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Statement on the proposed European directive on attacks against information systems.

Lead member
James Brokenshire
Department
Home Office
Type
Ministerial statements
Date
3 February 2011
Reference
522 c1051-8
House
House of Commons

The Minister refers to the Council of Europe convention, which covers 47 countries plus the United States and other countries, but what added value does the directive have when compared with that convention? If the directive is inadequately drafted, as my hon. Friend the Member for Stone (Mr Cash) says...

Member
Christopher Chope (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
3 February 2011
Reference
522 c1057
House
House of Commons

With permission, Mr Speaker, I would like to make a statement on the proposed European directive on attacks against information systems, which we have decided to opt in to. Hon. Members will not need me to tell them how much we benefit from the services that are now available online....

Member
James Brokenshire (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
3 February 2011
Reference
522 c1051-2
House
House of Commons

Will the Minister help me on a technical point? I understand that the directive is a repeal-and-replace measure; it repeals a directive to which the UK is party and replaces it with a new version. If the UK had opted out of the directive—I am glad that it has not—would...

Member
Julian Huppert (Liberal Democrat)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
3 February 2011
Reference
522 c1057
House
House of Commons

In Dover, we see human trafficking and all too often the evil perpetrated by international gangs in the physical sphere. We should sign up to directives only when we get information-sharing and international assistance, because crime knows no borders, but can the Minister reassure the House that there will be...

Member
Charlie Elphicke (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
3 February 2011
Reference
522 c1058
House
House of Commons

I am very grateful for the hon. Gentleman's question, which transcends this directive, which is a Title V measure, as contrasted with the third pillar measures that are subject to the potential block opt-out in 2014. I hesitate to go into the technicalities, but we have clearly opted in to...

Member
James Brokenshire (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
3 February 2011
Reference
522 c1057-8
House
House of Commons

I have been a victim of mobile telephone fraud, so will the directive have the scope to deal with cybercrime in connection with such fraud?

Member
Neil Carmichael (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
3 February 2011
Reference
522 c1058
House
House of Commons

My hon. Friend makes a very important point, and, in striking the right balance, we approach those issues with the rights of the individual's freedoms and liberties very much at the forefront of this Government's mind. We believe that the directive is important and will add value, but we will...

Member
James Brokenshire (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
3 February 2011
Reference
522 c1058
House
House of Commons

The directive is very much focused on computers and computer systems, rather than on telephones and mobiles, but, as telephone calls and Skype add to computers' ability to facilitate contact, such communication might be brought within the scope of the directive.

Member
James Brokenshire (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
3 February 2011
Reference
522 c1058
House
House of Commons

As I have said, we keep the position on the human trafficking directive under review. I think that the directive that we are considering today has clear benefits and builds on the work of the Council of Europe's convention on cybercrime, which, interestingly, the previous Government signed up to in...

Member
James Brokenshire (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
3 February 2011
Reference
522 c1056
House
House of Commons

Does the Minister agree that by opting in to the directive we will strengthen the UK's leadership role in the fight against cybercrime and that, were the UK to sign up to the EU directive on human trafficking, we could provide additional leadership in that field as well?

Member
Tom Brake (Liberal Democrat)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
3 February 2011
Reference
522 c1056
House
House of Commons

The directive builds on the convention and deals with certain additional issues, such as the response that other EU countries provide to requests for information on cyber-related attacks and cybercrimes, so we think that it has important benefits. It is precisely because of those practical benefits that we think it...

Member
James Brokenshire (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
3 February 2011
Reference
522 c1057
House
House of Commons

My hon. Friend sums up the measure very well. It is very much focused on practical co-operation and on ensuring common standards, which, building on co-operation, better information and mutual assurance, provide practical benefits for the United Kingdom, given the challenges that we face from cybercrime committed not only in...

Member
James Brokenshire (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
3 February 2011
Reference
522 c1056
House
House of Commons

Will the Minister confirm that the measure is not about sovereignty, but about practical co-operation that is vital to our national interests?

Member
Baroness Fullbrook (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
3 February 2011
Reference
522 c1056
House
House of Commons

The directive is focused on the criminality and on cyber-attacks. It includes provisions on mutual co-operation, but it does not set the sort of framework to which my hon. Friend refers.

Member
James Brokenshire (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
3 February 2011
Reference
522 c1056
House
House of Commons

Nowadays, investigators need access to current and historical data in order to achieve a successful prosecution in cybercrime and other internet crimes. In the past, the United Kingdom wanted seven years to be the key measure throughout Europe of the time that IT providers, banks and so on held back-data,...

Member
Ben Wallace (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
3 February 2011
Reference
522 c1056
House
House of Commons

My hon. Friend makes an important point about the need for international co-operation. It is one of the reasons that we have ratified the European convention on cybercrime, which has in fact been signed up to by a number of countries outside Europe, including the United States. We take the...

Member
James Brokenshire (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
3 February 2011
Reference
522 c1056
House
House of Commons

I welcome the statement, but cybercrime does not recognise international or EU boundaries, as my hon. Friend recognises, so will he confirm that there is nothing in the directive that will prevent us from seeking to co-operate with other Commonwealth countries, our friends in the United States and other like-minded...

Member
Bob Blackman (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
3 February 2011
Reference
522 c1056
House
House of Commons

I simply do not agree with my hon. Friend's analysis. We have allowed scrutiny of the approach and of the directive. I hear his point, but the implementation of the directive will take place in this country, and I think that the importance of cross-border working on an issue such...

Member
James Brokenshire (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
3 February 2011
Reference
522 c1055
House
House of Commons

Does the Minister not understand that when Britain is dilatory in signing up to new directives and pieces of legislation, particularly those which have obvious cross-border relevance, it is deleterious to the British interest, because we are unable to take part in the full process of developing the policy? What...

Member
Chris Bryant (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
3 February 2011
Reference
522 c1055
House
House of Commons