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I thank the Minister for that Answer, but can he say when the report will be completed and published?

Asked by
Baroness Prashar (Crossbench)
Oral questions - 1st Supplementary
Status
Answered
Date
6 December 2022
Reference
826 c85
House
House of Lords

The report is still under evaluation. I am afraid there is no estimate at the moment for the production of the report.

Answered by
Lord Murray of Blidworth (Conservative)
Type
Oral answers to questions
Date
6 December 2022
Reference
826 c85
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I have twice recently through Written Questions tried to find out whether the Government will publish the report of the advisory committee. Both answers—which were almost identical—avoided answering the question. Could the Minister therefore tell us now whether the Government will publish this key report and, if not, why not?

Asked by
Baroness Lister of Burtersett (Labour)
Oral questions - Supplementary
Status
Answered
Date
6 December 2022
Reference
826 c85
House
House of Lords

As I said, the report is being considered and a decision on publication will be made in due course.

Answered by
Lord Murray of Blidworth (Conservative)
Type
Oral answers to questions
Date
6 December 2022
Reference
826 c85
House
House of Lords

My Lords, the British Dental Association is opposed to dental X-rays being used because of their inaccuracy. Other organisations such as the BMA agree. During the passage of what became Nationalities and Borders Act, the noble and learned Lord, Lord Stewart of Dirleton, the Minister at the time, acknowledged this lack of accuracy by saying that

“assessments are not of themselves accurate”.—[Official Report, 8/3/22; col. 1280.]

There was no dentist on the age estimation science advisory committee. Do the Government understand that both their own Minister and dentists disagree that this should be one of the methods used to assess age?

Asked by
Baroness Brinton (Liberal Democrat)
Oral questions - Supplementary
Status
Answered
Date
6 December 2022
Reference
826 cc85-6
House
House of Lords

The answer is no. By way of background, I remind the noble Baroness that, between 2016 and September 2022, there were 7,357 asylum cases where age was disputed and subsequently resolved, in which half the individuals—3,696—were found to be adults. At least 27 other European countries use scientific or medical methods as part of their age assessment process. The most common method by far internationally is the use of one or more X-rays, usually dental, wrist, clavicle or knee, although MRI scans, CT scans and physical or psychological examination by a doctor are also reported. The implementation of SAA across Europe varies enormously, with different methods or combinations of methods, data outputs and timing, and the use of negative interference.

Answered by
Lord Murray of Blidworth (Conservative)
Type
Oral answers to questions
Date
6 December 2022
Reference
826 c86
House
House of Lords

My Lords, given that 12 EU countries do not allow any asylum applications from Albania on the grounds that Albania is a democratic and aspirational country, why do we not do the same?

Asked by
Lord Bellingham (Conservative)
Oral questions - Supplementary
Status
Answered
Date
6 December 2022
Reference
826 c86
House
House of Lords

Although I am tempted to address my noble friend’s topic, which is slightly off the topic of this Question, I will say only that the response to the problem of Albanian young men crossing the channel is being considered speedily by the department, and policies will be formulated shortly.

Answered by
Lord Murray of Blidworth (Conservative)
Type
Oral answers to questions
Date
6 December 2022
Reference
826 c86
House
House of Lords

My Lords, it is an understatement to say that the use of X-rays to assess the age of children is like using a sledgehammer to crack a very small nut: it not only exposes children to harmful radiation but damages our image in the wider world. Would the Minister agree that traumatic events such as seeing near and dear ones killed and homes destroyed can visibly age people, including children, and that a country that is not even in the top 10 of those giving asylum per head of population should eschew this demeaning practice?

Asked by
Lord Singh of Wimbledon (Crossbench)
Oral questions - Supplementary
Status
Answered
Date
6 December 2022
Reference
826 c86
House
House of Lords

I disagree with the noble Lord. As I have already said, there is clear evidence that many people claim to be a minor when they are not. Clear safeguarding issues arise if a child is inadvertently treated as adult and, equally, if an adult is wrongly accepted as a child and placed in accommodation with younger children to whom they could present a risk.

Answered by
Lord Murray of Blidworth (Conservative)
Type
Oral answers to questions
Date
6 December 2022
Reference
826 c86
House
House of Lords

My Lords, the Minister has just told us that the Government are assessing the evidence. Can he tell us what assessment they have made of the Royal College of Paediatrics and Child Health? Its members are experts in this area and it has said that the use of X-rays for age assessment does not work and is unethical.

