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To ask the Secretary of State for Education (1) if he will discuss with the Minister for Women and Equalities the introduction of a provision for parents to opt out of the teaching of same sex marriage to their children;

[137761]

Asked by
Mark Pritchard (Conservative)
Answering body
Education
Type
Written questions
Status
Answered
Date
17 April 2013
Reference
137761; 561 c481W
House
House of Commons

(2) if he will discuss with the Minister for Women and Equalities the introduction of a provision for (a) faith schools and (b) any other schools that so choose to opt out of requirements to teach about same-sex marriage.

[137762]

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Asked by
Mark Pritchard (Conservative)
Answering body
Education
Type
Written questions
Status
Answered
Date
17 April 2013
Reference
137762; 561 c481W
House
House of Commons

My Lords, my noble friend makes an important point about the simultaneous implementation of these provisions in all the realms of which Her Majesty is Queen—and clearly for the right reason, as he gives it. It would not be helpful, nor would it be the policy intent of any of...

Member
Lord Wallace of Tankerness (Liberal Democrat)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
13 March 2013
Reference
744 cc309-311
House
House of Lords

My Lords, as this amendment was on the Marshalled List in Committee I can be brief, because I set out the detailed points then. However, I repeat that I do not make these points in relation to the Marriage (Same Sex Couples) Bill and would deplore any attempt to obstruct...

Member
Lord True (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
13 March 2013
Reference
744 cc267-9
House
House of Lords

Moved by

Lord True

1: After Clause 1, insert the following new Clause—

“Royal marriages: heirs of the body

(1) A marriage is a Royal Marriage for the purposes of establishing the claim of any person to succeed to the Crown as heir to the body if that Marriage is a marriage between a...

Member
Lord True (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
13 March 2013
Reference
744 c267
House
House of Lords

My Lords, my amendment has been grouped so that the first and last stand together. My noble friend has fully explained the circumstances that make the amendment necessary. He has traced the

identification of the monarch from the Act of Settlement through various other Acts to the present. The question...

Member
Lord Elton (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
13 March 2013
Reference
744 cc268-270
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I broadly support my noble friend Lord True in his amendment. Indeed, at an earlier stage of my deliberations about today’s proceedings, I thought of tabling an amendment to do something similar to what he is now proposing. Having read my noble friend’s amendment, however, I thought better...

Member
Lord Trefgarne (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
13 March 2013
Reference
744 cc270-1
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I am afraid that I have not been able to play a part in the earlier consideration of this Bill. However, I looked at proposed new subsection (2) of my noble friend Lord True’s amendment, which says:

“A person is disqualified from succeeding to the Crown as an heir...

Member
Lord Jopling (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
13 March 2013
Reference
744 c271
House
House of Lords

My Lords, this is an interesting discussion but, as the House will know, the Bill has three purposes, all of which are about changing the succession to the Crown. One is to allow women to inherit if they are the eldest; the second is to allow people not to have...

Member
Baroness Hayter of Kentish Town (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
13 March 2013
Reference
744 c271
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I thank my noble friends Lord True and Lord Elton for bringing forward these amendments. As my noble friend Lord True said, he brought forward a very similar amendment in Committee and it is important that he has given us an opportunity to debate these issues again. Following...

Member
Lord Wallace of Tankerness (Liberal Democrat)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
13 March 2013
Reference
744 cc272-3
House
House of Lords

Before my noble and learned friend sits down, perhaps he could clear up one thing in my mind. I certainly support my noble friend but if he were to withdraw at a later stage, I would be minded to continue unless I was satisfied.

My noble and learned friend has again...

Member
Lord Elton (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
13 March 2013
Reference
744 c273
House
House of Lords

Without a lot of thought, I am not sure that I want to embrace that particular analogy. The point I was seeking to make was that if

the transmission of a title of the peerage is not affected by the developments that appear in the legislation, a fortiori nor should...

Member
Lord Wallace of Tankerness (Liberal Democrat)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
13 March 2013
Reference
744 cc273-4
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I thank my noble and learned friend and all those who have contributed to this short debate. I fully accept the comments made on subsection (3) of the new clause proposed by my amendment.

As I said at the outset, I do intend to press this matter, although I...

Member
Lord True (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
13 March 2013
Reference
744 cc274-5
House
House of Lords

Moved by

Lord Berkeley

1A: After Clause 1, insert the following new Clause—

“Succession to the Duchy of Cornwall not to depend on gender

In determining the succession to the Duchy of Cornwall, the gender of a person born after 28 October 2011 does not give that person, or that person’s descendants, precedence over...

Member
Lord Berkeley (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
13 March 2013
Reference
744 c275
House
House of Lords

My Lords, we are deeply indebted to the noble Lord, Lord Berkeley, for raising this important matter again. A valuable discussion took place in Committee, drawing attention to the fact that the Duchy and its properties tend to flourish most conspicuously when they have a Duke in charge of them....

Member
Lord Lexden (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
13 March 2013
Reference
744 c276
House
House of Lords

I support the principle underlying the amendment. It seems to me the logical extension of the principle underlying the Bill itself, but I can see that this might not be the most suitable vehicle for bringing about a reform which I continue to regard as being very desirable in itself....

Member
Lord Lloyd of Berwick (Crossbench)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
13 March 2013
Reference
744 c276
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I, too, broadly support the principle behind the amendment, but I ask my noble and learned friend about a related matter which I raised in Committee but did not get a full and clear answer. Is it in order and open to the sovereign to confer on his...

Member
Lord Trefgarne (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
13 March 2013
Reference
744 c277
House
House of Lords

My Lords, as we said in Committee, the Duchy is about property, business, title and, indeed, money. Although we agree that those are, as my noble friend said, important issues and we would undoubtedly welcome the end of the inequality—the mistreatment, we might say, of women—as regards the Duchy, they...

Member
Baroness Hayter of Kentish Town (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
13 March 2013
Reference
744 c277
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I immediately associate myself with those wishes of full recovery to Her Majesty. I also thank the noble Lord, Lord Berkeley, for raising the issue, which gave rise to a very good debate in Committee. I certainly valued the input from those who contributed, as I have today,...

Member
Lord Wallace of Tankerness (Liberal Democrat)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
13 March 2013
Reference
744 cc277-8
House
House of Lords

I am grateful to the Minister for his reply and to all noble Lords who have taken part in this short debate. It seems to me that there is a precedent for Parliament or the courts to change what is in the original charter. It is quite clear that the...

Member
Lord Berkeley (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
13 March 2013
Reference
744 c278
House
House of Lords