444-5
House
House of Commons
On the manifesto commitment and the consultation, does the Secretary of State accept that this is a complex area and that the best way forward would be to produce a draft Bill in the next Session so that the competing interests and difficulties can be worked through?
Asked by
Paddy Tipping (Labour)
Answering body
Department for Environment, Food and Rural Affairs
Oral questions - 1st Supplementary
Status
Answered
Date
2 November 2006
Reference
451 c444
House
House of Commons
Like others, I am looking forward to the long-anticipated publication of the marine Bill, but what will the Government do to protect wildlife beyond the 6 and 12 mile limits—particularly in the case of cetaceans, where international agreements will clearly be required—and, within those limits, to modernise the archaic regulations with regard to sea fisheries committees?
Asked by
Andrew George (Liberal Democrat)
Answering body
Department for Environment, Food and Rural Affairs
Oral questions - Supplementary
Status
Answered
Date
2 November 2006
Reference
451 c444
House
House of Commons
My hon. Friend speaks with considerable expertise in this area, not least because of his membership of the Environment, Food and Rural Affairs Committee. He raises exactly the right point: this is a complex area. The relationship between sea and land planning is obviously part of that, as is the relationship between UK legislation and the devolved Administrations. We are committed to having real interrogation and examination of the proposals. Whether that takes place by means of a draft Bill or through a further round of consultation is something that we should leave open at this stage.
Answered by
David Miliband (Labour)
Answering body
Department for Environment, Food and Rural Affairs
Type
Oral answers to questions
Date
2 November 2006
Reference
451 c444
House
House of Commons
I am sorry that the hon. Gentleman has taken that attitude, because most Members realise that in this complex area—this is the first legislation to have to engage with devolutionary issues—it is important that we get things right. The consultation has received serious responses from a range of organisations. I do not know whether the Conservative party—[Interruption.] The hon. Gentleman says from a sedentary position that we have been thinking about it. We have been not only thinking about it but talking to experts in the field and making sure that we build a durable consensus on what the legislation should contain. I make no apology for taking the time to get this right. It is important that the legislation stands the test of time. It is right that we are proceeding carefully, on the basis of consultation, because that means that we will have better legislation. I should have thought that the sensible thing for the Opposition to do was to congratulate us on that.
Answered by
David Miliband (Labour)
Answering body
Department for Environment, Food and Rural Affairs
Type
Oral answers to questions
Date
2 November 2006
Reference
451 c445
House
House of Commons
My hon. Friend makes an important point. As it happens, I was in Germany two weeks ago, meeting my opposite number, the Environment Minister, and we discussed the centrality of carbon capture and storage. Many Members will have heard that China is opening one coal-fired power station every week; it is perhaps less well known that the United States is opening a coal-fired power station every six weeks. Whether we are talking about the most advanced and industrialised country or a newly industrialising country, the issue of how we capture the carbon from coal-fired power generation is critical. That may require some amendments to the London convention, and that is certainly something that we are broaching with our European partners.
Answered by
David Miliband (Labour)
Answering body
Department for Environment, Food and Rural Affairs
Type
Oral answers to questions
Date
2 November 2006
Reference
451 c445-6
House
House of Commons
I presume that any marine Bill would have to take into account the London convention and the OSPAR treaty. What progress has been made in discussions with other European countries about the compatibility of carbon capture and storage with those international agreements, because surely the lesson from Monday’s Stern report is that we have to get on with carbon capture and storage?
Asked by
Bob Blizzard (Labour)
Answering body
Department for Environment, Food and Rural Affairs
Oral questions - Supplementary
Status
Answered
Date
2 November 2006
Reference
451 c445-6
House
House of Commons

moved Amendment No. 2: Page 6, line 20, at end insert ““; or ( ) the Scotland Act 1998 (c. 46)”” The noble Lord said: My Lords, Amendment No. 2 proposes that the Scotland Act be added to Clause 8, to join the Bill and the Human Rights Act as...

Member
Lord Goodhart (Liberal Democrat)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
2 November 2006
Reference
686 c408-9
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I am disappointed with the answer from the Minister. Of course, I recognise that in law this Parliament is sovereign and that the Scotland Act is a reserved matter and can be changed by this Parliament. Nor am I suggesting that it is necessary for changes to the...

Member
Lord Goodhart (Liberal Democrat)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
2 November 2006
Reference
686 c411
House
House of Lords

My Lords, my noble friend Lord Bassam outlined the workings of the Human Rights Act on Report, so I do not propose to reiterate that which noble Lords who have already spoken know as well as I do, if not better. I am replying now because I have been engaged...

Member
Baroness Ashton of Upholland (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
2 November 2006
Reference
686 c413-5
House
House of Lords

moved Amendment No. 3: Page 8, line 6, at end insert ““, and ( ) a statement that in his view the provisions of the order are compatible with the Convention rights (as defined in the Human Rights Act 1998 (c. 42))”” The noble Lord said: My Lords, Amendments Nos....

Member
Lord Goodhart (Liberal Democrat)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
2 November 2006
Reference
686 c411-3
House
House of Lords

My Lords, we support the amendments of the noble Lord, Lord Goodhart, for the reasons that he has given.

Member
Lord Kingsland (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
2 November 2006
Reference
686 c413
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I support Amendment No. 5. The principles of better regulation—proportionality, accountability, consistency and transparency—are well targeted in terms of broad policy development. I apologise for not being here for the Committee stage of the Bill when I might have understood this better, but as I understand it, it...

Member
Baroness Howarth of Breckland (Crossbench)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
2 November 2006
Reference
686 c418
House
House of Lords

My Lords, before I reply to the substance of the amendments, I should like to thank my noble friend Lady Young for writing to me between the stages of the Bill and setting out very clearly the rationale behind her amendments. I am very grateful to my noble friend for...

Member
Lord Bassam of Brighton (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
2 November 2006
Reference
686 c418-22
House
House of Lords

moved Amendment No. 5: Page 12, line 29, leave out ““the exercise of”” and insert ““determining any general policy or principles by reference to which the person exercises”” The noble Baroness said: My Lords, this amendment is grouped with Amendments Nos. 6 to 10. There are two issues here, and...

Member
Baroness Young of Old Scone (Non-affiliated)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
2 November 2006
Reference
686 c415-8
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I support the amendments. I raised similar points in Committee. For the reasons the noble Baroness has given, I was conscious of the regulators’ concern about the possibility of the challenge of litigation in pursuing particular functions—for example, when they are investigating an offence. That might cause considerable...

Member
Lord Norton of Louth (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
2 November 2006
Reference
686 c418
House
House of Lords