Asked by
Lord Coaker (Labour)
Oral questions - Supplementary
Status
Answered
Date
6 December 2022
Reference
826 c86
House
House of Lords

The international experience would tend to suggest that that is not the case. The position adopted by the department is that age assessment is one option on a menu of options available for the assessment of age; there is no suggestion that the assessment of age will be undertaken, at this stage and in the present state of the science, simply on a scientific assessment.

Answered by
Lord Murray of Blidworth (Conservative)
Type
Oral answers to questions
Date
6 December 2022
Reference
826 c87
House
House of Lords

Would my noble friend the Minister not agree with me that this has been a problem for a considerable period of time? When I was in the Home Office, we also had difficulties with this matter, but the rules are quite clear: minors are entitled to support in a way that those who are overage are not. So, although it is regarded as being rather unfair to use X-rays, and maybe even dangerous, does my noble friend not agree that at least we have to apply those rules and find ways of applying them that are as fair as possible?

Asked by
Lord Kirkhope of Harrogate (Conservative)
Oral questions - Supplementary
Status
Answered
Date
6 December 2022
Reference
826 c87
House
House of Lords

I entirely agree with my noble friend. I can assure the House that we will ensure that scientific methods are implemented in such a way as to be compliant with the existing regulatory and statutory frameworks governing safety. I entirely agree with the sentiment of my noble friend’s question.

Answered by
Lord Murray of Blidworth (Conservative)
Type
Oral answers to questions
Date
6 December 2022
Reference
826 c87
House
House of Lords

My Lords, further to that answer, in determining what constitutes an appropriate scientific method of age assessment, can the Minister assure us that any future methods will be formally approved by the relevant medical body before they come into use?

Asked by
Bishop of Carlisle (Bishops (affiliation))
Oral questions - Supplementary
Status
Answered
Date
6 December 2022
Reference
826 c87
House
House of Lords

Plainly they will be formally approved by the advisory committee to the Home Secretary, and one suggests that the views of relevant professional bodies will be of great weight in making such a decision.

Answered by
Lord Murray of Blidworth (Conservative)
Type
Oral answers to questions
Date
6 December 2022
Reference
826 c87
House
House of Lords

My Lords, as a sitting magistrate I occasionally have to do age deeming, both in youth court and in adult court. Sometimes we have reports from social workers and sometimes—although rarely—we get expert reports. In the training I received, maybe 10 or 12 years ago, the central message I got was that it was ultimately a judicial decision and that all forms of report, be they from social workers or scientific reports, have quite large elements of doubt within them and the decision is ultimately a judicial one. Does the noble Lord agree?

Asked by
Lord Ponsonby of Shulbrede (Labour)
Oral questions - Supplementary
Status
Answered
Date
6 December 2022
Reference
826 c87
House
House of Lords

In the context of decisions made in magistrates’ courts, I agree that it is a judicial decision. In the context of asylum-seeking people who say that they are minors, the question then falls to the Secretary of State to determine whether they should be treated as a minor—and sadly, as I say, experience suggests that a large number of people have suggested that they are minors in order to take advantage of the perhaps more beneficial regime. It is very important that those people, for the reasons that I have already given the House, are weeded out by such a fair system as we can determine.

Answered by
Lord Murray of Blidworth (Conservative)
Type
Oral answers to questions
Date
6 December 2022
Reference
826 c87
House
House of Lords

My Lords, in response to the noble Baroness, Lady Lister, I think I heard the Minister say about a report that a decision on publication will be made in due course. Can he tell the House whether that is a decision on whether to publish or when to publish?

Asked by
Baroness Hayman (Crossbench)
Oral questions - Supplementary
Status
Answered
Date
6 December 2022
Reference
826 c88
House
House of Lords

At the moment, the answer is both.

Answered by
Lord Murray of Blidworth (Conservative)
Type
Oral answers to questions
Date
6 December 2022
Reference
826 c88
House
House of Lords

My Lords, the British Dental Association has written to all of us saying that X-rays carry a small risk of possible long-term physical harm and that the risk is cumulative and successive exposures increase the risk, which means that each exposure over a lifetime must be clinically justified. Over my lifetime I have had more than 20 X-rays from dentists and have never been warned of this cumulative risk. Can my noble friend explain why the BDA is so worried about a single X-ray of someone claiming asylum who looks 22, especially when the BDA says that it can tell the age to within four years with 95% accuracy? So it might well show that someone was younger than they looked and be to their benefit.

