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Laid by
Secretary James Cleverly
Department
Home Office
Type
Unprinted papers
Date
29 February 2024
House
House of Lords; House of Commons

Agreed to on question.

Lead member
Christine Jardine
Answering member
Kevin Hollinrake
Department
Department for Business and Trade
Type
Adjournment debates
Date
27 November 2023
Reference
741 cc675-6
House
House of Commons

The subject of the debate is post office services in Edinburgh West. Although it is about my constituency, the problem could just as easily apply to many constituencies throughout the country. Indeed, I have not spoken to a single Member who has not said that their constituency faces the same...

Member
Christine Jardine (Liberal Democrat)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
27 November 2023
Reference
741 c671
House
House of Commons

I commend the hon. Lady for bringing this matter forward. Last week, the parliamentary group of the Democratic Unionist party met the Northern Ireland sub-postmasters association. Every one of those issues that she mentions were discussed with us. We were told that those opportunities were no longer available in the...

Member
Jim Shannon (Democratic Unionist Party)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
27 November 2023
Reference
741 c671
House
House of Commons

The hon. Member makes a very good point. These were all vital services. Not so very long ago, post offices were central to communities up and down the country. They also provided some of the most spectacular examples of architecture, and they dominated our town centres. The local post office...

Member
Christine Jardine (Liberal Democrat)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
27 November 2023
Reference
741 c671
House
House of Commons

The hon. Lady makes an excellent point. This is a truly national problem, which unfortunately affects the whole of the UK. Indeed, there is also a related problem of postal deliveries not appearing on time, which is having a huge effect on many residents. I have had closures of post...

Member
Matt Rodda (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
27 November 2023
Reference
741 c671
House
House of Commons

That is a good point. The national service is being undermined. As the hon. Member mentioned, deliveries are not being made. Moreover, one third of rural post offices are now only part-time outreach services, open for an average of five and a half hours. It is not the service that...

Member
Christine Jardine (Liberal Democrat)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
27 November 2023
Reference
741 c672
House
House of Commons

I would like to share with my hon. Friend a short quote from a letter that a constituent of mine wrote to me about the reduction of Driver and Vehicle Licensing Agency and other Government services at post office branches. He said:

“Having worked for the Insolvency Service, I am aware...

Member
Richard Foord (Liberal Democrat)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
27 November 2023
Reference
741 c672
House
House of Commons

I most certainly do agree with my hon. Friend’s constituent. Citizens Advice tells us that almost 20% of people still visit their post office weekly for one of the services that he mentioned. That increases to 23% of those in rural areas, 27% of carers, 22% of over-65s and 21%...

Member
Christine Jardine (Liberal Democrat)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
27 November 2023
Reference
741 c672
House
House of Commons

We have all heard the point about post offices being the front desk of Government, but at the same time we are told that Government services will be digital by default. Is not the root cause of the problem the lack of strategy that would stem from a coherent Government...

Member
Alistair Carmichael (Liberal Democrat)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
27 November 2023
Reference
741 c672
House
House of Commons

My right hon. Friend is absolutely right: there is no coherence to the Government’s position. Digital services do not work for everybody. Not everybody wants them. As with so many of our public services—buses, trains, the NHS and water—we need a recognition that this issue needs action now. It needs...

Member
Christine Jardine (Liberal Democrat)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
27 November 2023
Reference
741 cc672-3
House
House of Commons

It is a pleasure to serve under your chairmanship, Madam Deputy Speaker. I congratulate the hon. Member for Edinburgh West (Christine Jardine) on securing this debate. She is right to say how highly valued post offices are to our communities, and to speak up for them in this debate. I...

Member
Kevin Hollinrake (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
27 November 2023
Reference
741 cc673-4
House
House of Commons

The hon. Member for Edinburgh West (Christine Jardine) referred to elderly people and those who are isolated in the community and do not have access to online services. Those are the people who tell me they need their post office. There are many of them. I think the Minister would...

Member
Jim Shannon (Democratic Unionist Party)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
27 November 2023
Reference
741 c674
House
House of Commons

The hon. Gentleman is absolutely right. I say that both as a Member of Parliament serving a rural area and as postal affairs Minister. We want to make sure that every citizen of this entire nation is served properly. Post offices do an important job in that. We need to...

Member
Kevin Hollinrake (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
27 November 2023
Reference
741 c674
House
House of Commons

On the Minister’s point about Duart Crescent, yes, the postmaster resigned, but it is proving impossible to get a replacement there and in Blackhall, because the remuneration does not encourage them. Perhaps he will bear in mind another important point: we are all buying things online, and consumers are driving...

Member
Christine Jardine (Liberal Democrat)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
27 November 2023
Reference
741 c674
House
House of Commons

The hon. Lady makes an important point, and I will come to those comments shortly. Remuneration has to be part of the solution.

Barnton post office and Davidson’s Mains post office are both under a mile away respectively from the previous outlets at Duart Crescent and Blackhall, so there are post...

Member
Kevin Hollinrake (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
27 November 2023
Reference
741 c675
House
House of Commons

I thank the Minister for giving way again. Does he agree that, when the contract is up shortly, a longer contract, to ensure stability for post offices with the banks, and the creation of more hubs that involve post offices, will be essential?

Member
Christine Jardine (Liberal Democrat)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
27 November 2023
Reference
741 c675
House
House of Commons

Absolutely. This is a real opportunity for the network, and not just for a longer-term contract for more stability. It has the banking framework, which forms its relationship with the banks. The banks have made around £2.5 billion of cost savings through the closure of branches. We think that a...

Member
Kevin Hollinrake (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
27 November 2023
Reference
741 cc675-6
House
House of Commons

Would the Minister reassure me on the interoperability of post office systems with those belonging to building societies? We have talked about that before, given some of the difficulties with accessing cash in my constituency. Will he also pass on my concerns and those of colleagues to Royal Mail about...

Member
Matt Rodda (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
27 November 2023
Reference
741 c676
House
House of Commons

The hon. Gentleman is absolutely right to highlight those issues. Through the work that the Economic Secretary to the Treasury and I have done with UK Finance, more clarity has been given to postmasters about the limits for certain banks that have particular problems. The feedback I have got from...

Member
Kevin Hollinrake (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
27 November 2023
Reference
741 c676
House
House of Commons