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New clause 44 (Maximum economic recovery in the North Sea) debated and withdrawn. New clause 45 (Electricity Storage Capacity) negatived on question. New clause 46 (Carbon capture, usage and storage: spending commitment), discussed with new clause 47 (Timeline for track 2 carbon capture, use and storage projects), debated and withdrawn....

Lead member
Andrew Bowie
Answering member
Lord Whitehead
Department
Department for Energy Security and Net Zero
Type
Debates on bills; Public Bill Committee proceedings
Committee
Energy Bill (HL) Committee
Date
27 June 2023
House
House of Commons

I beg to move,

That this House has considered local consent for fracking.

It is a pleasure to serve under your chairmanship, Mr Paisley. I thank colleagues who have sponsored the debate, particularly my hon. Friend the Member for Bath (Wera Hobhouse), who joins me here. I was grateful to receive cross-party...

Member
Helen Morgan (Liberal Democrat)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
15 November 2022
Reference
722 c201WH
House
House of Commons

I very much welcome the debate and congratulate the hon. Lady on securing it. I just want to make it clear that there is somebody from the Government Front Bench here: I am sitting here and listening carefully to everything she says.

Member
George Freeman (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
15 November 2022
Reference
722 c201WH
House
House of Commons

I thank the Minister for that intervention, but I was referring to Back Benchers in my previous comment.

The former Secretary of State for Business, Energy and Industrial Strategy, the right hon. Member for North East Somerset (Mr Rees-Mogg), argued that fracking would only happen with local consent, but repeatedly declined...

Member
Helen Morgan (Liberal Democrat)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
15 November 2022
Reference
722 cc201-4WH
House
House of Commons

It is always a pleasure to serve under your chairmanship, Mr Paisley. You are a friend and colleague, but also a very impartial Chair. Everybody is impartial, by the way, but you are impartial in giving me the same chance as everybody else and not a better chance—that is the...

Member
Jim Shannon (Democratic Unionist Party)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
15 November 2022
Reference
722 cc204-5WH
House
House of Commons

My hon. Friend touches on the two key issues: the safety of any extraction process and local consent. Does he agree that if any extraction method, whatever it might be, falls on those two bases, no Government should permit it to proceed?

Member
Gregory Campbell (Democratic Unionist Party)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
15 November 2022
Reference
722 c205WH
House
House of Commons

I fully and wholeheartedly agree. The hon. Member for North Shropshire referred to safety and danger in her contribution, which was significant. That cannot be ignored, and I hope to comment on it. My hon. Friend the Member for East Londonderry is absolutely right about where we are; the DUP...

Member
Jim Shannon (Democratic Unionist Party)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
15 November 2022
Reference
722 cc205-6WH
House
House of Commons

It is a pleasure to serve with you in the Chair, Mr Paisley. I echo the words of the hon. Member for Strangford (Jim Shannon) about my hon. Friend the Member for North Shropshire (Helen Morgan) being such a powerful advocate for her local communities in North Shropshire. I thank...

Member
Wera Hobhouse (Liberal Democrat)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
15 November 2022
Reference
722 cc206-8WH
House
House of Commons

It is a pleasure to see you in the Chair, Mr Paisley, and to see the Minister. I do not think we have gone head to head across the Chamber before. It is a little disappointing that the Minister for Climate, the right hon. Member for Beverley and Holderness (Graham...

Member
Kerry McCarthy (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
15 November 2022
Reference
722 c208WH
House
House of Commons

Does the hon. Lady agree that we must continue to put pressure on the Government to end fracking once and for all or it might come back under the next Government—and who knows when that will come along?

Member
Wera Hobhouse (Liberal Democrat)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
15 November 2022
Reference
722 c209WH
House
House of Commons

Exactly. Because it is not clear why the last Prime Minister felt obliged to lift the ban on fracking, despite all the arguments against it, we will always have that scintilla of doubt that it has not completely gone away. There was no logic to her decision, so—who knows?—perhaps equally...

Member
Kerry McCarthy (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
15 November 2022
Reference
722 cc209-210WH
House
House of Commons

In my contribution, I made the point that it cannot be the energy companies themselves holding the discussions with local people because, by their very nature, they will have a bias; it has to be an independent body or person going door to door collecting opinions from individuals one to...

Member
Jim Shannon (Democratic Unionist Party)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
15 November 2022
Reference
722 c210WH
House
House of Commons

That is the case, is it not? It seems like a futile exercise—I do not think there is any community in the country that actually wants fracking to happen—but the hon. Gentleman is quite right that the energy companies, which have a vested interest in fracking, cannot be in charge...

Member
Kerry McCarthy (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
15 November 2022
Reference
722 c210WH
House
House of Commons

Is this not also a sign that the Government are entirely behind the curve? When fracking was mooted a decade ago as a transition fuel, it might

have been something that could be considered, because the legislation at the time was aiming only for 80% renewable energy by 2050. Since...

Member
Wera Hobhouse (Liberal Democrat)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
15 November 2022
Reference
722 c210WH
House
House of Commons

I absolutely do agree. Fracking is certainly not greener and, as well as all the other reasons why we oppose it, it is not a cheaper source of energy, either.

The Minister for Climate, the right hon. Member for Beverley and Holderness, tried to gaslight the British public with his recent...

Member
Kerry McCarthy (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
15 November 2022
Reference
722 c211WH
House
House of Commons

It is a great pleasure to serve under your chairmanship, Mr Paisley, in the absence of the Minister for Climate, my right hon. Friend the Member for Beverley and Holderness (Graham Stuart), who is dealing with these very issues at COP27 today. I congratulate the hon. Member for North Shropshire...

Member
George Freeman (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
15 November 2022
Reference
722 cc211-3WH
House
House of Commons

The Minister talks about the UK’s leadership in renewables, which is positive. Should there not be a Government ambition to be an exporter of renewable energy, since we have so many opportunities to share that with Europe? Is that not a brilliant opportunity when we are talking about global Britain...

Member
Wera Hobhouse (Liberal Democrat)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
15 November 2022
Reference
722 c213WH
House
House of Commons

The hon. Lady makes an excellent point. Indeed, that is why the former Prime Minister, my right hon. Friend the Member for Uxbridge and South Ruislip (Boris Johnson), used to refer to the southern North sea as the Saudi Arabia of wind energy. That is precisely our ambition. First, we...

Member
George Freeman (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
15 November 2022
Reference
722 c213WH
House
House of Commons

I thank the Minister for his detailed, helpful and comprehensive response. I read in the paper over the weekend about some of the innovation across the world on which we can interact with others. I understand that Morocco has an abundance of green energy, and, if the press are correct,...

Member
Jim Shannon (Democratic Unionist Party)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
15 November 2022
Reference
722 c213WH
House
House of Commons

The hon. Member has made an important point. I will not attempt to answer it because I am not the Minister for Climate, but I will flag it with him and ask that the hon. Member gets a proper answer.

As well as our groundbreaking leadership in the transition of our...

Member
George Freeman (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
15 November 2022
Reference
722 cc213-4WH
House
House of Commons