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To ask the Secretary of State for Environment, Food and Rural Affairs, what steps she is taking to ensure that the compensation protocol and payment scheme for poultry farms found to be affected by avian influenza provides sufficient economic support to those farmers.

Asked by
Cat Smith (Labour)
Answering body
Department for Environment, Food and Rural Affairs
Type
Written questions
Status
Answered
Date
29 November 2022
Reference
92250
House
House of Commons

Lords second reading. Agreed to on question. Bill committed to a Grand Committee.

Lead member
Lord Benyon
Answering member
Baroness Hayman of Ullock
Department
Department for Environment, Food and Rural Affairs
Type
Debates on bills
Date
21 November 2022
Reference
825 cc1195-1251
House
House of Lords

To ask the Secretary of State for Environment, Food and Rural Affairs, how much compensation has been paid to poultry farmers for birds culled due to avian influenza; and how many compensation claims were (a) made and (b) processed by 15 November.

Asked by
Daniel Zeichner (Labour)
Answering body
Department for Environment, Food and Rural Affairs
Type
Written questions
Status
Answered
Date
21 November 2022
Reference
87857
House
House of Commons

To ask the Secretary of State for Environment, Food and Rural Affairs, if she will make it her policy to change the requirement for ducks to be swabbed before each movement and instead require only a visual inspection.

Asked by
Dan Poulter (Conservative)
Answering body
Department for Environment, Food and Rural Affairs
Type
Written questions
Status
Answered
Date
21 November 2022
Reference
87813
House
House of Commons

My Lords, it is a privilege to open the Second Reading of the Genetic Technology (Precision Breeding) Bill. I declare my interests as a farmer.

Science, research and development are at the heart of igniting the United Kingdom’s economic recovery, boosting productivity, creating new jobs and improving people’s quality of life....

Member
Lord Benyon (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
21 November 2022
Reference
825 cc1195-8
House
House of Lords

Well, it was a real pleasure to hear the Minister open this interesting debate, and we are very grateful for the way he has done it. This is a Bill whose importance we should not underestimate. Although the amounts of money the Minister declared were quite small, the actual commercial...

Member
Lord Winston (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
21 November 2022
Reference
825 cc1198-1201
House
House of Lords

My Lords, it is a great pleasure to follow the noble Lord, Lord Winston. I strongly support this Bill. I would like to acknowledge my colleague in my department in Oxford, Jane Langdale, and her post-doc Dana Vlad. They spent a lot of time explaining the details of gene editing...

Member
Lord Krebs (Crossbench)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
21 November 2022
Reference
825 cc1201-4
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I begin by drawing attention to my farming interest in the register. Like others who have spoken, my first comment is to welcome the Bill. I agreed enormously with the noble Lord, Lord Winston, when he said—I have put it into my own words—that we are doing what...

Member
Lord Jopling (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
21 November 2022
Reference
825 cc1204-6
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I should first declare an interest through my involvement with the Rothamsted Research institute, which is already carrying out authorised genetically edited field trials on wheat in an attempt to tackle some of the global food challenges that we collectively face today.

In previous debates in this House and...

Member
Baroness Jones of Whitchurch (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
21 November 2022
Reference
825 cc1206-8
House
House of Lords

My Lords, because of my interests as a veterinarian and as declared in the register, I shall confine my remarks to the impact of the Bill on animals, particularly in terms of disease resistance, the environment and animal welfare. These are overlapping issues for which, in my opinion, there is...

Member
Lord Trees (Crossbench)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
21 November 2022
Reference
825 cc1208-1210
House
House of Lords

My Lords, it is a pleasure to follow the noble Lord, Lord Trees, and to reinforce his concern about gene drive and his desire for a direct answer from the Minister at some point.

The House may not know that the term “genetic engineering” was coined by a pulp science-fiction writer,...

Member
Baroness Bennett of Manor Castle (Green Party)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
21 November 2022
Reference
825 cc1210-3
House
House of Lords

My Lords, it is a pleasure to follow the noble Baroness, Lady Bennett of Manor Castle. Since my wife is always accusing me of verbal pedantry, I suppose I should feel some sympathy for the noble Baroness’s opening argument, which seems semantic in essence—that the words “precision breeding” in the...

