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I beg to move,

That this House has considered e-petition 242300 relating to future trade deals and the National Health Service.

It is a pleasure to speak under your chairmanship, Sir Roger. I thank Mr Byron Davis for starting the petition, which to date has attracted 166,998 signatures, including more than 200...

Member
Mike Hill (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
22 July 2019
Reference
663 c477WH
House
House of Commons

This is a crucial debate. The Government have already awarded £9 billion-worth of contracts. Section 75 of the Health and Social Care Act 2012 is the biggest threat to the NHS, as it opens up the whole NHS to the market. Does my hon. Friend agree that the Government must...

Member
Rachael Maskell (Labour; Co-operative Party)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
22 July 2019
Reference
663 c477WH
House
House of Commons

My hon. Friend makes a powerful point, and I completely agree that the Government need to pay urgent to attention to that.

The Government’s response continued:

“the Government will continue to ensure that decisions on how to run public services are made by UK Governments, including the Devolved Administrations, and not our...

Member
Mike Hill (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
22 July 2019
Reference
663 cc477-8WH
House
House of Commons

I congratulate my hon. Friend on opening this debate. I agree with my hon. Friend the Member for York Central (Rachael Maskell) that the Government should repeal section 75 as a matter of urgency, because it if they do not, they will throw the national health service to the dogs....

Member
Jim Cunningham (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
22 July 2019
Reference
663 c478WH
House
House of Commons

I agree that it is truly a case of words, not deeds.

Although people may find it reassuring to hear the current Secretary of State for Health and Social Care say that the NHS is not for sale and will not be on the table in any future trade talks, we...

Member
Mike Hill (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
22 July 2019
Reference
663 c478WH
House
House of Commons

I support my hon. Friend’s comments about the petition. I am pleased that my constituency was in the top 10 for the highest number for signatures.

My hon. Friend is right to highlight the Government’s commitments. Indeed, the October 2017 White Paper on future trade arrangements said that the protections of...

Member
Paul Blomfield (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
22 July 2019
Reference
663 c478WH
House
House of Commons

My hon. Friend makes a powerful point with which I agree. The voice of the BMA and other professional bodies is most important and must be heard.

The petition asks for the provision of “concrete safeguards” to keep NHS services out of any future trade deals. That is nothing new; that...

Member
Mike Hill (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
22 July 2019
Reference
663 cc478-9WH
House
House of Commons

It is clear that the NHS is already for sale. Only recently, the urgent care centre in my constituency was put out to tender. It was recommended that a private, for-profit company should run that facility, which was previously an NHS service. As has been stated, a record £9 billion...

Member
Mike Amesbury (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
22 July 2019
Reference
663 c479WH
House
House of Commons

As always, my hon. Friend makes a powerful point. Let us not forget the millions spent compensating private companies that lose contracts and take the Government to court.

Trade deals are not only dangerous for the future of the NHS, as they would entrench privatisation, but undermine our democracy, as future...

Member
Mike Hill (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
22 July 2019
Reference
663 c479WH
House
House of Commons

Does my hon. Friend agree that the riskiest point of entry for privatisation in our NHS is big pharma? Clearly, big pharma will seek to run other services in our NHS. It is essential that any trade deal takes seriously the threat big pharma poses to our NHS, given the...

Member
Rachael Maskell (Labour; Co-operative Party)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
22 July 2019
Reference
663 c479WH
House
House of Commons

Again, I agree with my hon. Friend and bow to her knowledge. We all know that pharmaceuticals is one of the major gateways to the potential privatisation of NHS services. I say again that the only way to fully protect our NHS from trade deals is to fully exclude it...

Member
Mike Hill (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
22 July 2019
Reference
663 c479WH
House
House of Commons

Alex Azar, the US Health and Human Services Secretary, has said that Washington will use its muscle to push up drug prices abroad in order to lower the costs paid by patients in the United States. He said on CNBC:

“On the foreign side, we need to, through our trade negotiations...

Member
Matt Western (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
22 July 2019
Reference
663 c480WH
House
House of Commons

Undoubtedly, and we would be hostages to fortune. My hon. Friend makes a very important point right at the end of my speech. I reiterate that I believe, as I am confident the petitioners do, that we should fully exclude the NHS from trade deals.

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Member
Mike Hill (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
22 July 2019
Reference
663 c480WH
House
House of Commons

It seems to me that we are debating that old chestnut, “public good, private bad.” We must take into consideration the fact that 7.6% of all NHS spending goes on what we might call private-type enterprises. They are not all for-profit enterprises; many are in the not-for-profit sector, such as...

Member
Lord Mackinlay of Richborough (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
22 July 2019
Reference
663 cc480-1WH
House
House of Commons

Will the hon. Gentleman clarify how many trade deals the Government have negotiated that include aspects of healthcare?

Member
Mike Amesbury (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
22 July 2019
Reference
663 c481WH
House
House of Commons

To date, obviously none, because we are not able to, but many roll-over agreements are coming to fruition. The biggest, which the Department for International Trade concluded just a few weeks ago, is with Switzerland, which is a major provider of both pharmaceuticals and high-level industrial equipment, which is often...

Member
Lord Mackinlay of Richborough (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
22 July 2019
Reference
663 c481WH
House
House of Commons

It is a pleasure to serve under your chairmanship, Sir Roger. I thank my hon. Friend the Member for Hartlepool (Mike Hill) for introducing the debate and setting out the petitioners’ concerns about this important issue.

I start by picking up the comments made by the hon. Member for South Thanet...

Member
Liz Twist (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
22 July 2019
Reference
663 cc481-3WH
House
House of Commons

It is great to serve under your chairmanship, Sir Roger. I thank my hon. Friend the Member for Hartlepool (Mike Hill) for securing this important debate. For people in my constituency, this issue is particularly timely. Last month, reports emerged that the Warrington and Halton Hospitals NHS Foundation Trust had...

Member
Faisal Rashid (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
22 July 2019
Reference
663 cc482-4WH
House
House of Commons

It is a pleasure to serve under your chairmanship, Sir Roger. I thank the hon. Member for Hartlepool (Mike Hill) for introducing the debate and speaking so well on behalf of the petitioners.

Let me start with a reference to Brexit, because I suspect that many of the concerns about trade...

Member
Stewart Hosie (Scottish National Party)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
22 July 2019
Reference
663 c484WH
House
House of Commons

Does the hon. Gentleman agree that it is very concerning that, when the President was here on his state visit, he seemed to say that that was the No. 1 priority, despite the fact that our Prime Minister tried to deny that on the day?

Member
Catherine West (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
22 July 2019
Reference
663 c484WH
House
House of Commons