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On a point of order, Mr Speaker. This relates to the point the Minister made about the Metropolitan police asking that certain documents not be released, in case they prejudice a trial or investigation. You know as well as I do, Sir, the importance of privilege to this place. Will...

Member
Simon Hoare (Conservative)
Type
Points of order
Date
4 February 2026
Reference
780 c375
House
House of Commons

My Lords, I thank the Minister for this Statement and I join my right honourable friend the shadow Home Secretary in welcoming its contents. It is true that, for the British

consent-based policing model to work, the trust must be mutual. The people must trust the police and the police...

Member
Lord Sharpe of Epsom (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
28 October 2024
Reference
840 cc918-920
House
House of Lords

My Lords, we welcome the Home Secretary’s emphasis on speeding up proceedings in cases involving police using lethal force. Protracted investigations cause additional trauma to bereaved families, prolong the stress for officers involved and damage wider police morale. We also welcome the equalisation of thresholds for criminal charges to ensure...

Member
Baroness Doocey (Liberal Democrat)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
28 October 2024
Reference
840 cc920-1
House
House of Lords

I am grateful to both Front-Bench speakers for their constructive comments and their broad welcome for my right honourable friend the Home Secretary’s Statement in the House of Commons last week. In particular, the point made by the noble Lord, Lord Sharpe, about trust being extremely important is very valid....

Member
Lord Hanson of Flint (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
28 October 2024
Reference
840 cc921-3
House
House of Lords

My Lords, does the noble Lord agree that, given the very difficult circumstances in which armed police have to operate, those who make the decision to prosecute should do so only when the evidence of illegality is very robust, and that such decisions should not be made simply and solely...

Member
Viscount Hailsham (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
28 October 2024
Reference
840 c923
House
House of Lords

It is important that there are grounds for the police to recommend to the CPS and for the CPS to take action on prosecution. That could happen in any number of circumstances. In the circumstances that generated this Statement, the decision to take forward the prosecution was taken

by the...

Member
Lord Hanson of Flint (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
28 October 2024
Reference
840 cc923-4
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I broadly support the Government’s response to this review, but I will make a few comments about the case of Chris Kaba, Sergeant Blake and firearms officers. I am not sure that the review goes far enough in two clear areas.

I repeat that it is a tragedy that...

Member
Lord Hogan-Howe (Crossbench)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
28 October 2024
Reference
840 c924
House
House of Lords

The noble Lord, Lord Hogan-Howe, obviously brings great experience to this question and this discussion, and I appreciate the discussions I have had with him—not just in the Chamber of this House but also outside the Chamber.

The noble Lord will know, and understand, why I cannot comment in too much...

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Lord Hanson of Flint (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
28 October 2024
Reference
840 cc924-5
House
House of Lords

My Lords, 30 years ago, the House of Lords sitting judicially in the criminal appeal of Lee Clegg expressed concern that only a charge of murder was available in these cases, instead of an offence of, for example, using excessive force. The Law Lords pointed out—as the noble Lord, Lord...

Member
Lord Carter of Haslemere (Crossbench)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
28 October 2024
Reference
840 c925
House
House of Lords

I am grateful to the noble Lord for that suggestion. We are in the process of reviewing the legislation and I do not want to pre-empt the reviews that are being undertaken by the Attorney-General and the individuals commissioned by the Home Secretary. It is clear, however, that we need...

Member
Lord Hanson of Flint (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
28 October 2024
Reference
840 c925
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I declare my interests as set out in the register. I accept that there is going to be a review, so perhaps I could ask the Minister to ask the review to consider the following. Surely, a lawfully armed police officer on duty, acting in accordance with their...

Member
Lord Paddick (Non-affiliated)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
28 October 2024
Reference
840 c925
House
House of Lords

The noble Lord brings extensive experience to this debate and these questions from his policing background. I understand the points he has made, but I hope he will understand when I say to him first and foremost that I cannot second-guess the decisions that were taken by the CPS and/or...

Member
Lord Hanson of Flint (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
28 October 2024
Reference
840 c926
House
House of Lords

My Lords, having served as Police Ombudsman and having had the awesome responsibility of investigating a fatal police shooting, I know that these incidents are very, very rare. I know how difficult this is for all concerned—the family of Chris Kaba, but most particularly now, Sergeant Blake and his family,...

Member
Baroness O'Loan (Crossbench)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
28 October 2024
Reference
840 cc926-7
House
House of Lords

The noble Lord is absolutely right that policing is undertaken by consent. To have that consent, policing needs both to reflect and to understand the community. I have no problem with police officers stopping and searching individuals—that is part of the prevention of criminal activity—but they need to do so...

Member
Lord Hanson of Flint (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
28 October 2024
Reference
840 c928
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I declare my interests as set out in the register. I welcome the Minister’s typically sensible and pragmatic approach to this issue. Does he agree that we have to strike a balance in the bulwark of our system, which is judicial independence, notwithstanding the sui generis nature of...

Member
Lord Jackson of Peterborough (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
28 October 2024
Reference
840 c928
House
House of Lords

My response to the noble Lord will not be critical of the judge. I simply say that, having seen the implications of that decision, my right honourable friend and I have taken the view that anonymity is the best way to protect the safety of anybody charged with these offences...

Member
Lord Hanson of Flint (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
28 October 2024
Reference
840 c928
House
House of Lords

My Lords, the attention of the House today is rightly turned on relationships between the police and the black community, but there is another sector of the community that feels completely abandoned by the police. Week after week there are marches through the centre of London: pro-Palestinian, anti-Israel, with anti-Semitic...

Member
Baroness Deech (Crossbench)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
28 October 2024
Reference
840 c928
House
House of Lords

I am grateful to the noble Baroness for raising that issue. I do not believe there is two-tier policing. I believe the police act impartially against anybody who is committing an offence, and the police will act in that way against anybody who is perceived to be committing an offence....

Member
Lord Hanson of Flint (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
28 October 2024
Reference
840 c929
House
House of Lords

I am grateful to the noble Baroness, who brings her experience to this debate. We both spent time in Northern Ireland some time ago, when I was a Minister and she was the police ombudsperson responsible for those areas. I welcome her welcome for the anonymity clause; it is vital...

Member
Lord Hanson of Flint (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
28 October 2024
Reference
840 c927
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I strongly support the Statement and everything the Minister has said. However, he will be aware of my report of the harassment of the heavy haulage industry by West Midlands Police. As I stated in that report, I have personally observed West Midlands Police officers harass drivers of...

Member
Earl Attlee (Conservative; Social Democratic Party)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
28 October 2024
Reference
840 c927
House
House of Lords