Member
Lord Lilley (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
21 November 2022
Reference
825 cc1212-5
House
House of Lords

My Lords, it is a great honour to follow the noble Lord, Lord Lilley. I do not suppose anyone in this House will be surprised to know that I support the Bill and everything it is trying to achieve. Some of your Lordships will remember that I moved the amendment...

Member
Lord Cameron of Dillington (Crossbench)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
21 November 2022
Reference
825 cc1214-8
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I am very glad to follow the noble Lord, Lord Cameron of Dillington, who gave us a further excellent example of the expertise brought to this House by so many noble Lords in support of the Bill. I also support the Bill and I very much welcome it....

Member
Lord Lansley (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
21 November 2022
Reference
825 cc1216-1220
House
House of Lords

My Lords, in general I support the Bill. I am afraid that whenever the word “genetic” appears some people, organisations and supermarkets run a country mile. It is no good supporters of the Bill complaining and moaning about this. I remember my experiences in my early days at the old...

Member
Lord Rooker (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
21 November 2022
Reference
825 cc1220-2
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I draw attention to my interests in agriculture, forestry and horticulture. Like many others, I am pleased to see this Bill, which has been welcomed by many in the industry of food production and farming.

There can be no doubt that global warming is taking place at a far...

Member
Earl of Stair (Crossbench)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
21 November 2022
Reference
825 cc1222-4
House
House of Lords

My Lords, sadly the noble Earl, Lord Leicester, was delayed in his transport arrangements and arrived in the Chamber 16 minutes late. He is with us now but was scratched from the speakers’ list. It was his great task to welcome the noble Lord, Lord Roborough, to this Chamber—so I...

Member
Lord Curry of Kirkharle (Crossbench)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
21 November 2022
Reference
825 cc1226-8
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I am delighted to follow the noble Lord, Lord Curry, and I echo his good wishes and warm welcome to my noble friend Lord Roborough. He may have claimed to be of imprecise breeding, but he demonstrated his knowledge of the subject and good humour. We look forward...

Member
Baroness McIntosh of Pickering (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
21 November 2022
Reference
825 cc1228-1230
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I note my interests as listed in the register, both as a farmer and as an IP and technology litigator at a law firm that represents clients active in this space.

I too welcome the noble Lord, Lord Roborough, to this House and congratulate him on an excellent maiden...

Member
Earl of Devon (Crossbench)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
21 November 2022
Reference
825 cc1229-1233
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I declare my interests as a farmer and landowner as set out in the register. I too welcome the noble Lord, Lord Roborough, and congratulate him on his excellent and amusing maiden speech, and look forward to many such contributions in future.

The development of new cultivars through rapid...

Member
Lord Carrington (Crossbench)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
21 November 2022
Reference
825 cc1233-5
House
House of Lords

My Lords, when genetic technology is mentioned, many of us still get alarmed because we associate it with GMOs and remember our press in an unedifying moral panic using dramatic headlines such as “Frankenstein foods”. However, with precision breeding, we need to look deeper than the headlines and the shroud-waving,...

Member
Earl of Caithness (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
21 November 2022
Reference
825 cc1235-7
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I declare my current interest as co-chair of Peers for the Planet and past interests as a trustee of several international development charities and as Minister of State for what was then MAFF for two years, with responsibilities for the issues with which this legislation deals.

All those interests...

Member
Baroness Hayman (Crossbench)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
21 November 2022
Reference
825 c1237
House
House of Lords

Oh!

Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
21 November 2022
Reference
825 c1237
House
House of Lords

This is first audience that has ever laughed at that joke. I have only ever told it to my children, who thought I was completely mad. But this is seriously important. On these issues, my vision is that of the noble Lord, Lord Cameron of Dillington:

given the potential benefits,...

Member
Baroness Hayman (Crossbench)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
21 November 2022
Reference
825 cc1237-9
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I would not have chosen to speak in the gap, but it has certain advantages. It is certainly a privilege to follow the noble Baroness, Lady Hayman, who chairs a group with which I am involved in an advisory capacity: Peers for the Planet. Of course, there is...

