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To ask Her Majesty's Government what percentage of (a) landholdings, and (b) the area covered by the mapping scheme, had been notified by the Rural Payments Agency to landholders by the end of February.
To ask Her Majesty's Government what percentage of (a) landholdings, and (b) the area covered by the mapping scheme, had been notified by the Rural Payments Agency to landholders by the end of February.
Asked by
Baroness Byford
(Conservative)
Answered by
Lord Davies of Oldham
(Labour)
Type
Written questions
Status
Answered
Answered on
6 April 2010
The Rural Payments Agency has been updating the rural land register and as part of this mapping update project had sent a new set of maps to 102,455 customers by the end of February 2010. This equates to 94.6 per cent of customers and 94.4 per cent of the area registered.
Some 5,767 holdings were treated differently and did not receive initial maps because they were subject to remote sensing or a physical inspection for the 2009 single payment scheme. They will receive their updated maps after the end of February once all inspection findings have been taken into account.
Subjects
Agriculture; Land; Farms; Maps; Subsidies; Rural Payments Agency
Date
6 April 2010
Reference
3009; 718 c377WA
House
House of Lords
To ask Her Majesty's Government how many farmers have had their landholding reduced after having been sent a final map by the Rural Payments Agency.
To ask Her Majesty's Government how many farmers have had their landholding reduced after having been sent a final map by the Rural Payments Agency.
Asked by
Baroness Byford
(Conservative)
Answered by
Lord Davies of Oldham
(Labour)
Type
Written questions
Status
Answered
Answered on
6 April 2010
The Rural Payments Agency (RPA) does not record information on the number of farmers who have had their landholding reduced or increased after having been sent a final map in a form that is readily accessible.
There are reasons why landholdings may be reduced following receipt of final maps. These include findings from inspections and changes the farmer asks to be made.
Subjects
Agriculture; Land; Farms; Maps; Subsidies; Rural Payments Agency
Date
6 April 2010
Reference
3008; 718 c376WA
House
House of Lords
To ask Her Majesty's Government what steps are taken, when the Rural Payments Agency reduces a farmer's landholding, having sent him a final map, to compare the new map with the old map.
To ask Her Majesty's Government what steps are taken, when the Rural Payments Agency reduces a farmer's landholding, having sent him a final map, to compare the new map with the old map.
Asked by
Baroness Byford
(Conservative)
Answered by
Lord Davies of Oldham
(Labour)
Type
Written questions
Status
Answered
Answered on
29 March 2010
The Rural Land Register has been using base data from Ordnance Survey 2001 Mastermap. The Rural Payments Agency has been updating this with the 2008 version and using this information, along with aerial photography, to identify changes to land and features ineligible for the single payment scheme.
The maps sent to farmers show field parcel sizes so farmers can compare the new map information with the old maps they held previously and can see any increase or decrease in field size.
Subjects
Agriculture; Land; Farms; Maps; Subsidies; Rural Payments Agency
Date
29 March 2010
Reference
3007; 718 c333WA
House
House of Lords
To ask Her Majesty's Government how many original maps were submitted in each month for the Rural Payments Agency's (RPA) remapping exercise; how many maps have been confirmed by the RPA in each month; how many maps have been amended; how many have been returned in each month; and how...
To ask Her Majesty's Government how many original maps were submitted in each month for the Rural Payments Agency's (RPA) remapping exercise; how many maps have been confirmed by the RPA in each month; how many maps have been amended; how many have been returned in each month; and how...
Asked by
Lord Taylor of Holbeach
(Conservative)
Answered by
Lord Davies of Oldham
(Labour)
Type
Written questions
Status
Answered
Answered on
29 March 2010
The number of maps that the Rural Payments Agency (RPA) have confirmed, amended, returned and those still outstanding are shown in the table below.