Asked by
Lord Lilley (Conservative)
Oral questions - Supplementary
Status
Answered
Date
6 December 2022
Reference
826 c88
House
House of Lords

I entirely agree with my noble friend that it is an unusual position for the BDA to adopt.

Answered by
Lord Murray of Blidworth (Conservative)
Type
Oral answers to questions
Date
6 December 2022
Reference
826 c88
House
House of Lords

To ask the Secretary of State for the Home Department, what assessment her Department has made of the (a) ethical and (b) scientific considerations of the use of x-rays of verify the age of child refugees.

Asked by
Mohammad Yasin (Labour)
Answering body
Home Office
Type
Written questions
Status
Answered
Date
9 November 2022
Reference
78804
House
House of Commons

To ask the Secretary of State for Justice, what assessment he has made of the effectiveness of X-ray scanners deployed to prevent illegal items entering prisons; and whether he plans to roll these out to all prisons.

Asked by
Simon Lightwood (Labour; Co-operative Party)
Answering body
Ministry of Justice
Type
Written questions
Status
Answered
Date
26 October 2022
Reference
68606
House
House of Commons
Type
Select Committee written evidence; Parliamentary committees
Committee
Public Administration and Constitutional Affairs Committee
Date
12 July 2022
House
House of Commons
Type
Select Committee written evidence; Parliamentary committees
Committee
Health and Social Care Committee
Date
12 July 2022
House
House of Commons

To ask Her Majesty's Government what assessment they have made of the adequacy of waiting times for access to a DXA bone density scan.

Asked by
Baroness Merron (Labour)
Answering body
Department of Health and Social Care
Type
Written questions
Status
Answered
Date
23 March 2022
Reference
HL6982
House
House of Lords

To ask the Secretary of State for the Home Department, whether she plans to introduce dental x-rays to help to determine the age of undocumented migrants; and if she will make a statement.

Asked by
Stuart C McDonald (Scottish National Party)
Answering body
Home Office
Type
Written questions
Status
Answered
Date
10 September 2021
Reference
44370
House
House of Commons
Laid by
Clerk of the House
Department
Parliamentary and Health Service Ombudsman
Type
House of Commons papers
Date
7 July 2021
Reference
HC 393 2021-22
House
House of Lords; House of Commons

To ask the Secretary of State for Justice, with reference to his Department’s announcement of 25 January 2021, which prisons each of the 24 additional x-ray scanners will be installed in; which prisons will have x-ray scanners installed by 25 January 2021; and how much of the £100 million spend...

Asked by
Baroness Brown of Silvertown (Labour)
Answering body
Ministry of Justice
Type
Written questions
Status
Answered
Date
2 February 2021
Reference
142861
House
House of Commons

To ask Her Majesty's Government whether patients’ consent will be required before their data can be collected for the National COVID-19 Chest Imaging Database.

Asked by
Lord Strasburger (Liberal Democrat)
Answering body
Department of Health and Social Care
Type
Written questions
Status
Answered
Date
22 July 2020
Reference
HL6807
House
House of Lords

To ask Her Majesty's Government what plans they have to establish an ethics board to oversee the National COVID-19 Chest Imaging Database.

Asked by
Lord Strasburger (Liberal Democrat)
Answering body
Department of Health and Social Care
Type
Written questions
Status
Answered
Date
22 July 2020
Reference
HL6806
House
House of Lords
Deposited by
Ministry of Justice
Type
Deposited papers
Date
21 May 2020
Reference
DEP2020-0268
House
House of Lords

To ask the Secretary of State for Health and Social Care, what progress has been made on returning X-ray facilities to Hinckley hospital.

Asked by
Luke Evans (Conservative)
Answering body
Department of Health and Social Care
Type
Written questions
Status
Answered
Date
18 February 2020
Reference
632
House
House of Commons

To ask Her Majesty's Government what plans they have, if any, to implement additional measures to detect people smuggling through UK ports, including the use of X-rays.

Asked by
Lord Taylor of Warwick (Non-affiliated)
Answering body
Home Office
Type
Written questions
Status
Answered
Date
5 November 2019
Reference
HL533
House
House of Lords
Laid by
Dominic Raab
Department
Foreign and Commonwealth Office
Type
Treaties; Command papers
Date
1 October 2019
Reference
CP 150
House
House of Commons; House of Lords

To ask the Secretary of State for Health and Social Care, what assessment his Department has made of whether hospitals frequently need to rely on the family members of patients to assist in x-ray procedures.

