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My Lords, the noble Viscount raises an interesting question, but those penalties come under by-laws, which is quite normal in transport activities, such as by-laws on the railways, which fix penalties for fare evasion and other things. I am not aware of who approves them, but there needs to be...

Member
Lord Berkeley (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
10 November 2008
Reference
705 c536
House
House of Lords

moved Amendment No. 81A: 81A: Clause 52, page 30, line 9, after ““surveying”” insert ““, investigating”” The noble Lord said: My Lords, I shall speak also to Amendments Nos. 81B to 81D. We are moving now to Chapter 3—““Assistance for applicants and others””—and, in particular, Clause 52, which is concerned...

Member
Lord Berkeley (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
10 November 2008
Reference
705 c488-9
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I shall try to address comprehensively Amendment No. 69A, moved by the noble Lord, Lord Jenkin. I shall set the scene for a moment by saying that the amendment would amend the Planning and Compulsory Purchase Act 2004 to ensure that the policy set out in a regional...

Member
Lord Patel of Bradford (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
10 November 2008
Reference
705 c484-6
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I thought that we were dealing with the unforeseeable as well as the foreseeable. I readily acknowledge and had already acknowledged the dilemma that I presented myself with as to whether the Bill should be changed. I had wrestled with the and/or issue for quite some time. The...

Member
Baroness Hamwee (Liberal Democrat)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
10 November 2008
Reference
705 c467-8
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I find this amendment rather interesting, because the noble Baroness, Lady Hamwee, is trying to put a limit of 50,000 air transport movements of passenger aircraft a year into the same subsection of the Bill where there is a limit of 10,000 air transport movements of cargo aircraft...

Member
Lord Berkeley (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
10 November 2008
Reference
705 c466
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I am not at all surprised that the noble Baroness rose to her feet at that point. There are practical difficulties and the procedural rules have to be as generous and sufficient as possible, but let me think how we might best address that issue. The IPC would...

Member
Baroness Andrews (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
10 November 2008
Reference
705 c494
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I support this amendment and indeed tabled a similar one in Committee. As other noble Lords have said, it provides a way of linking in legislative terms the big projects with all those that fall below it and generally come under the term of projects that people do...

Member
Lord Berkeley (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
10 November 2008
Reference
705 c483
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I warmly welcome the government amendments, which I respectfully suggest address the issues raised in Committee. I direct the House’s attention to the terms of Amendment No. 43, which would insert new provisions into Clause 12 and in particular to proposed subsection (1C), which states: "““For the avoidance...

Member
Lord Boyd of Duncansby (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
10 November 2008
Reference
705 c446-7
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I thank the noble Lord for his responses. He categorically said that the Air Transport White Paper would go through the consultation process again. Given that the evidence that was used in the original policy was called into question by the Sustainable Development Commission, and it has called...

Member
Earl Cathcart (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
10 November 2008
Reference
705 c449
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I said that there will be a fresh consultation in respect of any airport’s national policy statement. I believe that incorporates the noble Earl’s point. On Question, amendment agreed to.

Member
Lord Adonis (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
10 November 2008
Reference
705 c449
House
House of Lords

moved Amendments Nos. 43 to 45: 43: Clause 12, page 6, line 23, at end insert— ““(1A) But subsection (1) does not apply in relation to a pre-commencement statement if the Secretary of State thinks that— (a) since the time when the statement was first issued or (if later) the...

Member
Lord Adonis (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
10 November 2008
Reference
705 c449
House
House of Lords

moved Amendments Nos. 47 to 51: 47: Clause 13, page 7, line 2, leave out ““review”” and insert ““carry out a review of all or part of”” 48: Clause 13, page 7, line 5, leave out ““review the statement”” and insert ““carry out the review”” 49: Clause 13, page 7,...

Member
Lord Hunt of Kings Heath (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
10 November 2008
Reference
705 c450
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I am most grateful to the noble Lord for giving way. He clearly has a point as regards the parliamentary process. I should think very few pre-commencement statements have ever been through anything like that. On consultation of local interests and other stakeholders, the anxiety is that the...

Member
Lord Jenkin of Roding (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
10 November 2008
Reference
705 c448
House
House of Lords

My Lords, the consultation requirements set out in Clauses 7 and 8 are substantial. The elephant in the Chamber is the Air Transport White Paper. That issue is giving rise to a good deal of concern and it might be helpful if I state categorically that we intend to produce...

Member
Lord Adonis (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
10 November 2008
Reference
705 c448-9
House
House of Lords

My Lords, will the Minister clarify something for me, so that I understand it perfectly? Is the noble Lord saying that any PPG, PPS or White Paper that is now going to become a national policy statement will have to undergo fresh consultation in the light of the change that...

Member
Lord Cameron of Dillington (Crossbench)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
10 November 2008
Reference
705 c449
House
House of Lords

My Lords, it would need to undergo fresh consultation if the consultation that had been conducted so far did not meet the terms of the Bill.

Member
Lord Adonis (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
10 November 2008
Reference
705 c449
House
House of Lords

moved Amendment No. 52: 52: Clause 14, page 7, line 38, leave out ““above ground”” The noble Duke said: My Lords, the purpose of my amendment is to determine whether it is the Government’s intention that all necessary alternatives for electric lines are clearly within the powers of the Infrastructure...

Member
Duke of Montrose (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
10 November 2008
Reference
705 c450-1
House
House of Lords

My Lords, Amendment No. 55 concerns Clause 15, relating to the principles established under Clause 14(1) on, "““the construction or extension of a generating station””." The amendment refers to page 8, line 41, and proposes to leave out ““or Wales””; in other words, the powers of IPC would be restricted...

Member
Lord Livsey of Talgarth (Liberal Democrat)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
10 November 2008
Reference
705 c451-3
House
House of Lords

My Lords, there is very little that the noble Lord left unsaid, but I add my voice in support of this moderate and reasonably framed amendment. I am sure that we are at one on the importance of preserving our heritage. There is no issue there. In Committee, the Minister...

Member
Lord Low of Dalston (Crossbench)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
10 November 2008
Reference
705 c474
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I strongly support my noble friend’s reasonable amendment. The harm that could be done would be irrevocable; that is the problem. I implore the Minister to provide the safeguards that he seeks.

Member
Baroness Whitaker (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
10 November 2008
Reference
705 c474
House
House of Lords