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Queen's speech debate (second day) on home affairs and justice.

Lead member
Jack Straw
Answering member
David Davis
Department
Home Office; Ministry of Justice
Type
Queen's speech debates
Date
7 November 2007
Reference
467 c143-237
House
House of Commons

As the right hon. Gentleman wishes to increase the length of time for which people are detained without trial or charge, is he going to let a lot of proven criminals out of prison in order to make the places available, given that over the past 10 years he clearly...

Member
Lord Redwood (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
7 November 2007
Reference
467 c143
House
House of Commons

It gives me great pleasure to open this debate on the Gracious Speech. That speech outlined a number of Bills and proposals, led by my right hon. Friend the Home Secretary and myself, which will affect the lives of the British people in many ways. Among them are the Criminal...

Member
Jack Straw (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
7 November 2007
Reference
467 c143
House
House of Commons

If the hon. Gentleman will allow me, I shall make a tiny bit more progress. I was reflecting over the weekend about quite the extent to which this country has changed for the better since my first speech from the Treasury Bench on the Loyal Address in May 1997. Although...

Member
Jack Straw (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
7 November 2007
Reference
467 c144-5
House
House of Commons

If the right hon. Gentleman does not mind my saying so, that is not up to his usual standard. [Hon. Members: ““It is.””] He might want to divide the House on that question. If he will contain himself, I will come to the issue of prisons and give way to...

Member
Jack Straw (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
7 November 2007
Reference
467 c144
House
House of Commons

My right hon. Friend does not need to go to a bookshop for it, because she has learnt it off by heart, as I learn her speeches by heart. She will, of course, give a rendition of part of that speech when she winds up later. All the changes that...

Member
Jack Straw (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
7 November 2007
Reference
467 c146
House
House of Commons

Available at all good bookshops.

Member
Baroness Smith of Malvern (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
7 November 2007
Reference
467 c146
House
House of Commons

There are two aspects to that issue. In general terms, most—although not all—rights are contingent on duties and responsibilities. There is a vast body of jurisprudential study behind that. Secondly, there are some rights that are fundamental in a free and democratic society, such as the right to a fair...

Member
Jack Straw (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
7 November 2007
Reference
467 c146
House
House of Commons

When the Lord Chancellor links responsibilities to rights, is he implying that someone other than a court of law can say to an individual that they have not behaved sufficiently responsibly to have the right of free speech, or of assembly? How can rights be made contingent on responsibilities, or...

Member
Lord Beith (Liberal Democrat)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
7 November 2007
Reference
467 c146
House
House of Commons

May I say to the hon. Gentleman that I am, of course, aware of this concern and we are trying to deal with it? I think that I am right in saying—I shall correct the record later if I am wrong—that Italy was one of the three countries with which...

Member
Jack Straw (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
7 November 2007
Reference
467 c145-6
House
House of Commons

Is the Secretary of State aware that something that has bothered people on both sides of the House, not least the former Prime Minister, Tony Blair, is the inability to remove from this country foreign criminals who pose a danger to other members of society? Given Italy's success in passing...

Member
Julian Lewis (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
7 November 2007
Reference
467 c145
House
House of Commons

I hope very much that it will be possible to introduce that Bill, but we could not be absolutely certain that there would be time. For that reason, it was omitted from the Gracious Speech. However, I promise the hon. Gentleman and the whole Opposition that if they co-operate with...

Member
Jack Straw (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
7 November 2007
Reference
467 c147
House
House of Commons

There is a competition, as there always is among the Liberal Democrats. I shall give way to the more senior one.

Member
Jack Straw (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
7 November 2007
Reference
467 c147
House
House of Commons

Following the exchange between the Secretary of State for Justice and my right hon. Friend the Member for Berwick-upon-Tweed (Mr. Beith), do I understand that, irrespective of any future discussion, the Government will defend the European convention on human rights absolutely? Do I understand that the Government will not wobble...

Member
Simon Hughes (Liberal Democrat)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
7 November 2007
Reference
467 c147
House
House of Commons

I have made it clear to the point of exhaustion that we are going to stick to the convention. Of course we are; we have no proposal to resile from it—that proposal came from parts, but not all, of the Opposition. Nor do we have any proposal to derogate; the...

Member
Jack Straw (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
7 November 2007
Reference
467 c147
House
House of Commons

I should like to tease out what the Lord Chancellor has said. As I understand it, he wants his Bill of Rights and responsibilities, which will go out for discussion, to provide a gloss and interpretation by which the Human Rights Act 1998 can be looked at. Is that what...

Member
Dominic Grieve (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
7 November 2007
Reference
467 c147
House
House of Commons

The hon. Gentleman has taken a very consistent approach to the incorporation of the 1998 Act, and has been absolutely firm on the issue. Indeed, when asked whether a Conservative version of a British Bill of Rights would make it easier to deport suspected terrorists to countries that might torture...

Member
Jack Straw (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
7 November 2007
Reference
467 c147-8
House
House of Commons

While my right hon. Friend is talking about rights and responsibilities—I hope that I am not taking him too far away from his speech—may I ask him about victims, particularly children, who cannot express either rights or responsibilities and who are victims of domestic violence? Can we as a Government...

Member
Kali Mountford (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
7 November 2007
Reference
467 c148
House
House of Commons

I entirely agree with my hon. Friend. A few days ago, my right hon. Friend the Home Secretary and I attended a wonderful ceremony—the justice awards—where awards were given out to criminal justice practitioners who have made significant progress in these areas. However, all of them, especially those at the...

Member
Jack Straw (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
7 November 2007
Reference
467 c148
House
House of Commons

Clearly, my right hon. Friend has to find a consensus between this House and the other chamber to get such legislation through. Does he accept that the way to meet the desires of both Houses is a system of indirect elections to the second chamber, which would mean that we...

Member
Tom Levitt (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
7 November 2007
Reference
467 c149
House
House of Commons