Amendment 135 135: Clause 33, page 27, line 34, leave out subsection (5) and insert— "( ) In this section "gang" means a group of people who perceive themselves, or are perceived by others, to be a discernable group if— (a) the group is formed for the purpose of carrying...

Amendment 135 135: Clause 33, page 27, line 34, leave out subsection (5) and insert— "( ) In this section "gang" means a group of people who perceive themselves, or are perceived by others, to be a discernable group if— (a) the group is formed for the purpose of carrying...

Amendment 123B 123B: Schedule 4, page 155, line 37, at end insert— "(2A) Conditions treated as mentioned in subsection (2)(a) and (b) do not cease to be so treated except in accordance with subsection (2B) (and, in particular and subject to that subsection, do not cease to be so treated...

Amendment 123B 123B: Schedule 4, page 155, line 37, at end insert— "(2A) Conditions treated as mentioned in subsection (2)(a) and (b) do not cease to be so treated except in accordance with subsection (2B) (and, in particular and subject to that subsection, do not cease to be so treated...

My Lords, I do not work on my own, rather like the Minister. Amendments 113A and 125L were suggested by the Local Government Association and relate to its concerns about the limitations on the role of a licensing authority member in objecting to various licences, including temporary activities. Under current...

My Lords, I do not work on my own, rather like the Minister. Amendments 113A and 125L were suggested by the Local Government Association and relate to its concerns about the limitations on the role of a licensing authority member in objecting to various licences, including temporary activities. Under current...

My Lords, the right reverend Prelate raises a question that makes me have to think, but I am sure that we are talking about physical violence. I would have to go away to make it absolutely certain, but I am sure that is what we are concerned with in this...

My Lords, the right reverend Prelate raises a question that makes me have to think, but I am sure that we are talking about physical violence. I would have to go away to make it absolutely certain, but I am sure that is what we are concerned with in this...

My Lords, I hesitate to intervene, but a threat of violence may be a manifestation of intention. It is more than just an intention, while of course the actual violence is certainly more than intention. I would respectfully suggest that a threat of violence is something more than mere intention...

My Lords, I hesitate to intervene, but a threat of violence may be a manifestation of intention. It is more than just an intention, while of course the actual violence is certainly more than intention. I would respectfully suggest that a threat of violence is something more than mere intention...

I should like first to share in the welcome given by the noble Baroness to the noble Lord, Lord Skelmersdale, and to thank the noble Baroness, Lady Hanham, who sat opposite me for two years or so. We enjoyed skirmishing across the Dispatch Box and I wish her well in...

I should like first to share in the welcome given by the noble Baroness to the noble Lord, Lord Skelmersdale, and to thank the noble Baroness, Lady Hanham, who sat opposite me for two years or so. We enjoyed skirmishing across the Dispatch Box and I wish her well in...

This amendment relates to what the noble and learned Lord, Lord Lyell of Markyate, was talking about a moment ago—the standard of proof. We are saying that we should not have in the Bill, ""on the balance of probabilities"," and that we should insert "beyond reasonable doubt". The amendment has...

This amendment relates to what the noble and learned Lord, Lord Lyell of Markyate, was talking about a moment ago—the standard of proof. We are saying that we should not have in the Bill, ""on the balance of probabilities"," and that we should insert "beyond reasonable doubt". The amendment has...

My Lords, I rise to speak in the absence of my noble friend Lord Redesdale. However, I do not have a note about Amendment 113, so unfortunately I am not in a position to move the amendment on his behalf. I apologise to the Committee. Amendment 113 not moved. Clause...

My Lords, I rise to speak in the absence of my noble friend Lord Redesdale. However, I do not have a note about Amendment 113, so unfortunately I am not in a position to move the amendment on his behalf. I apologise to the Committee. Amendment 113 not moved. Clause...

Noble Lords will be aware that Clause 33(4) sets out that a court may prohibit a respondent from doing anything, or require the respondent to do anything. I am aware that noble Lords have concerns about those provisions. However, I should make clear that in placing any prohibitions or requirements...

Noble Lords will be aware that Clause 33(4) sets out that a court may prohibit a respondent from doing anything, or require the respondent to do anything. I am aware that noble Lords have concerns about those provisions. However, I should make clear that in placing any prohibitions or requirements...

Amendments 124A and 124B 124A: Schedule 4, page 155, line 44, at end insert— "(ba) a hearing before making such a resolution (including provision of a kind which may be made under section 183)," 124B: Schedule 4, page 155, line 46, at end insert— "(ca) any other procedure to be...