Member
Lord Taylor of Holbeach (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
21 November 2022
Reference
825 cc1239-1240
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I rise to speak from the Lib Dem Benches. Sadly, my noble friend Lady Bakewell of Hardington Mandeville is in hospital today, but she hopes to be back fighting the good fight in Committee.

These Benches are not anti-science. Although the noble Lord, Lord Lilley, is not in his...

Member
Baroness Parminter (Liberal Democrat)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
21 November 2022
Reference
825 cc1240-2
House
House of Lords

My Lords, this has been a very interesting debate. I also welcome the noble Lord, Lord Roborough, and congratulate him on his maiden speech; we look forward to his future contributions.

There were a few references earlier to Jonathan Swift, and I recall that he also wrote an essay suggesting that...

Member
Baroness Hayman of Ullock (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
21 November 2022
Reference
825 cc1242-5
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I thank noble Lords for their insightful and engaging contributions to today’s debate. It undoubtedly shows this House at its best when it draws together scientists, former Ministers, farmers, leaders of the veterinary profession and many other insightful contributions on this very important legislation.

I broke a self-denying ordinance...

Member
Lord Benyon (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
21 November 2022
Reference
825 cc1245-8
House
House of Lords

I apologise for interrupting at this late stage of the debate, which has been really thoughtful and helpful.

The Minister might want to consider the difference between DNA that is naturally produced and is what the Bill is talking about and DNA that is produced in a gene sequencer, completely chemically....

Member
Lord Winston (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
21 November 2022
Reference
825 c1249
House
House of Lords

I am not going to debate with the noble Lord, because he knows much more about this than me, and I know that I would sound even weaker if I just read out a line that has been written. But I value his contribution and I hope to tease out...

Member
Lord Benyon (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
21 November 2022
Reference
825 cc1249-1254
House
House of Lords

To ask the Secretary of State for the Home Department, what steps her Department plans to take to set up a dedicated poultry workers visa scheme.

Asked by
Dan Poulter (Conservative)
Answering body
Home Office
Type
Written questions
Status
Answered
Date
21 November 2022
Reference
84866
House
House of Commons

My Lords, I am grateful to my noble friend the Minister for this Genetic Technology (Precision Breeding) Bill, which has driven me to speak for the first time. I will begin by expressing my thanks, first to noble Lords from all parts of the House who have gone out of...

Member
Lord Roborough (Conservative)
Type
Maiden speeches
Date
21 November 2022
Reference
825 cc1224-6
House
House of Lords

To ask the Secretary of State for Environment, Food and Rural Affairs, whether her Department have plans to provide support for poultry farms following a cull as a result of Avian Influenza.

Asked by
Dan Poulter (Conservative)
Answering body
Department for Environment, Food and Rural Affairs
Type
Written questions
Status
Answered
Date
18 November 2022
Reference
84856
House
House of Commons

To ask the Secretary of State for Environment, Food and Rural Affairs, how many ducks have been culled since the outbreak of avian flu on 27 October 2021.

Asked by
Matt Western (Labour)
Answering body
Department for Environment, Food and Rural Affairs
Type
Written questions
Status
Answered
Date
18 November 2022
Reference
74845
House
House of Commons

To ask the Secretary of State for Environment, Food and Rural Affairs, how many geese have been culled since the outbreak of avian flu on 27 October 2021.

Asked by
Matt Western (Labour)
Answering body
Department for Environment, Food and Rural Affairs
Type
Written questions
Status
Answered
Date
18 November 2022
Reference
74844
House
House of Commons

To ask the Secretary of State for Environment, Food and Rural Affairs, how many turkeys have been culled since the outbreak of avian flu on 27 October 2021.

Asked by
Matt Western (Labour)
Answering body
Department for Environment, Food and Rural Affairs
Type
Written questions
Status
Answered
Date
18 November 2022
Reference
74843
House
House of Commons

To ask the Secretary of State for Environment, Food and Rural Affairs, what steps her Department is taking to support poultry farmers affected by the 2022 outbreak of Avian Influenza.