"* The number of maps accepted by customers includes customers who did not respond after several reminders and were therefore deemed to have accepted by default."
| Week Ending | 4/9/2009 | 2110/2009 | 30/10/2009 | 27/11/2009 | 18112/2009 | 29/1/2010 | 26/2/2010 | 1913/2010 |
| Original Maps Sent from RPA | 49,512 | 71,396 | 103,416 | 107,111 | 107,111 | 107,247 | 107,247 | 107,247 |
| Maps Accepted by Customers | 10,520 | 26,847 | 38,833 | 52,150 | *53,949 | *57,045 | *57,064 | *57,064 |
| Maps Returned to RPA for Amendment | 9,885 | 16,814 | 27,567 | 44,360 | 49,011 | 50,183 | 50,183 | 50,183 |
| Customer Responses Outstanding | 29,107 | 27,735 | 37,016 | 10,601 | 4,151 | 19 | 0 | 0 |
| Amended Confirmation Maps Sent | 293 | 293 | 1,397 | 4,627 | 10,254 | 24,208 | 30,362 | 39,850 |
| Outstanding Confirmation Maps still to be Sent | 9,592 | 16,521 | 26,170 | 39,733 | 38,757 | 25,975 | 19,821 | 10,333 |
Subjects
Agriculture; Land; Farms; Maps; Subsidies; Rural Payments Agency
Date
29 March 2010
Reference
2913; 718 c332-3WA
House
House of Lords
No, my Lords, it certainly is not. I am conscious that this exchange will not be as productive as it might have been had our response to the consultation been published by now. We have made commitments to make sure that there is a sustainable business model. I hope when the noble Earl sees our response that he will accept that we have fulfilled those commitments.
No, my Lords, it certainly is not. I am conscious that this exchange will not be as productive as it might have been had our response to the consultation been published by now. We have made commitments to make sure that there is a sustainable business model. I hope when the noble Earl sees our response that he will accept that we have fulfilled those commitments.
Answered by
Lord McKenzie of Luton
(Labour)
Asked by
Earl of Selborne
(Conservative)
Type
Oral answers to questions
My Lords, I thank the Minister for that reply. Clearly, the free availability of Ordnance Survey data is to be welcomed. The great concern is that the Prime Minister has already announced this week that the new arrangements for free data are to start on 1 April—next Thursday—with no funding arrangement to replace them. Is our national mapping organisation at risk?
Subjects
Disclosure of information; Finance; Maps; Ordnance Survey
Date
24 March 2010
Reference
718 c948
Chamber / Committee
House of Lords chamber
House
House of Lords
My Lords, I thank the Minister for that reply. Clearly, the free availability of Ordnance Survey data is to be welcomed. The great concern is that the Prime Minister has already announced this week that the new arrangements for free data are to start on 1 April—next Thursday—with no funding arrangement to replace them. Is our national mapping organisation at risk?
My Lords, I thank the Minister for that reply. Clearly, the free availability of Ordnance Survey data is to be welcomed. The great concern is that the Prime Minister has already announced this week that the new arrangements for free data are to start on 1 April—next Thursday—with no funding arrangement to replace them. Is our national mapping organisation at risk?
Asked by
Earl of Selborne
(Conservative)
Oral questions - 1st Supplementary
Status
Answered
Answered on
24 March 2010
No, my Lords, it certainly is not. I am conscious that this exchange will not be as productive as it might have been had our response to the consultation been published by now. We have made commitments to make sure that there is a sustainable business model. I hope when the noble Earl sees our response that he will accept that we have fulfilled those commitments.
Subjects
Disclosure of information; Finance; Maps; Ordnance Survey
Date
24 March 2010
Reference
718 c948
Chamber / Committee
House of Lords chamber
House
House of Lords
Do the Government consider Ordnance Survey to be primarily a public service or primarily an organisation intended to generate profits?
Do the Government consider Ordnance Survey to be primarily a public service or primarily an organisation intended to generate profits?
Asked by
Lord Inglewood
(Conservative)
Oral questions - Supplementary
Status
Answered
Answered on
24 March 2010
My Lords, Ordnance Survey’s mission statement has been the subject of debate for some time. Obviously we see it as a key part of public service.
Subjects
Disclosure of information; Finance; Maps; Ordnance Survey
Date
24 March 2010
Reference
718 c950
Chamber / Committee
House of Lords chamber
House
House of Lords
My Lords, I explained that we are going to publish our response in the next few days—by the end of March—and the actions proposed will follow that, not precede it.
