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Draft SI on Children Act 2004 Information Database (England). Motion to approve. Objection taken. Deferred division on motion to approve agreed to by 277 votes to 186.

Type
Legislative formal proceedings
Date
25 July 2007
Reference
463 c1025-30
House
House of Commons

Draft SI on Children Act 2004 Information Database (England). Motion to approve. Objection taken. Division deferred to 25 July. (Agreed to by 277 votes to 186).

Type
Legislative formal proceedings
Date
24 July 2007
Reference
463 c804
House
House of Commons

Draft SI on Children Act 2004 Information Database (England). Considered by Delegated Legislation Committee. Minutes of proceedings at UP 7 2006-07.

Type
Debates on delegated legislation; Delegated Legislation Committee proceedings
Date
23 July 2007
Reference
13th DLC
House
House of Commons

My Lords, a couple of years ago, I was talking to a lady who had been adopted. One day, as an adult, she rang the hospital where she was born and asked what time of day her mother gave birth to her. She was told that she could not have...

Member
Baroness Barker (Liberal Democrat)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
18 July 2007
Reference
694 c327-9
House
House of Lords

My Lords, the Minister demonstrated his recognition of the almost instinctive, gut anxieties felt at the creation of what will be a very broad, indeed almost universal, database for all children up to age 18 when he said, ““All use will be monitored by government experts in information technology””, or...

Member
Lord Mayhew of Twysden (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
18 July 2007
Reference
694 c329
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I too declare my interest as a member of the Merits Committee. Indeed, for this inquiry—hearing the evidence and preparing the report—I was in the chair because our proper chairman, the noble Lord, Lord Filkin, had very honourably decided not to take part in the committee’s deliberations, because...

Member
Lord Armstrong of Ilminster (Crossbench)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
18 July 2007
Reference
694 c325-6
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I too must declare an interest as a member of the Merits Committee. I very strongly endorse what the noble Lord, Lord Armstrong, said, and what the noble Baroness, Lady Walmsley, said earlier about the reaction of the Merits Committee to this scheme. It was called ““unenthusiastic”” or...

Member
Lord Jopling (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
18 July 2007
Reference
694 c326-7
House
House of Lords

rose to move, That the draft regulations laid before the House on 4 July be approved. The noble Lord said: My Lords, these regulations make provision in respect of the establishment and operation of a database, ContactPoint, under Section 12 of the Children Act 2004. The regulations place a requirement...

Member
Lord Adonis (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
18 July 2007
Reference
694 c311-3
House
House of Lords

My Lords, the £88 million is only a gain if the figure of £41 million is accurate, and the noble Earl has raised severe concerns that those are perhaps very optimistic figures for both the set-up and the annual running costs. You only have a gain if the figures for...

Member
Baroness Walmsley (Liberal Democrat)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
18 July 2007
Reference
694 c335
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I am grateful to all noble Lords who have spoken. I have been asked a huge number of questions and I cannot possibly answer all of them. However, I will write to noble Lords with responses to questions that I am not able to answer now. Perhaps I...

Member
Lord Adonis (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
18 July 2007
Reference
694 c331-5
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I appreciate the contribution of all noble Lords, who with the exception of the noble Lord, Lord Tunnicliffe, have all expressed great anxiety. I especially thank noble Lords from the Merits Committee, who I understand are nominated for an award at tonight’s House Magazine ceremony; I wish them...

Member
Baroness Morris of Bolton (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
18 July 2007
Reference
694 c336-7
House
House of Lords

My Lords, that is not the case. Even if the running cost figure is higher than £41 million, that does not of itself undermine the £88 million saving. Page 17 of the committee’s report, which prints the relevant memorandum, identifies the practitioner groups whose time will be saved by the...

Member
Lord Adonis (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
18 July 2007
Reference
694 c335-6
House
House of Lords

rose to move, as an amendment to the Motion in the name of Lord Adonis, at end to insert ““but this House regrets that the cost is likely to be disproportionate to the benefit and could have been more effectively and safely spent on professional staff””. The noble Baroness said:...

Member
Baroness Walmsley (Liberal Democrat)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
18 July 2007
Reference
694 c338
House
House of Lords

My Lords, before addressing the substance of the amendment moved by the noble Baroness, Lady Morris, and referring to my amendment, I make it plain that those on these Benches, in this House and another place, are at one with the Government and the Official Opposition in wanting a strong...

Member
Baroness Walmsley (Liberal Democrat)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
18 July 2007
Reference
694 c318-22
House
House of Lords

Yes, my Lords; that will be the case. The issues of cost and universality were raised in the Motion moved by the noble Baroness, Lady Walmsley. Why should ContactPoint hold records for every child? First, a universal system has no stigma attached; since every child is included, no judgment will...

Member
Lord Adonis (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
18 July 2007
Reference
694 c314-5
House
House of Lords

rose to move, as an amendment to the above Motion, at end to insert ““but this House regrets that adequate safeguards are not in place to ensure the protection of the information collected””. The noble Baroness said: My Lords, I thank the Minister for his thorough explanation of the regulations....

Member
Baroness Morris of Bolton (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
18 July 2007
Reference
694 c315-8
House
House of Lords

My Lords, before the noble Lord leaves that subject, can he give an assurance that those who must have access to the system in order to maintain it—there will be technical inputs in that respect—will be governed by exactly the same rules that he has adduced?

Member
Lord Brooke of Sutton Mandeville (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
18 July 2007
Reference
694 c313
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I should declare an interest as a member of the advisory board of the Information Systems Security Association. We have here a database which is supposed to provide proactive protection purporting to save time and therefore money and so on, and yet we have very sparse data on...

Member
Earl of Erroll (Crossbench)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
18 July 2007
Reference
694 c329-31
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I rise somewhat timorously to create something of an innovation this afternoon—a Back-Bench contribution in support of government regulations. I want to comment briefly on what is happening in the House in general. I see in this House an increasing interest in secondary legislation, and that is good....

Member
Lord Tunnicliffe (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
18 July 2007
Reference
694 c322-5
House
House of Lords

Draft SI on Children Act 2004 Information Database (England). Lords debate on motion to approve. Amendment disagreed to on division (46 to 79). Second amendment disagreed to on division (38 to 77). Main question agreed to on question.

Lead member
Lord Adonis
Answering member
Baroness Morris of Bolton
Department
Department for Children, Schools and Families
Type
Debates on delegated legislation
Date
18 July 2007
Reference
694 c311-39
House
House of Lords