Asked by
Dan Poulter (Conservative)
Answering body
Department for Environment, Food and Rural Affairs
Type
Written questions
Status
Answered
Date
18 November 2022
Reference
84855
House
House of Commons

To ask His Majesty's Government what assessment they have made of the impact of avian influenza on domestic poultry and what support they will provide to domestic producers.

Asked by
Baroness McIntosh of Pickering (Conservative)
Answering body
Department for Environment, Food and Rural Affairs
Type
Written questions
Status
Answered
Date
16 November 2022
Reference
HL3107
House
House of Lords

To ask the Secretary of State for Environment, Food and Rural Affairs, what steps her Department is taking to increase the speed of issuing poultry movement licenses in Avian Influenza zones.

Asked by
Dan Poulter (Conservative)
Answering body
Department for Environment, Food and Rural Affairs
Type
Written questions
Status
Answered
Date
16 November 2022
Reference
84858
House
House of Commons

To ask the Secretary of State for Environment, Food and Rural Affairs, what steps her Department has taken to support the poultry industry in response to the 2022 bird flu outbreak; how much financial support has been provided to that industry in response to that outbreak; and how many compensation...

Asked by
Daniel Zeichner (Labour)
Answering body
Department for Environment, Food and Rural Affairs
Type
Written questions
Status
Answered
Date
14 November 2022
Reference
80733
House
House of Commons

To ask the Secretary of State for Environment, Food and Rural Affairs, what assessment she has made of the impact on poultry prices in winter 2022-23 of the decision to cull birds following the outbreak of avian flu on 27 October 2021.

Asked by
Matt Western (Labour)
Answering body
Department for Environment, Food and Rural Affairs
Type
Written questions
Status
Answered
Date
8 November 2022
Reference
74846
House
House of Commons

My Lords, the UK is experiencing its most severe outbreak of avian influenza. Its persistence over the last year, coupled with soaring energy and feed costs, has put the British poultry sector under huge emotional and financial pressure. We welcome the Government’s announcement that a full bird housing order will...

Member
Baroness Hayman of Ullock (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
3 November 2022
Reference
825 cc373-5
House
House of Lords

My Lords, avian influenza is having a devastating effect on the poultry industry and wild bird populations. The epidemic first manifested itself in autumn 2021 when migratory birds started to arrive on our shores. Since then, it has spread and there are now some 91 infected premises in the UK....

Member
Baroness Bakewell of Hardington Mandeville (Liberal Democrat)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
3 November 2022
Reference
825 cc375-6
House
House of Lords

I am grateful for this opportunity to inform noble Lords about the very serious situation relating to avian influenza and all that we in Defra are doing, working with our colleagues in the devolved Governments.

The noble Baroness, Lady Hayman, asked why we did not impose the housing order sooner. We...

Member
Lord Benyon (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
3 November 2022
Reference
825 cc377-9
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I will pursue with my noble friend the Minister the question of what is happening in Scotland. There is deep unease that Scotland is not following the same measures as England. Will he keep this under review and use his best offices in that regard? The noble Baroness,...

Member
Baroness McIntosh of Pickering (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
3 November 2022
Reference
825 c379
House
House of Lords

We have a devolved system of government, and the Scottish Government have this decision in their hands. They will be talking to the Scottish NFU, Scottish research establishments and other interests in Scotland while making their decision. As I said, we are consulting them on a regular basis. On my...

Member
Lord Benyon (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
3 November 2022
Reference
825 c379
House
House of Lords

My Lords, first of all, I empathise with our farmers who are losing their flocks. It is most distressing for them, on top of the economic challenges they are facing with rising feed and energy costs. Following on from the remarks of the noble Baroness, Lady Hayman of Ullock, I...

Member
Lord Trees (Crossbench)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
3 November 2022
Reference
825 c379
House
House of Lords

On the emergency measures, we are concentrating absolutely on biosecurity. We are trying to ensure that we get to farms as quickly as possible: they are visited within 24 hours in all but a very few cases, which allows an assessment to be made on which birds are dead and...

Member
Lord Benyon (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
3 November 2022
Reference
825 c380
House
House of Lords

My Lords, earlier this year, His Majesty’s Government announced the establishment of a new flu map research project, which aims to help us better understand the transmission and spread of avian flu. Along with many others, I welcome the £1.5 million in funding by the Government, but in the light...

