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The hon. Gentleman must realise that a number of people will build up £60,000 in their pension funds, and £15,000 is 25 per cent. of that. People with pension funds of that size will not be in a financial position to seek the expertise of members of the Institute of...

Member
Mark Hoban (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
4 July 2006
Reference
448 c720
House
House of Commons

I am grateful to my right hon. Friend for putting me back on track—as, indeed, did you, Madam Deputy Speaker. He has made an important point. We are asking taxpayers to examine the rules carefully, and to draw their own conclusions about whether they may be recycling lump sums. The...

Member
Mark Hoban (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
4 July 2006
Reference
448 c720
House
House of Commons

I shall explain in a moment how we might provide that certainty, but I think the Economic Secretary wants to ““envisage”” something first.

Member
Mark Hoban (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
4 July 2006
Reference
448 c720
House
House of Commons

Was it ““neo-classical post-endogenous growth cycle””, or a combination of those words in no particular order? I consulted Professor Davidson’s biography to see whether he had written anything about economics, but he had refrained from doing so, dealing entirely with semantics, causes and actions.

Member
Mark Hoban (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
4 July 2006
Reference
448 c719
House
House of Commons

I give way to my right hon. Friend.

Member
Mark Hoban (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
4 July 2006
Reference
448 c720
House
House of Commons

Will my hon. Friend again explain to the Minister that once tax law is complicated to the extent that it is beyond the ken of ordinary people, they cease to believe in its fairness? There is a fundamental problem with the kind of complication with which he has delighted us...

Member
Lord Deben (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
4 July 2006
Reference
448 c720
House
House of Commons

Will my hon. Friend give way? I may be able to help him to return to the new clause.

Member
Lord Deben (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
4 July 2006
Reference
448 c720
House
House of Commons

What the Economic Secretary has said demonstrates why the position is not as clear as the hon. Member for Wolverhampton, South-West suggested. Let me now deal with an issue that relates to amendments Nos. 62 and 14. The Chartered Institute of Taxation said that it was happy with both the...

Member
Mark Hoban (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
4 July 2006
Reference
448 c721-2
House
House of Commons

Let me give the hon. Gentleman some further reassurance. We have debated the issue before, and I shall return to it shortly, but let me give him a second quotation from the Chartered Institute of Taxation:"““HMRC have consulted effectively on these changes; the resulting rules seek to separate structured tax...

Member
Ed Balls (Labour; Co-operative Party)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
4 July 2006
Reference
448 c721
House
House of Commons

What does the hon. Gentleman believe the minimum retirement income should be, as specified in new clause 3?

Member
Rob Marris (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
4 July 2006
Reference
448 c723
House
House of Commons

I shall make a couple of brief observations in support of new clause 3, proposed by my hon. Friend the Member for Fareham (Mr. Hoban). His concluding comments about the need for consistency and clarity were well made. We are entering a new era for pensions in this country. Following...

Member
Philip Dunne (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
4 July 2006
Reference
448 c722-3
House
House of Commons

I shall resist the temptation to return to past debates. I merely wanted to give some reassurance to the hon. Gentleman and the right hon. Member for Suffolk, Coastal (Mr. Gummer). The hon. Gentleman quoted a number of advisers who may or may not have been involved in the marketing...

Member
Ed Balls (Labour; Co-operative Party)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
4 July 2006
Reference
448 c720-1
House
House of Commons

I am grateful for the quotation. I shall consider the issue of certainty in a moment.

Member
Mark Hoban (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
4 July 2006
Reference
448 c721
House
House of Commons

The hon. Gentleman seems to be hovering on the verge of an intervention. Does he wish to intervene again?

Member
Mark Hoban (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
4 July 2006
Reference
448 c721
House
House of Commons

I am grateful to the hon. Gentleman for his generosity. Perhaps I am not understanding him correctly: I cannot see what is so complicated about knowing whether one has reinvested a lump sum from a pension scheme, returning it to the pension scheme.

Member
Rob Marris (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
4 July 2006
Reference
448 c721
House
House of Commons

If it is so clear, why are 21 examples and 28 pages of guidance necessary? However, let me take up something that the Economic Secretary said. Clause 159 is quite short and has a broad application, but its impact is mitigated by the 28 pages of guidance, which are very...

Member
Mark Hoban (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
4 July 2006
Reference
448 c721
House
House of Commons

I thank Members for their contributions, and I emphasise that my party is not asking for special tax privileges for trusts. All we are saying is that the Government should not slap punitive new tax charges on trusts, the vast majority of which are set up for completely non tax-related...

Member
Theresa Villiers (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
4 July 2006
Reference
448 c700-1
House
House of Commons

The hon. Lady continues to demonstrate her lack of understanding of the complexity of the consultation with regard to definitions of disability, the range of organisations that took part in it, and my acknowledgement that some of those organisations—some of them—did not take the same view as us, and that...

Member
Baroness Primarolo (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
4 July 2006
Reference
448 c699-700
House
House of Commons

The right hon. Lady said that she wished to have evidence of representations having been made to the Treasury on the definition of disability. I refer her to a document I have in my hand, ““Response to Inland Revenue proposals: modernising the tax system for trusts”” by the Disability Alliance,...

Member
Theresa Villiers (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
4 July 2006
Reference
448 c699
House
House of Commons

We dealt with fluctuating conditions in Committee, and I made it absolutely clear to the hon. Lady then what would happen in such circumstances. If she cannot remember that, I cannot help her, but I will send her the reference.

Member
Baroness Primarolo (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
4 July 2006
Reference
448 c699
House
House of Commons