Asked by
Ranil Jayawardena (Conservative)
Answering body
Department of Health and Social Care
Type
Written questions
Status
Answered
Date
2 May 2019
Reference
247137
House
House of Commons

To ask the Secretary of State for Health, how many X-rays have been carried out at Eltham Community Hospital since that hospital opened; and if he will make a statement.

Asked by
Clive Efford (Labour)
Answering body
Department of Health
Type
Written questions
Status
Answered
Date
23 February 2017
Reference
64357
House
House of Commons
Deposited by
Home Office
Type
Deposited papers
Date
11 January 2017
Reference
DEP2017-0022
House
House of Commons

To ask Her Majesty’s Government whether x-ray equipment bought for a hospital trust by local fundraising efforts belongs to that trust or to NHS Property Services.

Asked by
Baroness Walmsley (Liberal Democrat)
Answering body
Department of Health
Type
Written questions
Status
Answered
Date
7 July 2016
Reference
HL895
House
House of Lords

To ask the Secretary of State for Health, when the mobile x-ray unit for diagnosing tuberculosis in under-served populations will next visit Birmingham.

Asked by
Roger Godsiff (Labour)
Answering body
Department of Health
Type
Written questions
Status
Answered
Date
30 June 2015
Reference
3423
House
House of Commons

To ask the Secretary of State for the Home Department, what expenditure UK Border Force has incurred in operating x-ray scanners to tackle tobacco smuggling in each year since 2010-11.

Asked by
Baroness Berger (Labour; Co-operative Party)
Answering body
Home Office
Type
Written questions
Status
Answered
Date
24 March 2015
Reference
228272
House
House of Commons

To ask the Secretary of State for Health, what estimate he has made of the average age of x-ray machines in use in hospitals.

Asked by
Michael Fabricant (Conservative)
Answering body
Department of Health
Type
Written questions
Status
Answered
Date
26 January 2015
Reference
221220
House
House of Commons

To ask Mr Chancellor of the Exchequer, what expenditure HM Revenue and Customs has incurred in operating x-ray scanners to tackle tobacco smuggling in each year since 2010-11.

Asked by
Baroness Berger (Labour; Co-operative Party)
Answering body
HM Treasury
Type
Written questions
Status
Answered
Date
18 August 2014
Reference
206016
House
House of Commons

To ask the Secretary of State for Health how many bone density scanning machines were available in each region of the UK in each of the last five years.

Asked by
Liz Kendall (Labour)
Answering body
Health
Type
Written questions
Status
Answered
Date
7 April 2014
Reference
194754; 579 c52W
House
House of Commons

To ask the Secretary of State for the Home Department what HM Revenue and Customs spent on operating x-ray scanners to tackle tobacco smuggling in (a) 2010-11 and (b) 2011-12.

[131511]

Asked by
Stephen Williams (Liberal Democrat)
Answering body
Home Department
Type
Written questions
Status
Answered
Date
14 January 2013
Reference
131511; 556 c525W
House
House of Commons
USA

To ask the Secretary of State for Defence (1) how many experiments the Atomic Weapons Establishment has participated in using the Z Pulsed Power Facility at Sandia National Laboratories in each year since 2007;

[129172]

Asked by
Paul Flynn (Labour)
Answering body
Defence
Type
Written questions
Status
Answered
Date
28 November 2012
Reference
129172; 554 cc354-5W
House
House of Commons

To ask Her Majesty’s Government whether they have taken action against a primary care trust because it has refused laparoscopies or X-rays of the uterus on the grounds that they were not permissible as investigations under the National Health Service; and, if so, what action was taken.[HL1888]

Asked by
Lord Hunt of Kings Heath (Labour)
Type
Written questions
Status
Answered
Notes
Answer received between Monday 30 July and Monday 6 August.
Date
24 September 2012
Reference
739 c269WA; HL1888
House
House of Lords

(4) whether his Department gave approval for the age assessments dental X-ray pilot.

Asked by
Lisa Nandy (Labour)
Answering body
Department of Health
Type
Written questions
Status
Answered
Date
30 April 2012
Reference
106037; 543 c1294W
House
House of Commons

To ask the Secretary of State for Health (1) what discussions he had with Ministers in the Home Department on the UK Border Agency's trial of dental X-rays for age assessment purposes prior to the commencement of that trial on 29 March 2012;

Asked by
Lisa Nandy (Labour)
Answering body
Department of Health
Type
Written questions
Status
Answered
Date
30 April 2012
Reference
105989; 543 c1294W
House
House of Commons