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Lords motion to take note of the first report of the Public Services Committee on Fit for the future? Rethinking the public services workforce (HL 48). Agreed to on question.

Lead member
Baroness Armstrong of Hill Top
Answering member
Baroness Neville-Rolfe
Department
Cabinet Office; Public Services Committee (HL)
Type
Debates on select committee reports
Date
16 December 2022
Reference
826 cc887-913
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I welcome the opportunity to talk about this today. I hope I get through it without losing my voice, and I apologise to the House for having a cold.

This is the third report from the Public Services Committee and continues our previous work focused on making sure that...

Member
Baroness Armstrong of Hill Top (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
16 December 2022
Reference
826 cc887-891
House
House of Lords

I begin by congratulating the noble Baroness, Lady Armstrong, not only on getting through those 15 minutes with a cold but on the report. I also congratulate and thank the members of the committee, as well as the staff who the noble Baroness mentioned.

One of my passions is local civil...

Member
Lord Kamall (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
16 December 2022
Reference
826 cc891-3
House
House of Lords

My Lords, it is a pleasure to follow the noble Lord, Lord Kamall, whose speech reminds us that his tenure as Minister for Civil Society was all too short. It has been a privilege to serve on the Public Services Committee, so wisely and ably chaired by my noble friend...

Member
Baroness Pitkeathley (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
16 December 2022
Reference
826 cc893-5
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I declare my interest as a vice-president of the Local Government Association. It is always a pleasure to follow the noble Baroness, Lady Pitkeathley, and I too will be focusing on skills and education in workforce planning. I congratulate the noble Baroness, Lady Armstrong of Hill Top, and...

Member
Baroness Brinton (Liberal Democrat)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
16 December 2022
Reference
826 cc895-7
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I thank the noble Baroness, Lady Armstrong, for her chairing of our committee, her patience and her common sense in building our at times passionate arguments into an excellent report that we all supported. I thank her. I declare my interest as stated in the register.

The report highlights...

Member
Lord Hogan-Howe (Crossbench)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
16 December 2022
Reference
826 cc897-9
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I welcome the report and the introduction to it by my noble friend Lady Armstrong of Hill Top. It is wide-ranging and authoritative, and issues have been raised clearly by earlier speakers. It will be no great surprise that I shall focus on recommendation 18, which is about...

Member
Lord Davies of Brixton (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
16 December 2022
Reference
826 cc899-901
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I join others in congratulating the noble Baroness, Lady Armstrong of Hill Top, and her Select Committee on producing the report. Its carefully considered, cross-party conclusions and recommendations surely highlight both the added value which your Lordships’ House brings to the UK’s legislative process and how much would...

Member
Lord Shinkwin (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
16 December 2022
Reference
826 cc900-2
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I add my congratulations to the noble Baroness, Lady Armstrong, on this excellent report—indeed, on a series of reports that have added a lot to my knowledge of the challenges facing public services. It was an excellent idea of whoever decides these things in this place to set...

Member
Lord Liddle (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
16 December 2022
Reference
826 cc902-3
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I thoroughly enjoyed reading this report and I hope that the Government are taking it seriously. It describes both the workforce crisis in our public services and the demographic crisis; they are clearly interconnected.

However, there are other things about which we should be concerned. I am certainly concerned...

Member
Lord Wallace of Saltaire (Liberal Democrat)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
16 December 2022
Reference
826 cc903-5
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I too thank the committee for its excellent report. It and its recommendations show the value of cross-party working. I also thank my noble friend Lady Armstrong for her excellent introduction, despite her suffering from a cold. She made all the key arguments extremely well and I am...

Member
Lord Collins of Highbury (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
16 December 2022
Reference
826 c904
House
House of Lords

More?

Member
Lord Wallace of Saltaire (Liberal Democrat)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
16 December 2022
Reference
826 c904
House
House of Lords

Well, how could I change? I will continue that theme as I go through my contribution.

This report on the future of the public services workforce highlights something that we have all experienced, as I am sure everyone has, whether in failing to get a GP appointment or when visiting a...

Member
Lord Collins of Highbury (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
16 December 2022
Reference
826 cc904-7
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I begin by sharing the many thanks expressed to the noble Baroness, Lady Armstrong of Hill Top, for opening the debate with such verve, and indeed to her committee and its staff. I thank all noble Lords for their interesting contributions.

The Public Services Committee, of which the noble...

Member
Baroness Neville-Rolfe (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
16 December 2022
Reference
826 cc906-911
House
House of Lords

And employers too.

Member
Lord Collins of Highbury (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
16 December 2022
Reference
826 c911
House
House of Lords

And employers. I know from my experience at Tesco, which the noble Lord, Lord Collins, was kind enough to reference, how important discussions with unions on ways of working and training can be. It is not only about pay; it is also about how you modernise, move forward together and...

Member
Baroness Neville-Rolfe (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
16 December 2022
Reference
826 c911
House
House of Lords

New.

Member
Lord Collins of Highbury (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
16 December 2022
Reference
826 c911
House
House of Lords

—old-fashioned new and old—might agree with that. However, for today, strikers need to ask themselves whether it is really fair

to do what they are doing as the country is trying to have what is meant to be the first normal Christmas for some time.

The noble Lord, Lord Davies of...

Member
Baroness Neville-Rolfe (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
16 December 2022
Reference
826 cc911-2
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I thank everyone for their contributions. Anyone listening to the debate today will know that, across the piece, this House understands that public services are central to the lives of people in this country. Whoever we are, whatever our age or culture, they are essential to our safety,...

Member
Baroness Armstrong of Hill Top (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
16 December 2022
Reference
826 cc912-3
House
House of Lords
Type
Select Committee reports; House of Lords papers; Parliamentary committees
Committee
Public Services Committee (HL)
Date
13 July 2022
Reference
HL 48 2022-23
House
House of Lords