Member
Bishop of Exeter (Bishops (affiliation))
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
3 November 2022
Reference
825 c380
House
House of Lords

The right reverend Prelate is absolutely right. Further to that, the previous but one Prime Minister made a commitment at UNGA—the United Nations General Assembly—that Britain will be part of an international effort to tackle zoonotic disease. This is a zoonotic disease although the risk to human health is described...

Member
Lord Benyon (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
3 November 2022
Reference
825 c380
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I have 16,000 birds at my farm and the problem is the compensation. It is being paid only for birds that remain alive at the time of culling. We have heard of delays in culling because of vets et cetera so there could be very few birds still...

Member
Earl Cathcart (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
3 November 2022
Reference
825 c380
House
House of Lords

I totally take my noble friend’s point. We are talking about taxpayers’ money here and are deeply sympathetic to farmers who have been hit by this but also have responsibility to make sure that compensation is fair. I am sure that my noble friend’s flock is very well protected and...

Member
Lord Benyon (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
3 November 2022
Reference
825 c381
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I ask a question about the longer term. The Statement said that

“any future decisions on disease control measures, including the use of vaccination, will be based on the latest scientific, ornithological and veterinary advice.”

Is the Minister able to tell the House, especially in relation to the answer he...

Member
Viscount Stansgate (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
3 November 2022
Reference
825 c381
House
House of Lords

I do not know specifically, but I would be very surprised if it does not. Our chief scientific adviser, Professor Gideon Henderson, is a very renowned scientist; he ensures that we use the best and most rigorous scientific advice and that we use it properly. I am very happy to...

Member
Lord Benyon (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
3 November 2022
Reference
825 c381
House
House of Lords

My Lords, one of the most important things in life is communication. My noble friend on the Front Bench has gone into great detail, and I think the House also owes a tribute to the noble Baroness on the Opposition Front Bench. But, in today’s world, we are not good...

Member
Lord Naseby (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
3 November 2022
Reference
825 c381
House
House of Lords

My noble friend is absolutely right to raise the importance of keeping people informed. In fact, it works both ways: members of the public are keeping us informed—often through NGOs, but also directly—in particular about the impact on wild birds. Defra and the Government keep consumers and customers informed directly...

Member
Lord Benyon (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
3 November 2022
Reference
825 c382
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I am sure the Minister is aware that, in the past 50 years, the global population of domestic poultry has multiplied by six, from 5.7 billion to 36 billion, representing 70% of the avian biomass on this planet. That is a large reservoir, connected by trade, for disease...

Member
Baroness Bennett of Manor Castle (Green Party)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
3 November 2022
Reference
825 c382
House
House of Lords

We have very high animal welfare standards here, as seen in the removal of battery cages, and have worked faster than other countries in Europe and elsewhere to improve those factors. The point lying behind the question of the noble Baroness is that, when my grandparents were alive, chicken was...

Member
Lord Benyon (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
3 November 2022
Reference
825 c383
House
House of Lords

My Lords, this is a terrible disease; my sympathy goes out to the producers and so forth. I declare my interest as a council member of the Royal Society for the Protection of Birds and other conservation interests. I was very heartened to hear of the involvement of the British...

Member
Lord Randall of Uxbridge (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
3 November 2022
Reference
825 c383
House
House of Lords

I assure my noble friend that there is a sort of task force already in place. Defra and the devolved Administrations, working with the Animal and Plant Health Agency, Natural England, NatureScot, the Joint Nature Conservation Committee and non-governmental organisations such as the RSPB and the British Trust for Ornithology,...

Member
Lord Benyon (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
3 November 2022
Reference
825 cc383-4
House
House of Lords

Lords statement on the Government's response to the current avian influenza outbreaks.

Lead member
Lord Benyon
Department
Department for Environment, Food and Rural Affairs
Type
Ministerial statements
Date
3 November 2022
Reference
825 cc370-384
House
House of Lords

Statement on the Government's response to the current avian influenza outbreaks.

