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Motion that this House has considered the reliability of Southeastern train services. Motion lapsed.

Lead member
Clive Efford
Answering member
Claire O'Neill
Department
Department for Transport
Type
Debates
Date
2 March 2016
Reference
606 cc279-299WH
House
House of Commons

I beg to move,

That this House has considered the reliability of Southeastern train services.

It is a pleasure to be here under your chairmanship, Mr Evans, and I welcome the Minister. We had hoped to meet her to discuss the Southeastern situation before this debate, but we are here now and...

Member
Clive Efford (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
2 March 2016
Reference
606 cc279-280WH
House
House of Commons

I congratulate the hon. Gentleman on securing this debate. The Labour party may be divided over its leadership, the Conservative party over Europe, but what unites us all is Southeastern. It is fair to say that its service has deteriorated of late. Does he agree that Southeastern seems to have...

Member
Gareth Johnson (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
2 March 2016
Reference
606 c280WH
House
House of Commons

That is a worry and something the Minister should consider. If that is the case, the Government should take the franchise away now, because if Southeastern is going to look at its bottom line rather than the quality of the service, passengers will continue to suffer. That was a prime...

Member
Clive Efford (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
2 March 2016
Reference
606 cc280-1WH
House
House of Commons

I am sorry that the fracture clinic will prevent me from being here for the entirety of the debate. I thank and congratulate the hon. Gentleman for holding this debate. Many of

my constituents have experienced the same difficulties he has described. While I believe there will be better times...

Member
Huw Merriman (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
2 March 2016
Reference
606 c281WH
House
House of Commons

I wish the hon. Gentleman luck in pursuing his scheme; I have got my own, which I will come to shortly. I have to say, Transport for London cannot be worse than Southeastern. It has had a positive impact when it has taken over other lines in similar circumstances, so...

Member
Clive Efford (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
2 March 2016
Reference
606 cc282-4WH
House
House of Commons

It is a pleasure to be here under your chairmanship, Mr Evans. I pay tribute to the hon. Member for Eltham (Clive Efford) for calling this important debate. I stand here as the representative of two communities—the one that relies on and is tortured by the Tonbridge line, and the...

Member
Tom Tugendhat (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
2 March 2016
Reference
606 c285WH
House
House of Commons

I share my hon. Friend’s concern about Southeastern’s performance. I have travelled by train for the past 15 years, but now, as a Member of Parliament, I do so every day; and it is the regular day in, day out delay, even if it is a few minutes, that means...

Member
Rehman Chishti (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
2 March 2016
Reference
606 c285WH
House
House of Commons

I agree entirely and thank my hon. Friend for his comments. I have spoken to the Rail Minister about it, and am delighted that she is in her place, because I know she is addressing those very points. I know I am not speaking against her but in support of...

Member
Tom Tugendhat (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
2 March 2016
Reference
606 c285WH
House
House of Commons

On that point about compensation, does my hon. Friend agree that the “delay repay” scheme should kick in far earlier than the 30 minutes that the hon. Member for Eltham (Clive Efford) alluded to? Perhaps compensation for passengers who are delayed should commence after 15 minutes.

Member
Gareth Johnson (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
2 March 2016
Reference
606 c285WH
House
House of Commons

My hon. Friend is right; we need to get responsiveness into the system, and the way to do so, I am afraid, is through the pocketbook, as we all know.

I was canvassing in Old Bexley and Sidcup this weekend for the Conservative party’s wonderful mayoral candidate, my hon. Friend the...

Member
Tom Tugendhat (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
2 March 2016
Reference
606 cc285-6WH
House
House of Commons

It is a pleasure to serve under your chairmanship, Mr Evans. I do not want to repeat the points that have been made today but rather touch in my remarks on three particular issues that affect my constituents: the overcrowding of carriages; the reliability of the service; and the poor...

Member
Matthew Pennycook (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
2 March 2016
Reference
606 cc286-7WH
House
House of Commons

The hon. Gentleman echoes a point I have made before. If there are constant daily delays, and if Southeastern cannot get its act together—whether that is through trains with more carriages or ensuring that trains run on time—it should surely give up the franchise to someone who can do it.

Member
Rehman Chishti (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
2 March 2016
Reference
606 c287WH
House
House of Commons

I think that Southeastern has lost the chance it had to restore faith and confidence in its service. The franchise should be removed. I would like to hear the Minister’s view on whether that should happen now or in 2018, when the contract lapses. However, Southeastern has lost the opportunity...

Member
Matthew Pennycook (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
2 March 2016
Reference
606 cc287-8WH
House
House of Commons

I will try to be brief and keep to your advised timing, Mr Evans.

I congratulate the hon. Member for Eltham (Clive Efford) on securing the debate and thank him for asking many important questions about infrastructure, compensation and penalties.

Like my hon. Friend the Member for Tonbridge and Malling (Tom Tugendhat),...

Member
Helen Whately (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
2 March 2016
Reference
606 cc288-9WH
House
House of Commons

My hon. Friend is making a very powerful point about the delays and what they mean for people’s lives. Linked to that point is the fact that if somebody gets to the station and their train is delayed, when they do get on a train, it is packed. They cannot...

Member
Rehman Chishti (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
2 March 2016
Reference
606 c289WH
House
House of Commons

I agree with my hon. Friend that capacity is an issue as well as the problem of delays.

I appreciate that Southeastern and Network Rail have made some effort to communicate with Members such as me, who have been in frequent contact with them, urging them to give us explanations. They...

Member
Helen Whately (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
2 March 2016
Reference
606 cc289-290WH
House
House of Commons

It is a pleasure to serve under your chairmanship, Mr Evans. I congratulate my hon. Friend the Member for Eltham (Clive Efford) on securing the debate.

I have just one train line running through my constituency—two tracks, three stations, one train line. What could go wrong? Well, Southeastern could go wrong,...

Member
Teresa Pearce (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
2 March 2016
Reference
606 cc290-2WH
House
House of Commons

It is a pleasure to serve under your chairmanship, Mr Evans. I thank the hon. Member for Eltham (Clive Efford) for securing this debate. I know how important the train service is for his constituents. It is also important for my constituents, who live only 26 miles from London. Since...

Member
Kelly Tolhurst (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
2 March 2016
Reference
606 cc292-3WH
House
House of Commons

It is a delight to serve under your sagacious direction, Mr Evans. I start with an apology for having to leave before the end of the debate because I have an appointment later this morning at King’s College hospital and it has already been postponed twice. You will understand, Mr...

Member
Jim Dowd (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
2 March 2016
Reference
606 cc293-5WH
House
House of Commons