Amendments 124A and 124B 124A: Schedule 4, page 155, line 44, at end insert— "(ba) a hearing before making such a resolution (including provision of a kind which may be made under section 183)," 124B: Schedule 4, page 155, line 46, at end insert— "(ca) any other procedure to be...

My Lords, I shall speak also to Amendments 141 and 141A on timing. The effect of these amendments is to require the courts to impose a specific duration on the injunctions and to prevent the renewal of such injunctions. Amendment 141 suggests a maximum of two years and Amendment 141A...

My Lords, I shall speak also to Amendments 141 and 141A on timing. The effect of these amendments is to require the courts to impose a specific duration on the injunctions and to prevent the renewal of such injunctions. Amendment 141 suggests a maximum of two years and Amendment 141A...

My Lords, the Minister and, indeed, the noble Baronesses must be surprised to see this amendment because—in theory, anyway—it should not be necessary. However, it is intended to probe the various penalties and procedures that will be applicable for a breach of an injunction and to protect against any possibility...

My Lords, the Minister and, indeed, the noble Baronesses must be surprised to see this amendment because—in theory, anyway—it should not be necessary. However, it is intended to probe the various penalties and procedures that will be applicable for a breach of an injunction and to protect against any possibility...

Amendment 147B 147B: After Clause 43, insert the following new Clause— "Breach of injunction A person guilty of breaching an injunction under this Part may not be liable for imprisonment without representation."

Amendment 147B 147B: After Clause 43, insert the following new Clause— "Breach of injunction A person guilty of breaching an injunction under this Part may not be liable for imprisonment without representation."

I support the amendment, at least for very careful consideration. The noble Baroness reminded me of the McCann judgment. It is really a distinction without a difference here, because the criminal standard of proof and the enhanced civil standard must be so close. We want to make this measure effective,...

I support the amendment, at least for very careful consideration. The noble Baroness reminded me of the McCann judgment. It is really a distinction without a difference here, because the criminal standard of proof and the enhanced civil standard must be so close. We want to make this measure effective,...

Clause 30: Offence of persistently possessing alcohol in a public place Amendment 107 107: Clause 30, page 26, line 18, leave out subsection (1)

Clause 30: Offence of persistently possessing alcohol in a public place Amendment 107 107: Clause 30, page 26, line 18, leave out subsection (1)

My Lords, I do not believe that the person becomes a criminal. As I say, I am very conscious of not wanting to do that. It is not a criminal offence but a civil offence if he breaks that ABC. This is appropriate sequencing to capture the very small minority...

My Lords, I do not believe that the person becomes a criminal. As I say, I am very conscious of not wanting to do that. It is not a criminal offence but a civil offence if he breaks that ABC. This is appropriate sequencing to capture the very small minority...

As I understand it, the first time that any action is taken against the young person is on the third occasion when he is caught drinking in public, and then he becomes a criminal. I am saying: why not provide for the use of acceptable behaviour contracts as a precondition...

As I understand it, the first time that any action is taken against the young person is on the third occasion when he is caught drinking in public, and then he becomes a criminal. I am saying: why not provide for the use of acceptable behaviour contracts as a precondition...

My Lords, I am content that what we have here covers that, but rather than answering straight away while on my feet I should like to look at what the noble Lord has said. If that has a feasible and sensible way forward, I might come back with it, but...

My Lords, I am content that what we have here covers that, but rather than answering straight away while on my feet I should like to look at what the noble Lord has said. If that has a feasible and sensible way forward, I might come back with it, but...

Perhaps I may ask the noble Lord about one matter. He said on a number of occasions that the object of this clause is to deal with unsupervised drinking. Would it not be better to state in Clause 30, if we need an offence at all, that no offence is...

Perhaps I may ask the noble Lord about one matter. He said on a number of occasions that the object of this clause is to deal with unsupervised drinking. Would it not be better to state in Clause 30, if we need an offence at all, that no offence is...

My Lords, if I can make myself heard, I will introduce myself by saying that although there is a new face at the Dispatch Box on this subject, it does not signify a different approach to the Bill. However, there will inevitably be a change of style. Our amendments in...

My Lords, if I can make myself heard, I will introduce myself by saying that although there is a new face at the Dispatch Box on this subject, it does not signify a different approach to the Bill. However, there will inevitably be a change of style. Our amendments in...