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Laid by
Secretary Eric Pickles
Department
Department for Communities and Local Government
Type
Statutory instruments
Date
6 March 2013
Reference
SI 2013/468
House
House of Lords; House of Commons
Laid by
Secretary Eric Pickles
Department
Department for Communities and Local Government
Type
Statutory instruments
Date
28 February 2013
Reference
SI 2013/408
House
House of Lords; House of Commons

My Lords, the regulations we are debating today are one of the last remaining building blocks needed to implement the rates retention scheme on 1 April this year. We will also cover the Local Government Finance Act 2012 (Consequential Amendments) Order 2013.

Only a little over two years ago, this Government...

Member
Lord Ahmad of Wimbledon (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
7 February 2013
Reference
743 cc96-8GC
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I am sure that those of my constituents in the west end of Newcastle who have been glued to BBC Parliament during the course of these 20 minutes will have been enthralled by the presentation. I congratulate the Minister on taking us through an inherently complex, not to...

Member
Lord Beecham (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
7 February 2013
Reference
743 c98GC
House
House of Lords

My Lords, first, I thank the noble Lord, Lord Beecham, for his support and for the sterling job the noble Lord does in representing the voice of the people of that area.

That said, this is something from my experience in local government. I know that when I served as a...

Member
Lord Ahmad of Wimbledon (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
7 February 2013
Reference
743 cc98-9GC
House
House of Lords

Motion to consider. Agreed to on question.

Lead member
Lord Ahmad of Wimbledon
Answering member
Lord Beecham
Department
Department for Communities and Local Government
Type
Debates on delegated legislation
Date
7 February 2013
Reference
743 cc96-9GC
House
House of Lords

Lords motion to consider. Agreed to on question.

Lead member
Lord Ahmad of Wimbledon
Answering member
Lord Beecham
Department
Department for Communities and Local Government
Type
Debates on delegated legislation
Date
7 February 2013
Reference
743 c99GC
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I particularly thank my noble friend Lord Tope for his final comments. We do not believe that a set review, with a timetable in the Bill, is the right way to go about this. We all accept that there will be huge volatility in the system from now...

Member
Baroness Hanham (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
10 October 2012
Reference
739 cc1041-2
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I thank all noble Lords who have spoken in this short debate. I am sorry but not surprised at the response from the coalition Benches. In particular, in responding the noble Baroness went back to the mantra of saying that the scheme has to run until 2020 to...

Member
Lord McKenzie of Luton (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
10 October 2012
Reference
739 cc1042-3
House
House of Lords

Moved by

Lord Ahmad of Wimbledon

5: Schedule 1, page 20, line 33, at end insert—

“(ba) amounts received by the Secretary of State in the year under regulations under section 99(3) (treatment of surplus or deficit in collection fund) that make provision in relation to non-domestic rates,”

Member
Lord Ahmad of Wimbledon (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
10 October 2012
Reference
739 c1043
House
House of Lords

Before moving the amendment on behalf of my noble friend Lady Hanham, perhaps I may take this opportunity to thank the noble Lord, Lord McKenzie, for his warm words of welcome to the Dispatch Box. The noble Lords, Lord Smith and Lord Tope, talked of their respective experiences in local...

Member
Lord Ahmad of Wimbledon (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
10 October 2012
Reference
739 cc1043-7
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I thank the Minister for his explanation of the amendments, with which I do not believe we have a problem. Perhaps he might just clarify a couple of matters. First, on the change from “paid” to “payable” in several places, I am trying to understand the extent to...

Member
Lord McKenzie of Luton (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
10 October 2012
Reference
739 c1047
House
House of Lords

I thank the noble Lord for his questions. I am sure that he will excuse me if I do not know the exact detail on some of the amendments, but I shall certainly ensure that he is written to in this regard. On “payable” and “paid”, I believe that one...

Member
Lord Ahmad of Wimbledon (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
10 October 2012
Reference
739 c1047
House
House of Lords

I am grateful to the Minister. If he could assure us that we might get that response before Third Reading, it would be really helpful.

Member
Lord McKenzie of Luton (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
10 October 2012
Reference
739 c1047
House
House of Lords

Moved by

Baroness Hanham

6: Schedule 1, page 21, line 16, at end insert—

“(za) payments made by the Secretary of State in the year under regulations under section 99(3) that make provision in relation to non-domestic rates,”

Member
Baroness Hanham (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
10 October 2012
Reference
739 c1048
House
House of Lords

Moved by

Lord McKenzie of Luton

7: Schedule 1, page 21, line 29, at end insert—

“( ) Such use for the purposes of local government in England must be on a basis which reflects the spending needs of local government and the resources available to it.”

Member
Lord McKenzie of Luton (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
10 October 2012
Reference
739 c1048
House
House of Lords

My Lords, this is a partial rerun of an amendment from Committee, because a significant issue remains in our minds, which is lacking in clarity. This is the use of the central share and the principles that will determine how it is to be applied on an ongoing basis. We...

Member
Lord McKenzie of Luton (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
10 October 2012
Reference
739 cc1048-9
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I feel that this amendment is actually extremely important. I draw the Minister’s attention to a report by the Institute for Fiscal Studies, which has confirmed that councils in the north of England are having to cut spending at almost three times the rate of councils in the...

Member
Lord Shipley (Liberal Democrat)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
10 October 2012
Reference
739 c1049
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I thank both noble Lords for their contributions. I appreciate that the use of the central share is of concern and interest, particularly once we get through the next couple of years. Amendment 7 would ensure that the central share money would always be distributed on the basis...

Member
Baroness Hanham (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
10 October 2012
Reference
739 cc1049-1050
House
House of Lords

I am bound to say that I do not feel that we have made any progress on this issue as a result of that response. I am grateful for the support of the noble Lord, Lord Shipley, on the issue. It seems to me to be a core point about...

Member
Lord McKenzie of Luton (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
10 October 2012
Reference
739 c1050
House
House of Lords