142D: After Clause 53, insert the following new Clause— ““Third party offers to settle It shall be an offence for a third party insurance company to solicit a claimant who has a cause of action for personal injuries against its policy holder, to make an offer to settle that cause...

142D: After Clause 53, insert the following new Clause— ““Third party offers to settle It shall be an offence for a third party insurance company to solicit a claimant who has a cause of action for personal injuries against its policy holder, to make an offer to settle that cause...

We agree with the amendments in the name of the noble Lord, Lord Thomas of Gresford.

We agree with the amendments in the name of the noble Lord, Lord Thomas of Gresford.

My Lords, I support Amendment 132AA and wish to speak to the group which is associated with it, standing in the names of the noble Lords, Lord Alton and Lord Bach. I do so enthusiastically as I indicated in Committee. Whereas the noble Lord, Lord Thomas, may well have arguments...

My Lords, I support Amendment 132AA and wish to speak to the group which is associated with it, standing in the names of the noble Lords, Lord Alton and Lord Bach. I do so enthusiastically as I indicated in Committee. Whereas the noble Lord, Lord Thomas, may well have arguments...

Perhaps I may put two points to the noble and learned Lord before he sits down. The system as it operated under his stewardship did not take funds away from the claimant when they were successful in litigation. That is surely the difference from the matter before your Lordships' House....

Perhaps I may put two points to the noble and learned Lord before he sits down. The system as it operated under his stewardship did not take funds away from the claimant when they were successful in litigation. That is surely the difference from the matter before your Lordships' House....

I am sorry, the noble Baroness, Lady Coussins. I am happy to re-engage between now and Third Reading, but at this point we are not convinced.

I am sorry, the noble Baroness, Lady Coussins. I am happy to re-engage between now and Third Reading, but at this point we are not convinced.

So the earth is flat.

So the earth is flat.

No.

No.

My Lords, I thank all noble Lords who have contributed to this debate and I appreciate everyone's support. I particularly appreciated the powerful contribution made by the noble Lord, Lord Brennan, who helped us to envisage what these amendments would mean to real people in the real world rather than...

My Lords, I thank all noble Lords who have contributed to this debate and I appreciate everyone's support. I particularly appreciated the powerful contribution made by the noble Lord, Lord Brennan, who helped us to envisage what these amendments would mean to real people in the real world rather than...

132B: Clause 43, page 30, line 10, after ““are”” insert ““, subject to subsection 4C,””

132B: Clause 43, page 30, line 10, after ““are”” insert ““, subject to subsection 4C,””

My Lords, this group of amendments sets out the refinements to the architecture of the Bill that I have previously suggested. Noble Lords heard from me at some length before and I do not propose to repeat everything I said. I would just remind your Lordships that the model I...

My Lords, this group of amendments sets out the refinements to the architecture of the Bill that I have previously suggested. Noble Lords heard from me at some length before and I do not propose to repeat everything I said. I would just remind your Lordships that the model I...

My Lords, I thought the party of the noble Lord, Lord Thomas, was a party of conscience and reform. Conscience appears to have taken a back seat. I have a good deal of sympathy with most of the amendments to which he has spoken and I shall briefly comment on...

My Lords, I thought the party of the noble Lord, Lord Thomas, was a party of conscience and reform. Conscience appears to have taken a back seat. I have a good deal of sympathy with most of the amendments to which he has spoken and I shall briefly comment on...

My Lords, I thank my noble friend for his amendments. It will come as no surprise to the House if I yet again echo what has been said on numerous occasions on Report: the architecture, as my noble friend Lord McNally referred to it, of this part of the Bill...

My Lords, I thank my noble friend for his amendments. It will come as no surprise to the House if I yet again echo what has been said on numerous occasions on Report: the architecture, as my noble friend Lord McNally referred to it, of this part of the Bill...

I am sorry, but I am not going to take questions. We are hard-pressed for time. I have offered to re-engage, but as I said before, the evidence we asked for has not been forthcoming and I do not believe the argument that without this amendment, it is going to...

I am sorry, but I am not going to take questions. We are hard-pressed for time. I have offered to re-engage, but as I said before, the evidence we asked for has not been forthcoming and I do not believe the argument that without this amendment, it is going to...

I think we can almost see the response now.

I think we can almost see the response now.

My Lords, we have reached the stage of the evening when the noble Lord, Lord Pannick, not only asks the questions but gives the answers as well—cutting out the middleman, which is me. I take note of his suggestion. As I do with all our deliberations, I will report back...

My Lords, we have reached the stage of the evening when the noble Lord, Lord Pannick, not only asks the questions but gives the answers as well—cutting out the middleman, which is me. I take note of his suggestion. As I do with all our deliberations, I will report back...

With my customary reluctance, I beg leave to withdraw the amendment. Amendment 136A withdrawn. Amendments 136B to 136D not moved. Amendment 136E not moved. Clause 45 : Recovery of insurance premiums by way of costs Amendment 137 Clause 45 : Recovery of insurance premiums by way of costs Amendment 137...

With my customary reluctance, I beg leave to withdraw the amendment. Amendment 136A withdrawn. Amendments 136B to 136D not moved. Amendment 136E not moved. Clause 45 : Recovery of insurance premiums by way of costs Amendment 137 Clause 45 : Recovery of insurance premiums by way of costs Amendment 137...

Amendment 139C, in the name of the noble Lord, Lord Beecham, seeks to amend Clause 45 to require the Lord Chancellor to make regulations to allow the recovery of ATE insurance premiums taken out to cover the risk of paying one's own disbursements within the relevant pre-action protocol period. As...

Amendment 139C, in the name of the noble Lord, Lord Beecham, seeks to amend Clause 45 to require the Lord Chancellor to make regulations to allow the recovery of ATE insurance premiums taken out to cover the risk of paying one's own disbursements within the relevant pre-action protocol period. As...

Legal Aid, Sentencing and Punishment of Offenders Bill. Lords report stage fourth day.

Legal Aid, Sentencing and Punishment of Offenders Bill. Lords report stage fourth day.

My Lords, I apologise for not being present at the beginning of this debate. My name is on the letter and I want to underline my support for it. As a judge, I was involved with a number of these extremely sad cases, particularly at the Court of Appeal. The...

My Lords, I apologise for not being present at the beginning of this debate. My name is on the letter and I want to underline my support for it. As a judge, I was involved with a number of these extremely sad cases, particularly at the Court of Appeal. The...

My Lords, it is possible to describe other types of illness and the basis for claims in very much the same language as that used by the noble Lord, Lord Walton of Detchant, and the noble Baroness. So far as the first point is concerned, in the system as I...

My Lords, it is possible to describe other types of illness and the basis for claims in very much the same language as that used by the noble Lord, Lord Walton of Detchant, and the noble Baroness. So far as the first point is concerned, in the system as I...