Lead member
Mark Spencer
Department
Department for Environment, Food and Rural Affairs
Type
Ministerial statements
Date
1 November 2022
Reference
721 cc803-813
House
House of Commons

With permission, I would like to make a statement on the Government’s response to the current avian influenza outbreaks. The Department for Environment, Food and Rural Affairs’ avian influenza disease control measures aim to minimise the economic burden of the outbreak on the food, farming and tourism industries and on...

Member
Mark Spencer (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
1 November 2022
Reference
721 cc804-5
House
House of Commons

I thank the Minister for giving me advance sight of his statement, which is welcome but should have been made weeks ago, as the devastating impact on the wild bird population has been known for months and the impact on producers has been getting worse and worse week by week....

Member
Daniel Zeichner (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
1 November 2022
Reference
721 cc805-6
House
House of Commons

I am disappointed that the hon. Gentleman has taken that approach and wants to make this a party political issue. Interestingly, Wales, where the Labour party is in control, has not moved to do this at this stage. We are announcing before the Welsh Administration. We are actually working quite...

Member
Mark Spencer (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
1 November 2022
Reference
721 c806
House
House of Commons

I thank my right hon. Friend for his update on this incredibly concerning situation. My thoughts go out to people on the frontline on farms, who are in among their birds. It is incredibly distressing and devastating for all involved in tending or looking after birds and animals that are...

Member
Neil Hudson (Conservative)
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Proceeding contributions
Date
1 November 2022
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721 c806
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House of Commons

I acknowledge my hon. Friend’s expertise in this area. The APHA has the resources to deal with this enormous challenge, but we recognise the pressure it is under. We will make sure it is well resourced to go about its business.

Member
Mark Spencer (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
1 November 2022
Reference
721 c807
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House of Commons

I thank the Minister for his helpful update and for giving me early sight of his statement.

This outbreak is serious and potentially ruinous for those who depend on the poultry trade, or whose livelihood depends on the keeping of birds. All summer in Scotland, we have seen the impact of...

Member
Pete Wishart (Scottish National Party)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
1 November 2022
Reference
721 c807
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House of Commons

I thank the hon. Gentleman for his comments and for the co-operation of the Scottish Government. We work very closely at official level and at chief veterinary officer level to ensure that we are working in tandem to mitigate the risks. As he identified, there is no risk to the...

Member
Mark Spencer (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
1 November 2022
Reference
721 c807
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House of Commons

I thank my right hon. Friend for his statement. However, the compensation arrangements he outlined will do very little to help small producers such as KellyBronze in my constituency, which lost 9,800 turkeys from a flock of 10,000 in the space of a weekend, before the vet even arrived. Will...

Member
John Whittingdale (Conservative)
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Proceeding contributions
Date
1 November 2022
Reference
721 c807
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House of Commons

I, too, have met my right hon. Friend’s constituent Paul Kelly, who made representations to me on behalf of KellyBronze. We have moved the start of compensation to as early as legally possible without the introduction of primary legislation. We are seeking to assist farmers as much as we can...

Member
Mark Spencer (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
1 November 2022
Reference
721 c808
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House of Commons

I recently held a farmers forum in Lancaster and Fleetwood, and it is fair to say that the farmers in my community are deeply concerned about avian flu, but they are also concerned about the shortage of vets. Is the Minister confident that his Department has access to enough vets...

Member
Cat Smith (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
1 November 2022
Reference
721 c808
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House of Commons

We have full confidence that we have enough vets to deal with this outbreak. Those vets are working long hours with great dedication, but I hear the hon. Lady’s comments about the concerns of poultry keepers and farmers up and down the country. We should not underestimate the mental health...

Member
Mark Spencer (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
1 November 2022
Reference
721 c808
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House of Commons

I welcome the improvements to the compensation arrangements. I am aware that the National Farmers Union’s poultry board visited the Department last week to try to impress upon my right hon. Friend and his officials that paying compensation to farmers who have lost birds to culling but not to farmers...

Member
Philip Dunne (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
1 November 2022
Reference
721 c808
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House of Commons

I thank my right hon. Friend for his three questions. First, we have moved the date for the compensation scheme to as early as legally possible, to try to assist farmers with the challenges they face. He mentioned the labelling of free-range eggs. The law currently allows 16 weeks from...