My Lords, I explained that we are going to publish our response in the next few days—by the end of March—and the actions proposed will follow that, not precede it.
Answered by
Lord McKenzie of Luton
(Labour)
Asked by
Lord Skelmersdale
(Conservative)
Type
Oral answers to questions
My Lords, I must declare an interest as a former Minister for Ordnance Survey. Can the Minister give me any other recent example where a government response to consultation had not been published before an activity was initiated?
Subjects
Disclosure of information; Finance; Maps; Ordnance Survey
Date
24 March 2010
Reference
718 c951
Chamber / Committee
House of Lords chamber
House
House of Lords
Yes, my Lords, OS will continue to provide high-quality paper maps for its many customers.
Yes, my Lords, OS will continue to provide high-quality paper maps for its many customers.
Answered by
Lord McKenzie of Luton
(Labour)
Asked by
Baroness Maddock
(Liberal Democrat)
Type
Oral answers to questions
My Lords, I never go anywhere without an Ordnance Survey map, even though I have sat-nav in the car. Some of us have experienced being sent down one-way streets the wrong way by sat-nav. I have looked at the consultation. In the changes anticipated, will I be guaranteed a paper OS map into the foreseeable future?
Subjects
Disclosure of information; Finance; Maps; Ordnance Survey
Date
24 March 2010
Reference
718 c949
Chamber / Committee
House of Lords chamber
House
House of Lords
My Lords, many of us who are keen hill walkers use Ordnance Survey maps all the time. Will my noble friend confirm that, although walkers’ maps may not be the most profitable part of Ordnance Survey’s output, they are absolutely essential and that nothing in the business model will damage our chance of continuing to use these maps?
My Lords, many of us who are keen hill walkers use Ordnance Survey maps all the time. Will my noble friend confirm that, although walkers’ maps may not be the most profitable part of Ordnance Survey’s output, they are absolutely essential and that nothing in the business model will damage our chance of continuing to use these maps?
Asked by
Lord Dubs
(Labour)
Oral questions - Supplementary
Status
Answered
Answered on
24 March 2010
My Lords, I must not pre-empt our response to the consultation but I believe that what my noble friend says will be the case.
Subjects
Disclosure of information; Finance; Maps; Ordnance Survey
Date
24 March 2010
Reference
718 c949-50
Chamber / Committee
House of Lords chamber
House
House of Lords
My Lords, the consultation started on 23 December; it ran for a 12-week period and finished on 17 March. Until we have gone through the consultation process, we cannot be expected to respond to it. This whole proposal came from the Prime Minister’s assertions about smarter government and making more data freely available to help public services to be more accountable and more transparent. However, we have to conclude the consultation before we can respond to it.
My Lords, the consultation started on 23 December; it ran for a 12-week period and finished on 17 March. Until we have gone through the consultation process, we cannot be expected to respond to it. This whole proposal came from the Prime Minister’s assertions about smarter government and making more data freely available to help public services to be more accountable and more transparent. However, we have to conclude the consultation before we can respond to it.
Answered by
Lord McKenzie of Luton
(Labour)
Asked by
Lord Tebbit
(Conservative)
Type
Oral answers to questions
My Lords, who is to blame for the fact that the Government have not yet published the results of the consultation? Is it the people who were consulted or those who were doing the consulting?
Subjects
Disclosure of information; Finance; Maps; Ordnance Survey
Date
24 March 2010
Reference
718 c950
Chamber / Committee
House of Lords chamber
House
House of Lords
My Lords, the issue is the sustainability of its business model. Obviously, to the extent to which information is going to be made available freely, there will need to be changes to the existing business model. That is what our response to the consultation will show. I certainly agree with the noble and learned Lord that we have a world-class institution here.
Apart from the innate pleasure of answering Questions in your Lordships’ House, sometimes you get the added pleasure of some really interesting information in the briefing. I can say that the OS database has mapped more than 440 million different topographic features, some 544,000 kilometres of motorable road and some 750,000 road names, the three most frequent of which are High Street, Station Road and Church Lane.
