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My Lords, I have two amendments in this group and thank the noble Lord, Lord Stevenson, the noble Baroness, Lady Altmann, and my noble friend Lord German for their support. These amendments follow up on points I made at Second Reading about whether it was right to suspend all of...

Member
Baroness Bowles of Berkhamsted (Liberal Democrat)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
13 July 2020
Reference
804 cc1508-1510
House
House of Lords
Laid by
Mr Simon Clarke
Department
Treasury
Type
Select Committee reports (Government responses); Command papers
Date
13 February 2020
Reference
CP 221
House
House of Lords; House of Commons

My right honourable friend the Chancellor of the Exchequer (Sajid Javid) has today made the following Written Ministerial Statement.

A meeting of the Economic and Financial Affairs (ECOFIN) Council will be held in Brussels on 21 January 2020. The Council will discuss the following:

Early Morning Session

The Eurogroup President will...

Member
Earl of Courtown (Conservative)
Department
Treasury
Type
Written statements
Date
21 January 2020
Reference
HLWS44
House
House of Lords

A meeting of the Economic and Financial Affairs (ECOFIN) Council will be held in Brussels on 21 January 2020. The Council will discuss the following:

Early Morning Session

The Eurogroup President will brief the Council on the outcomes of the 20 January meeting of the Eurogroup, and the European Commission will...

Member
Sajid Javid (Conservative)
Department
Treasury
Type
Written statements
Date
21 January 2020
Reference
HCWS48
House
House of Commons

My Lords, I can see by the size of the exodus from the Chamber that many may regard this as a dry, technical report, but it is in fact a revealing tale of how complacency on the part of the statistics authorities and opportunism on the part of Governments have...

Member
Lord Forsyth of Drumlean (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
1 July 2019
Reference
798 cc1241-6
House
House of Lords

My Lords, we live in strange political times. I find myself in complete agreement with everything that the noble Lord, Lord Forsyth, said. I think that I speak for the rest of the Economic Affairs Committee in acknowledging his skill as a conciliator—the House will be very familiar with that—which...

Member
Lord Darling of Roulanish (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
1 July 2019
Reference
798 cc1246-7
House
House of Lords

My Lords, my noble friend Lord Forsyth has achieved a notable success in making statistics both interesting and controversial. Normally there is nothing so dry as statistics, but he has demonstrated by his speech, the committee by its report and the noble Lord, Lord Darling, by his speech that statistics...

Member
Lord Tugendhat (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
1 July 2019
Reference
798 cc1247-8
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I declare an interest: in two weeks’ time, I begin to receive a Civil Service pension that will be uprated by the consumer prices index.

I congratulate the noble Lord, Lord Forsyth, and his committee on a rigorous and high-quality report, and on securing this timely debate. Public confidence...

Member
Lord Macpherson of Earl's Court (Crossbench)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
1 July 2019
Reference
798 cc1248-1250
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I begin by referring to a remark made by the noble Lord, Lord Macpherson, about the confidence that people must have in statistics. I was on the Retail Prices Index Advisory Committee for many years when I was at the TUC. I draw attention to the fact that...

Member
Lord Lea of Crondall (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
1 July 2019
Reference
798 cc1249-1252
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I support this report from my noble friend Lord Forsyth and his committee. There is very little that my noble friend and I disagree on. He trained me well when I was his PPS many years ago and I fully support the thrust of this report. The governance...

Member
Baroness Browning (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
1 July 2019
Reference
798 c1251
House
House of Lords

I am grateful to my noble friend. That may well be the case, but they did introduce a new use of CPI with National Savings.

Member
Lord Forsyth of Drumlean (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
1 July 2019
Reference
798 c1251
House
House of Lords

Indeed. I used the phrase “sleight of hand” quite deliberately. Clearly, there needs to be some fundamental change here. The legal basis for the change is well set out in my noble friend’s report. I find it rather strange to be debating whether something that has been proven in law...

Member
Baroness Browning (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
1 July 2019
Reference
798 cc1251-3
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I too thank the noble Lord, Lord Forsyth, for securing this debate and chairing the committee so effectively. I found the inquiry rather a strange experience to begin. I had spent almost 20 years in the Treasury worrying about how to control inflation, yet in this inquiry we...

Member
Lord Burns (Crossbench)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
1 July 2019
Reference
798 cc1253-5
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I pay tribute to my noble friend Lord Forsyth, who has been a doughty campaigner on this critical issue.

It is a universally acknowledged fact that inflation is not a glamorous topic; nevertheless, it runs through and buttresses almost all our spending activities. From Treasury bonds to train tickets,...

Member
Lord Suri (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
1 July 2019
Reference
798 cc1255-6
House
House of Lords

My Lords, earlier today, the House confirmed my P45 from membership of the Economic Affairs Committee. I greatly enjoyed working under the chairmanship first of the noble Lord, Lord Hollick, and latterly that of the noble Lord, Lord Forsyth. It was also an exquisite pleasure to note the conversion of...

Member
Lord Turnbull (Crossbench)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
1 July 2019
Reference
798 cc1256-7
House
House of Lords

My Lords, although I attributed possible motive to the Bank and the Treasury, I said that my main concern was the lack of authority to put this adjective in front of it to say that it was discredited. On what basis can officials brief the press that the RPI is...

Member
Lord Lea of Crondall (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
1 July 2019
Reference
798 c1257
House
House of Lords

The basis on which that was done was that the statistics authority said it was flawed; that, I thought, was sufficient. Anyway, it said it would go on publishing the RPI and no longer designate it as a “national statistic” but rather, treat it as a legacy measure, with no...

Member
Lord Turnbull (Crossbench)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
1 July 2019
Reference
798 cc1257-8
House
House of Lords

Will the noble Lord explain something to me? I do not understand his contention that one of the main reasons why RPI is discredited is that if something goes up by 25% and then comes down by 25%, it does not end up where it started. If any figure goes...

Member
Lord Reid of Cardowan (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
1 July 2019
Reference
798 c1258
House
House of Lords

I think the noble Lord should go away and write this down on a piece of paper—I think he will find that it does not end up where it started.

Member
Lord Turnbull (Crossbench)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
1 July 2019
Reference
798 c1258
House
House of Lords

I said it does not. In other words, it fails the time reversibility test. If it goes up by 25% and then comes down by 25%, it ought to end up where it was before, but the price level is not the same. We believe that if the ONS is...

Member
Lord Turnbull (Crossbench)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
1 July 2019
Reference
798 cc1258-9
House
House of Lords