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My Lords, this order provides for the disclosure of information between the telecommunications regulator Ofcom and four other public bodies allowing those bodies to carry out their regulatory duties more effectively, providing greater protection for consumers. The four bodies in question are the Information Commissioner, the Insolvency Service, the Financial...

Member
Lord Gardiner of Kimble (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
12 May 2014
Reference
753 cc419-421GC
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I thank the Minister for his explanation of the intent behind the order. I make it clear from the outset that

we support these changes. Although the authors of the 2003 Act were quite rightly cautious about encouraging the exchange of too much personal information between government agencies,...

Member
Baroness Jones of Whitchurch (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
12 May 2014
Reference
753 cc421-3GC
House
House of Lords

My Lords, the order impacts positively on Ofcom’s ability to disclose information to the four bodies that I outlined and I am extremely grateful to the noble Baroness for the support that she has given to it. We are at one on the fact that we need to tackle this...

Member
Lord Gardiner of Kimble (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
12 May 2014
Reference
753 cc423-4GC
House
House of Lords

Lords motion to consider. Agreed to on question.

Lead member
Lord Gardiner of Kimble
Answering member
Baroness Jones of Whitchurch
Department
Department for Culture, Media and Sport
Type
Debates on delegated legislation
Date
12 May 2014
Reference
753 cc419-424GC
House
House of Lords
Type
Select Committee reports; House of Lords papers; Parliamentary committees
Committee
Select Committee on Communications
Date
21 January 2014
Reference
HL 120 2013-14
House
House of Lords

I beg to move,

That this House has considered nuisance calls.

I thank the Backbench Business Committee for granting time for this important debate. Many Members who would like to have been here for this debate are unable to be with us for various reasons, including constituency commitments, debates in Westminster Hall...

Member
Mike Crockart (Liberal Democrat)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
16 January 2014
Reference
573 cc1057-8
House
House of Commons

I congratulate the hon. Gentleman wholeheartedly on securing this debate and on the campaign that has been running. Does he accept that the fundamental problem that our constituents complain to us about is that there are frequently multiple calls and that calls are often made at night time? I have...

Member
Guy Opperman (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
16 January 2014
Reference
573 c1058
House
House of Commons

I thank the hon. Gentleman for his intervention. My right hon. Friend the Member for Berwick-upon-Tweed (Sir Alan Beith), who is unable to be here, outlined a very worrying set of circumstances to me, which may well have affected the hon. Gentleman’s constituents. In the last week, a large number...

Member
Mike Crockart (Liberal Democrat)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
16 January 2014
Reference
573 c1058
House
House of Commons

I endorse the hon. Gentleman’s comments about the missing three-year-old boy from his constituency, on the border of mine in Edinburgh. Like him, I hope that he is soon found safe and brought back to his home.

Is not one problem nuisance calls that purport to come from outside the UK,...

Member
Mark Lazarowicz (Labour; Co-operative Party)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
16 January 2014
Reference
573 c1059
House
House of Commons

The hon. Gentleman is absolutely right, and there are two issues raised. Of course, the vast majority of calls coming from outside the UK are made on behalf of companies operating within the UK, so they should be covered by the regulators. The difficulty is that there are all sorts...

Member
Mike Crockart (Liberal Democrat)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
16 January 2014
Reference
573 c1059
House
House of Commons

The hon. Gentleman may recall that when BT gave evidence to the all-party group, it said that its complaints and nuisance calls line received some 65,000 calls a month—from memory, I think that was the figure. If so many calls are coming in but so few are going to the...

Member
Mike Weir (Scottish National Party)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
16 January 2014
Reference
573 c1059
House
House of Commons

The hon. Gentleman makes a good point, although I am not sure whether it is just a lack of confidence. Part of it may well be a lack of knowledge and a lack of willingness to commit time to go through the process of making a complaint. However, I was...

Member
Mike Crockart (Liberal Democrat)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
16 January 2014
Reference
573 cc1059-1060
House
House of Commons

On that point about the fear factor, the result is that the telephone is taken out of the use of people who would otherwise regard it as a normal service in their home. It is manifestly clear on any interpretation that such texts and calls are increasing, and that the...

Member
Guy Opperman (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
16 January 2014
Reference
573 c1060
House
House of Commons

Absolutely. That is a good point, and that fear is concentrated among certain groups, such as the elderly, who are at home during the day more, and those who, as StepChange found, are hounded by companies encouraging them to take out payday loans and so on. Just over 26.3 million...

Member
Mike Crockart (Liberal Democrat)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
16 January 2014
Reference
573 cc1060-2
House
House of Commons

The hon. Gentleman is dealing eloquently with the economics of the process. Does he accept the proposition that the likelihood of our constituents taking calls between 9 o’clock at night and 6 o’clock in the morning is very limited? Does he agree that the Government could regulate against night-time calls,...

Member
Guy Opperman (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
16 January 2014
Reference
573 c1062
House
House of Commons

I agree entirely with the hon. Gentleman. I will go on to deal with the Information Commissioner’s Office guidance that covers exactly that problem.

The inquiry heard evidence that the low cost of making those calls means that there is no economic driver to undertake any initial targeting or research. Calls...

Member
Mike Crockart (Liberal Democrat)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
16 January 2014
Reference
573 cc1062-3
House
House of Commons

Does my hon. Friend agree that, if every company is well behaved, we would not need a regulatory system at all? The point of the regulator is to deal with those who are unscrupulous or careless.

Member
Lord Stunell (Liberal Democrat)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
16 January 2014
Reference
573 c1063
House
House of Commons

I agree entirely, and I am glad my hon. Friend used the word “careless”, because carelessness and the ease of making calls without having to think too closely about the regulations cause much of the problem.

The regulations are in place and the guidance is excellent. A document issued by the...

Member
Mike Crockart (Liberal Democrat)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
16 January 2014
Reference
573 cc1063-5
House
House of Commons

I thank you for your guidance, Madam Deputy Speaker. I am heading towards to my last few points, I promise.

The reason for slipping in that recommendation is that when we took evidence from payday lenders I had put them on the spot and asked them whether they

engaged in this sort...

Member
Mike Crockart (Liberal Democrat)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
16 January 2014
Reference
573 cc1065-6
House
House of Commons

Does my hon. Friend agree that if the telephone companies are receiving the revenue from 1 billion nuisance calls a year, there is little incentive for them to throttle that profitable supply of calls?

Member
Lord Stunell (Liberal Democrat)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
16 January 2014
Reference
573 c1067
House
House of Commons