My Lords, the issue is the sustainability of its business model. Obviously, to the extent to which information is going to be made available freely, there will need to be changes to the existing business model. That is what our response to the consultation will show. I certainly agree with the noble and learned Lord that we have a world-class institution here.
Apart from the innate pleasure of answering Questions in your Lordships’ House, sometimes you get the added pleasure of some really interesting information in the briefing. I can say that the OS database has mapped more than 440 million different topographic features, some 544,000 kilometres of motorable road and some 750,000 road names, the three most frequent of which are High Street, Station Road and Church Lane.
Answered by
Lord McKenzie of Luton
(Labour)
Asked by
Lord Howe of Aberavon
(Conservative)
Type
Oral answers to questions
My Lords, it is well known that the Ordnance Survey is a world-class national mapping organisation and national treasure. It has so far been able to maintain its financial independence by having the freedom to license and to sell for itself the data it has available. With the data being freely distributed, as has just been announced, will it retain the vitality of being a self-financing organisation?
Subjects
Disclosure of information; Finance; Maps; Ordnance Survey
Date
24 March 2010
Reference
718 c949
Chamber / Committee
House of Lords chamber
House
House of Lords
My Lords, does this apply also to the Hydrographic Office and the issuing of nautical charts for our navies and seamen around the British coast?
My Lords, does this apply also to the Hydrographic Office and the issuing of nautical charts for our navies and seamen around the British coast?
Asked by
Lord Glentoran
(Conservative)
Oral questions - Supplementary
Status
Answered
Answered on
24 March 2010
My Lords, I may need to write to the noble Lord to give him more detail on that. If those charts are produced by Ordnance Survey, the changes we will make will fall within the ambit of the review.
Subjects
Disclosure of information; Finance; Maps; Ordnance Survey
Date
24 March 2010
Reference
718 c951
Chamber / Committee
House of Lords chamber
House
House of Lords
My Lords, I cannot confirm that figure. I have tried to stress that it is difficult to answer this Question before we have put our response into the public domain. However, I reassert that we have made a commitment to ensure that the business model is sustainable, and obviously that will mean some form of funding to support the fact that some of the income streams will not be there in the future.
My Lords, I cannot confirm that figure. I have tried to stress that it is difficult to answer this Question before we have put our response into the public domain. However, I reassert that we have made a commitment to ensure that the business model is sustainable, and obviously that will mean some form of funding to support the fact that some of the income streams will not be there in the future.
Answered by
Lord McKenzie of Luton
(Labour)
Asked by
Earl Cathcart
(Conservative)
Type
Oral answers to questions
My Lords, the consultation report said that to cover the cost of providing the products for free and maintain the very high standard of those products, an additional government grant of up to £40 million was needed. As this freebie starts next week, the Minister must have an idea, so can he confirm that £40 million will be provided? If not, how much will be?
Subjects
Disclosure of information; Finance; Maps; Ordnance Survey
Date
24 March 2010
Reference
718 c950
Chamber / Committee
House of Lords chamber
House
House of Lords
My noble friend as ever comes to my rescue. I agree with what he says.
My noble friend as ever comes to my rescue. I agree with what he says.
Answered by
Lord McKenzie of Luton
(Labour)
Asked by
Lord Tomlinson
(Labour)
Type
Oral answers to questions
Has my noble friend noticed the apparent enthusiasm on the Benches opposite for an extension of public expenditure? Will he join me in hoping that that extension of public expenditure and the enthusiasm for it becomes infectious?
Subjects
Disclosure of information; Finance; Maps; Ordnance Survey
Date
24 March 2010
Reference
718 c951
Chamber / Committee
House of Lords chamber
House
House of Lords
My Lords, the new arrangements come in on 1 April and the comments on the consultation are not published until the end of March. That does not give much time for consideration of how they will be implemented and whether changes can be made.
My Lords, the new arrangements come in on 1 April and the comments on the consultation are not published until the end of March. That does not give much time for consideration of how they will be implemented and whether changes can be made.