Member
Mark Spencer (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
1 November 2022
Reference
721 cc808-9
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House of Commons

Twenty-one years on from foot and mouth disease devastating our communities in Cumbria, we are especially sensitive to not only the animal welfare consequences of outbreaks of animal diseases such as avian flu, but the crushing impact on people, livelihoods and the wider community. Will the Minister say more about...

Member
Tim Farron (Liberal Democrat)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
1 November 2022
Reference
721 c809
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House of Commons

Clearly, the housing order came in following the best scientific and veterinary advice that we have, but I cannot reiterate enough the impact that improved biosecurity has on those units over a housing order. I recognise the impact that foot and mouth disease had in the hon. Gentleman’s part of...

Member
Mark Spencer (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
1 November 2022
Reference
721 c809
House
House of Commons

It feels as though Norfolk is at the epicentre of this bird flu epidemic. In parts of my constituency, on the Norfolk broads, we have multiple reports of wild birds, including many swans, dying on our rivers and lying in the water. The Environment Agency is struggling to cope and...

Member
Duncan Baker (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
1 November 2022
Reference
721 c809
House
House of Commons

My hon. Friend is right to identify that Norfolk, north Essex and Suffolk are at the epicentre of this and have been under a housing order for some time. Obviously, he has made representations to me in private, as has my hon. Friend the Member for Bury St Edmunds (Jo...

Member
Mark Spencer (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
1 November 2022
Reference
721 c809
House
House of Commons

As the Minister acknowledged, this is a deeply concerning for poultry farmers, and that concern is felt right across Yorkshire, as I know it is right across the country, not least because of the proximity to the crucial Christmas period, as he said. I wish to ask him about testing,...

Member
Dan Jarvis (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
1 November 2022
Reference
721 c810
House
House of Commons

Currently, we feel as though we have enough resource and are able to get on to farms quickly enough to identify the disease where possible, and that is the moment when compensation begins. As the hon. Gentleman has identified, rapid diagnosis and quick action are required, and at this moment...

Member
Mark Spencer (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
1 November 2022
Reference
721 c810
House
House of Commons

I thank my right hon. Friend for his statement. Although, as he has stated, the risk to humans from avian flu thankfully remains low, we know from recent experience that clear public information will be key to minimising the spread of the virus and keeping our constituents safe. Using the...

Member
Maggie Throup (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
1 November 2022
Reference
721 c810
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House of Commons

My hon. Friend’s experience during the covid pandemic is extensive and valuable to us. My advice to members of the public is not to interfere with those dead birds, not to pick them up and not to move them, but to report them to their local authority if they see...

Member
Mark Spencer (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
1 November 2022
Reference
721 c810
House
House of Commons

I thank the Minister for his response. In my constituency of Strangford, in Northern Ireland, I am aware of two confirmed outbreaks of avian flu, one in Ballywalter, 4 miles from where we live, and one in Kircubbin, 3 miles south of where we live. I am also aware of...

Member
Jim Shannon (Democratic Unionist Party)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
1 November 2022
Reference
721 c810
House
House of Commons

The hon. Gentleman is right to identify that this is not an England-only problem; it is an international challenge and we need to co-operate and work with our international colleagues. Later this week, I will be going to the OECD, where I will be meeting international farming Ministers to discuss...

Member
Mark Spencer (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
1 November 2022
Reference
721 c810
House
House of Commons

I welcome the statement from my right hon. Friend, particularly on the measures relating to compensation earlier in the process, which will be most welcome, not least because, as he will be aware, one recent outbreak of avian flu in Scotland has been in my constituency in recent days. The...

Member
David Duguid (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
1 November 2022
Reference
721 c811
House
House of Commons

One big challenge we face is that there has not been a break in the disease; traditionally, over the summer period the disease has “gone away” and disappeared. Unfortunately, the levels of infection have continued over the summer period and wild bird populations now heading towards the UK for the...

Member
Mark Spencer (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
1 November 2022
Reference
721 c811
House
House of Commons

That is a good question, and I make the commitment to the hon. Gentleman now that my door is open to colleagues from across the UK and the devolved Administrations to have those conversations. There are a lot of conversations taking place at official level and certainly the chief veterinary...

