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Motion that this House has considered e-petition 167596 relating to the banning of non-recyclable and non-compostable packaging. Agreed to on question. Sitting adjourned without Question put.

Lead member
David Mackintosh
Answering member
Baroness Coffey
Department
Department for Environment, Food and Rural Affairs
Type
e-petition debates
Date
23 January 2017
Reference
620 cc1-18WH
House
House of Commons

I beg to move,

That this House has considered e-petition 167596 relating to the banning of non-recyclable and non-compostable packaging.

It is a pleasure to serve under your chairmanship, Mr Bone. The petition’s aim is clear. Regardless of the potential challenges posed in achieving it, I am sure we all support its...

Member
David Mackintosh (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
23 January 2017
Reference
620 cc1-2WH
House
House of Commons

Does the hon. Gentleman agree that producer responsibility is at the heart of this issue? The very best suppliers of anything, from fresh vegetables to the most complex white goods, do very well on recyclability and the way they think about the end use of packaging and wrapping. Is it...

Member
Barry Sheerman (Labour; Co-operative Party)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
23 January 2017
Reference
620 c2WH
House
House of Commons

I agree with the hon. Gentleman. The issue will be driven by consumers, and producers need to take a role, but we as legislators also need to look at the issue and debate it from time to time. I look forward to the Government’s response later today.

As the petition states,...

Member
David Mackintosh (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
23 January 2017
Reference
620 cc2-3WH
House
House of Commons

Does the hon. Gentleman agree that if we were working at the highest level of the best local authority in terms of recycling achievement, we would be in a much happier and more successful place? Has he looked? I own up to this: my constituency of Huddersfield is under Kirklees...

Member
Barry Sheerman (Labour; Co-operative Party)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
23 January 2017
Reference
620 c3WH
House
House of Commons

I am grateful to the hon. Gentleman for his intervention. I agree that the difference between levels of recycling under different local authorities across the country is shocking. It makes it hard for people to understand the regimes involved, and it lets off the hook those retailers or producers that...

Member
David Mackintosh (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
23 January 2017
Reference
620 cc3-4WH
House
House of Commons

My hon. Friend is making interesting points. Recycling is one thing, but reuse is the next step. We have seen some great initiatives such as the 5p carrier bag charge, which has meant more people reusing them and fewer bags going into landfill and the sea. Would he welcome a...

Member
Scott Mann (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
23 January 2017
Reference
620 c4WH
House
House of Commons

I am grateful to my hon. Friend for his intervention. I know he does a lot of work in this field in his own constituency and he works incredibly hard to raise the issue here in the House. He raises an important point and I am sure the Minister has...

Member
David Mackintosh (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
23 January 2017
Reference
620 c4WH
House
House of Commons

I was not going to speak, but I am a passionate parliamentarian; if I may say so, Mr Bone, you and I both are pretty passionate in the Chamber. You know that I have been a long-time supporter of recycling, reuse and remanufacture. It is important to get the Opposition...

Member
Barry Sheerman (Labour; Co-operative Party)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
23 January 2017
Reference
620 cc4-5WH
House
House of Commons

rose—

Member
Scott Mann (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
23 January 2017
Reference
620 c5WH
House
House of Commons

I will not take any interventions. I simply wanted to get what I have said on the record, Mr Bone, and to be very well behaved for a change.

4.44 pm

Member
Barry Sheerman (Labour; Co-operative Party)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
23 January 2017
Reference
620 c5WH
House
House of Commons

It is a great pleasure to speak under your chairmanship, Mr Bone. I thank my hon. Friend the Member for Northampton South (David Mackintosh) for securing this important and timely debate. I am chairman of the all-party group for the packaging manufacturing industry. I spent 25 years in the industry...

Member
Mark Pawsey (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
23 January 2017
Reference
620 cc5-6WH
House
House of Commons

The hon. Gentleman is making some good points about good packaging, but many of the people I represent are furious about bad packaging. What does he have to say about innovations in packaging such that we now have those coffee things for a Nespresso which cannot be recycled at all,...

Member
Barry Sheerman (Labour; Co-operative Party)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
23 January 2017
Reference
620 c6WH
House
House of Commons

The hon. Gentleman could start me off on coffee cups, but I will deal with them later in my remarks. We are talking about consumer choice, and we need an informed consumer. To go back to the Easter egg example, if we wanted only to give people a bit of...

Member
Mark Pawsey (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
23 January 2017
Reference
620 c7WH
House
House of Commons

Does my hon. Friend agree that other countries in Europe give Easter eggs in different ways? It is therefore incumbent not only on the consumer to want that to change, but on producers to look at different ways in which to market eggs.

Member
David Mackintosh (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
23 January 2017
Reference
620 c7WH
House
House of Commons

The packaging industry is doing that. It is highly innovative and the amount of material that goes into the average Easter egg pack has been reduced. The process, which I will talk about later, is called light- weighting: using the least amount of material necessary to keep the products safe.

Frankly,...

Member
Mark Pawsey (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
23 January 2017
Reference
620 cc7-8WH
House
House of Commons

There is obviously a benefit to incentivisation. That used to happen with glass bottles, which people got 10p for returning. Does the hon. Gentleman believe that the coffee companies that sell reusable cups in the hope that people will bring them back and fill them up should similarly incentivise the...

Member
Gavin Robinson (Democratic Unionist Party)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
23 January 2017
Reference
620 c8WH
House
House of Commons

In certain instances, that is the right thing to do. For example, where a coffee company serves coffee for consumption on the premises, a reusable cup that is then properly disinfected and washed is entirely the right thing to use, but not many coffee companies are happy to serve their...

Member
Mark Pawsey (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
23 January 2017
Reference
620 cc9-11WH
House
House of Commons

It is an honour to serve under your chairmanship today, Mr Bone. There may not have been many contributions to the debate, but they have all been relevant and informative. I thank the Petitions Committee for putting the debate forward and the hon. Member for Northampton South (David Mackintosh) for...

Member
Mary Glindon (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
23 January 2017
Reference
620 cc11-3WH
House
House of Commons

It has been a very interesting debate on the petition, which was created by Teja Hudson and secured more than 74,000 signatures. It was chosen for debate by the Petitions Committee, and was introduced by my hon. Friend the Member for Northampton South (David Mackintosh) with his usual aplomb. My...

Member
Baroness Coffey (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
23 January 2017
Reference
620 cc13-5WH
House
House of Commons