Asked by
Viscount Montgomery of Alamein
(Crossbench)
Oral questions - Supplementary
Status
Answered
Answered on
24 March 2010
The noble Viscount makes a good point. We have not just waited for the responses to accumulate with a view to dealing with them at the end of the consultation process; they have been addressed while the consultation has been under way. We are keen to make progress on this because it is very clear from the consultation that there is a real appetite to move in the direction that we are proposing.
Subjects
Disclosure of information; Finance; Maps; Ordnance Survey
Date
24 March 2010
Reference
718 c949
Chamber / Committee
House of Lords chamber
House
House of Lords
My Lords, I must declare an interest as a former Minister for Ordnance Survey. Can the Minister give me any other recent example where a government response to consultation had not been published before an activity was initiated?
My Lords, I must declare an interest as a former Minister for Ordnance Survey. Can the Minister give me any other recent example where a government response to consultation had not been published before an activity was initiated?
Asked by
Lord Skelmersdale
(Conservative)
Oral questions - Supplementary
Status
Answered
Answered on
24 March 2010
My Lords, I explained that we are going to publish our response in the next few days—by the end of March—and the actions proposed will follow that, not precede it.
Subjects
Disclosure of information; Finance; Maps; Ordnance Survey
Date
24 March 2010
Reference
718 c951
Chamber / Committee
House of Lords chamber
House
House of Lords
My Lords, I must not pre-empt our response to the consultation but I believe that what my noble friend says will be the case.
My Lords, I must not pre-empt our response to the consultation but I believe that what my noble friend says will be the case.
Answered by
Lord McKenzie of Luton
(Labour)
Asked by
Lord Dubs
(Labour)
Type
Oral answers to questions
My Lords, many of us who are keen hill walkers use Ordnance Survey maps all the time. Will my noble friend confirm that, although walkers’ maps may not be the most profitable part of Ordnance Survey’s output, they are absolutely essential and that nothing in the business model will damage our chance of continuing to use these maps?
Subjects
Disclosure of information; Finance; Maps; Ordnance Survey
Date
24 March 2010
Reference
718 c949-50
Chamber / Committee
House of Lords chamber
House
House of Lords
The noble Viscount makes a good point. We have not just waited for the responses to accumulate with a view to dealing with them at the end of the consultation process; they have been addressed while the consultation has been under way. We are keen to make progress on this because it is very clear from the consultation that there is a real appetite to move in the direction that we are proposing.
The noble Viscount makes a good point. We have not just waited for the responses to accumulate with a view to dealing with them at the end of the consultation process; they have been addressed while the consultation has been under way. We are keen to make progress on this because it is very clear from the consultation that there is a real appetite to move in the direction that we are proposing.
Answered by
Lord McKenzie of Luton
(Labour)
Asked by
Viscount Montgomery of Alamein
(Crossbench)
Type
Oral answers to questions
My Lords, the new arrangements come in on 1 April and the comments on the consultation are not published until the end of March. That does not give much time for consideration of how they will be implemented and whether changes can be made.
Subjects
Disclosure of information; Finance; Maps; Ordnance Survey
Date
24 March 2010
Reference
718 c949
Chamber / Committee
House of Lords chamber
House
House of Lords
My Lords, I never go anywhere without an Ordnance Survey map, even though I have sat-nav in the car. Some of us have experienced being sent down one-way streets the wrong way by sat-nav. I have looked at the consultation. In the changes anticipated, will I be guaranteed a paper OS map into the foreseeable future?
My Lords, I never go anywhere without an Ordnance Survey map, even though I have sat-nav in the car. Some of us have experienced being sent down one-way streets the wrong way by sat-nav. I have looked at the consultation. In the changes anticipated, will I be guaranteed a paper OS map into the foreseeable future?
Asked by
Baroness Maddock
(Liberal Democrat)
Oral questions - Supplementary
Status
Answered
Answered on
24 March 2010
Yes, my Lords, OS will continue to provide high-quality paper maps for its many customers.
Subjects
Disclosure of information; Finance; Maps; Ordnance Survey
Date
24 March 2010
Reference
718 c949
Chamber / Committee
House of Lords chamber
House
House of Lords