Member
Mark Spencer (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
1 November 2022
Reference
721 c811
House
House of Commons

We have already had avian flu in the north of Newcastle-under-Lyme, following an outbreak in Kidsgrove last month. I welcome my right hon. Friend’s statement and what he is doing, given the increasing numbers, and the compensation scheme he has set out today, but to reassure consumers will he also...

Member
Aaron Bell (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
1 November 2022
Reference
721 c811
House
House of Commons

I can be absolutely categorical: there is absolutely no identified risk to human health. That continues to be monitored. We have the highest levels of food safety available to us. The Food Standards Agency is engaged in the process and has given us every assurance that there is no impact...

Member
Mark Spencer (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
1 November 2022
Reference
721 c812
House
House of Commons

I will not respond to the Minister’s disgraceful attack on Scotland’s mild and gentle climate. Surely though, the difference between avian flu and foot and mouth and other diseases of that sort is that avian flu is rife in the wild bird population? It is absolutely heartbreaking to walk on...

Member
Alistair Carmichael (Liberal Democrat)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
1 November 2022
Reference
721 c812
House
House of Commons

The truth is that it is very difficult. Biosecurity is the best tool available to us, but as the right hon. Gentleman says, the disease continues to spread in wild bird populations. To a certain extent, we have to hope that nature finds a way of resolving this on its...

Member
Mark Spencer (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
1 November 2022
Reference
721 c812
House
House of Commons

As I said earlier, it is important that members of the public do not interfere with dead birds, as they could inadvertently spread the virus by doing so. It is possible to report the discovery of a dead bird either to DEFRA or to the local authority, and that helps...

Member
Mark Spencer (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
1 November 2022
Reference
721 c812
House
House of Commons

I thank the Minister for his statement. This is indeed a worrying situation. If avian flu were to enter our commercial flock in Northern Ireland, it would have a devastating impact on our poultry industry, including many family farms, on international trade and on the wider economy. Can the Minister...

Member
Carla Lockhart (Democratic Unionist Party)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
1 November 2022
Reference
721 c812
House
House of Commons

We do have adequate resources to deal with the challenges we face. We brought forward the compensation payments, which will lead to earlier payments being made to those being compensated. It is

worth acknowledging, however, that farmers are not interested in compensation; they want to keep their flocks safe, and...

Member
Mark Spencer (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
1 November 2022
Reference
721 c812
House
House of Commons

To be clear, the rules had not changed on 1 October. They changed last week and we backdated the changes to 1 October, so the kick-in moment for compensation for farmers who sadly lost their flocks after 1 October moved slightly backward. I can write to the hon. Member directly...

Member
Mark Spencer (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
1 November 2022
Reference
721 c813
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House of Commons

The Minister said in his reply to the shadow Minister that there was close co-ordination with the devolved Administration, and he has made that point repeatedly during the debate. However, the Rural Affairs Minister said in the Senedd last week when answering questions that she had had no contact with...

Member
Jonathan Edwards (Independent (affiliation))
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
1 November 2022
Reference
721 c811
House
House of Commons

I thank the Minister for his statement and for the actions his Department has already taken. Sadly, Blackpool has been affected by avian flu—40% of the swan population in Stanley Park died last winter and a high number of cases was reported recently among seabirds. Although I understand that the...

Member
Scott Benton (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
1 November 2022
Reference
721 c812
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House of Commons

My question is also about compensation, which I know our constituents do care about. Although it is good to hear the Minister recognise that there has been uncertainty about entitlement to compensation, I am unconvinced that the new approach has been applied since 1 October. In my part of Devon,...

Member
Richard Foord (Liberal Democrat)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
1 November 2022
Reference
721 c813
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House of Commons

On a point of order, Mr Deputy Speaker. Am I wrong in thinking that Third Reading is about what is actually in the Bill, rather than what is not? The shadow Minister seems to be referring to what is not in the Bill. My understanding was that on Third Reading...

Member
Philip Davies (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
31 October 2022
Reference
721 c716
House
House of Commons