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Statement on legislative consent. Lords third reading. Amendments 1 to 17 agreed to. Bill passed and returned to the Commons with amendments.

Lead member
Lord Parkinson of Whitley Bay
Answering member
Lord Stevenson of Balmacara
Department
Department for Culture, Media and Sport
Type
Debates on bills
Notes
Scottish and Welsh legislative consent granted.
Date
6 September 2023
Reference
832 cc446-476
House
House of Lords

Moved by

Lord Parkinson of Whitley Bay

15: Clause 162, page 144, line 29, at end insert—

““age assurance” means age verification or age estimation;”

Member’s explanatory statement

This amendment adds a definition of “age assurance” into this Clause.

Member
Lord Parkinson of Whitley Bay (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
6 September 2023
Reference
832 c461
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I will make a brief statement on the devolution status of the Bill. I am pleased to inform your Lordships’ House that both the Scottish Parliament and Senedd Cymru have voted to grant consent for all the relevant provisions. For Scotland, these provisions are the power to amend...

Member
Lord Parkinson of Whitley Bay (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
6 September 2023
Reference
832 c447
House
House of Lords

Moved by

Lord Parkinson of Whitley Bay

1: Clause 44, page 45, line 30, leave out from “must” to end of line 31 and insert “, as soon as reasonably practicable, be published and laid before Parliament.”

Member’s explanatory statement

This amendment provides that, in addition to publishing a direction under this Clause, the...

Member
Lord Parkinson of Whitley Bay (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
6 September 2023
Reference
832 c447
House
House of Lords

My Lords, His Majesty’s Government have listened carefully to the views expressed in Committee and on Report and

have tabled amendments to the Bill to address concerns raised by noble Lords. Let me first again express my gratitude to my noble friend Lady Stowell of Beeston for her constructive engagement...

Member
Lord Parkinson of Whitley Bay (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
6 September 2023
Reference
832 cc447-450
House
House of Lords

I am very surprised that the Minister’s speech did not accede to the recommendations from the Delegated Powers and Regulatory Reform Committee, published last week, in the report we made after we were forced to meet during the Recess because of the Government’s failure with this Bill. From his private...

Member
Lord Rooker (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
6 September 2023
Reference
832 c450
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I am very concerned to hear the contribution from the noble Lord, Lord Rooker. I certainly look forward to hearing what the Minister says in reply. I confess that I was not aware of the Delegated Powers and Regulatory Powers Committee’s report to which he referred, and I...

Member
Baroness Stowell of Beeston (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
6 September 2023
Reference
832 cc450-1
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I, too, thank the Minister for his engagement and for the amendments he has tabled at various stages throughout the passage of the Bill.

Amendment 15 provides a definition:

““age assurance” means age verification or age estimation”.

When the Minister winds up, could he provide details of the framework or timetable...

Member
Baroness Ritchie of Downpatrick (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
6 September 2023
Reference
832 c451
House
House of Lords

My Lords, as this is a new stage of the Bill, I need to refer again to my entry in the register of interests. I have no current financial interest in any of the regulated companies for which I used to work, in one of which I held a senior...

Member
Lord Allan of Hallam (Liberal Democrat)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
6 September 2023
Reference
832 cc451-3
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I, too, join noble Lords in thanking the Minister for the way in which he has addressed my concerns about aspects of the Bill and has wanted to enhance particularly the protection of women and girls from the kind of threats that they experience online. I really feel...

Member
Baroness Kennedy of the Shaws (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
6 September 2023
Reference
832 c453
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I, too, thank the Minister for the great improvements that the Government have made to the Secretary of State’s powers in the Bill during its passage through this House. I rise to speak briefly today to praise the Government’s new Amendments 1 and 2 to Clause 44. As...

Member
Viscount Colville of Culross (Crossbench)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
6 September 2023
Reference
832 c453
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I welcome Amendments 5 and 6, as well as the amendments that reflect the work done and comments made in earlier stages of this debate by the noble Baroness, Lady Kennedy. Of course, we are not quite there yet with this Bill, but we are well on the...

Member
Baroness Morgan of Cotes (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
6 September 2023
Reference
832 c454
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I thank the Minister for his introduction today and also for his letter which set out the reasons and the very welcome amendments that he has tabled today. First, I must congratulate the noble Baroness, Lady Stowell, for her persistence in pushing amendments of this kind to Clause...

Member
Lord Clement-Jones (Liberal Democrat)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
6 September 2023
Reference
832 cc454-5
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I do not know how everyone has spent their summer, but this feels a bit like we have been working on a mammoth jigsaw puzzle and we are now putting in the final pieces. At times, through the course of this Bill, it has felt like doing a...

Member
Lord Knight of Weymouth (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
6 September 2023
Reference
832 cc455-6
House
House of Lords

My Lords, let me first address the points made by the noble Lord, Lord Rooker. I am afraid that, like my noble friend Lady Stowell of Beeston, I was not aware of the report of your Lordships’ committee. Unlike her, I should have been. I have checked with my private...

Member
Lord Parkinson of Whitley Bay (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
6 September 2023
Reference
832 c456
House
House of Lords

The report was published on 31 August. It so happens that the committee has been forced to meet in an emergency session tomorrow morning because of government amendments that have been tabled to the levelling-up Bill, which will be debated next Wednesday, that require a report on the delegated powers,...

Member
Lord Rooker (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
6 September 2023
Reference
832 c456
House
House of Lords

The committee will have a reply from me before it meets tomorrow. Again, I apologise. It should not be up to the committee to let the Minister know; I ought to have known about it.

I am very grateful to noble Lords for their support of the amendments that we have...

Member
Lord Parkinson of Whitley Bay (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
6 September 2023
Reference
832 cc456-8
House
House of Lords

Will my noble friend draw attention to the part of Clause 122 that says that Ofcom cannot issue a requirement which is not technically feasible, as he has just said? That does not appear in the text of the clause, and it creates a potential conflict. Even if the requirement...

Member
Lord Moylan (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
6 September 2023
Reference
832 c458
House
House of Lords

It has to meet minimum standards of accuracy and must have privacy safeguards in place. The clause talks about those in a positive sense, which sets out the expectation. I am happy to make clear, as I have, what that means: if the appropriate technology does not exist that meets...

Member
Lord Parkinson of Whitley Bay (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
6 September 2023
Reference
832 c458
House
House of Lords

Moved by

Lord Parkinson of Whitley Bay

2: Clause 44, page 45, line 31, at end insert—

“(7A) If the Secretary of State considers that publishing and laying before Parliament a direction given under this section would be against the interests of national security, public safety or relations with the government of a...

Member
Lord Parkinson of Whitley Bay (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
6 September 2023
Reference
832 c459
House
House of Lords