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My Lords, I point out that Baroness Williams, who has just departed from us, continued to pay dues to the Labour Party for 10 years after she had joined the Social Democratic Party, because she failed to cancel her direct debit?

Member
Lord Balfe (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
25 February 2016
Reference
769 c423
House
House of Lords

I think it needs such sources of money at the moment.

Another issue that has not been raised is that a good employer wants representative unions. As someone who has been involved as a manager—I know that the unions may be suspicious of this—I liked to know who was in the...

Member
Lord Stoneham of Droxford (Liberal Democrat)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
25 February 2016
Reference
769 c423
House
House of Lords

Perhaps I can help the Minister to join the consensus on how awful the clause is by stressing one point that the noble Lord, Lord Cormack, touched on. It is about choice. There is sometimes confusion in audiences that I address about check-off. People wonder, “Is it to do with...

Member
Lord Monks (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
25 February 2016
Reference
769 cc423-4
House
House of Lords

I put to the Minister a question that she might consider before she comes to the Box. She will have a prepared speech, and she has obviously amended her notes. But what has come out during this debate is an inconsistency in the position of those to whom the noble...

Member
Lord Campbell-Savours (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
25 February 2016
Reference
769 c424
House
House of Lords

I thank the noble Lords, Lord Balfe and Lord Kerslake, for their contributions and particularly what they said about part-time, low-paid workers in the public services—the National Health Service and local government. Throughout my lifetime I represented those workers and I know what it is like for people on those...

Member
Lord Sawyer (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
25 February 2016
Reference
769 cc424-5
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I approach this from a slightly different angle. I looked at the Bill for the first time with a particular interest in Clauses 10 and 11 and learned about check-off only from reading Clause 14 later. Frankly, I was surprised to see check-off still taking place, as it...

Member
Lord Leigh of Hurley (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
25 February 2016
Reference
769 c425
House
House of Lords

Does my noble friend appreciate that some people on some very low incomes may not have bank accounts at all? If they do have

bank accounts and set up direct debits, if there is not enough money in their account, they get an enormous bill from the bank because the...

Member
Lord Forsyth of Drumlean (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
25 February 2016
Reference
769 c425
House
House of Lords

I would be very interested to know the number of those people. Clearly, the numbers have changed dramatically since check-off was brought in, as the noble Lord, Lord Balfe, explained.

Member
Lord Leigh of Hurley (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
25 February 2016
Reference
769 c426
House
House of Lords

Yes, but we are concerned about every individual. Even if it is only a few hundred people, surely that in itself is justification for what is being argued by almost everybody in this debate.

Member
Lord Cormack (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
25 February 2016
Reference
769 c426
House
House of Lords

Of course, exceptions can be made for a few hundred, if it is a few hundred, as with others. But it seems that direct debit is the direction of travel. I have nearly finished.

Member
Lord Leigh of Hurley (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
25 February 2016
Reference
769 c426
House
House of Lords

I am most grateful to my noble friend. I have no idea what the numbers are, but it will be more than a few hundred—and it will be the people who will lose most if they do not have the backing of their union. I appreciate that they may not...

Member
Lord Forsyth of Drumlean (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
25 February 2016
Reference
769 c426
House
House of Lords

I am not sure the noble Lord knows my particular social circle, but I took the figure of a few hundred from my noble friend Lord Cormack. As I said, I do not know the numbers and I do not think the noble Lord knows the numbers, but it would...

Member
Lord Leigh of Hurley (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
25 February 2016
Reference
769 c426
House
House of Lords

The point I was making was that even if it is only a tiny number, why are we doing this?

Member
Lord Cormack (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
25 February 2016
Reference
769 c426
House
House of Lords

Yes, I thank the noble Lord—I have taken the point. The point that I was making was that the direction of travel, in the market and clearly by the unions, is towards direct debit, which is a direction of travel that we should encourage.

Member
Lord Leigh of Hurley (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
25 February 2016
Reference
769 c426
House
House of Lords

My Lords, this has been a fascinating debate, and I have begun to feel a bit sorry for the Minister, because she totally lacks any kind of support whatever. If I am allowed to say so without being out of order, I also feel very sorry for her officials in...

Member
Lord Judd (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
25 February 2016
Reference
769 c426
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I thank the noble Baroness, Lady Wheeler, for her clear, comprehensive and relatively succinct introduction to this enormous group. It is plain that the sense of the Committee is that there are concerns about Clause 14, for reasons that have been fully debated. However, we have looked carefully...

Member
Baroness Neville-Rolfe (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
25 February 2016
Reference
769 c427
House
House of Lords

What about Tesco?

Member
Lord Collins of Highbury (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
25 February 2016
Reference
769 c427
House
House of Lords

I suspect that if it was starting now, rather than 100 years ago, things would be different because of the direction of travel.

Member
Baroness Neville-Rolfe (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
25 February 2016
Reference
769 c427
House
House of Lords

The Minister said she would be clear and objective. Will she state what evidence she has been given for saying that that would be the case?

Member
Baroness Wheeler (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
25 February 2016
Reference
769 c427
House
House of Lords

I think we have set out clearly in our impact assessment and elsewhere the way things are going. There is clear evidence that there has been a big move to direct debits, internet banking et cetera. I do not think anyone could dispute that. As a former employer in the...

Member
Baroness Neville-Rolfe (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
25 February 2016
Reference
769 c427
House
House of Lords

I shall give the Minister a simple fact. She talked about Tesco. She was part of a partnership arrangement. Can she tell me how old that arrangement is and how important payroll deduction is to it? In my memory, it is relatively recent.

Member
Lord Collins of Highbury (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
25 February 2016
Reference
769 c427
House
House of Lords

I think check-off existed for a number of years at Tesco, long before I arrived. We had the partnership agreement to which the noble Lord refers in the late 1990s, and I was involved in that. Check-off is part of the arrangements. In the Bill, we are not seeking to...

Member
Baroness Neville-Rolfe (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
25 February 2016
Reference
769 c427
House
House of Lords

The Minister has been very clear about the notion that there is evidence of the direction of travel. Is she suggesting that the

direction of travel—meaning that more people use internet banking, perhaps on their phones, or direct debit—is the introduction of technology, and therefore it is just the direction...

Member
Lord Mendelsohn (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
25 February 2016
Reference
769 c427
House
House of Lords

The noble Lord is right in saying that the direction of travel is driven by digital change—I am not disputing that—and that a fair number of things are deducted at source. However—and I am trying to find my notes—they nearly all have tax or national insurance involved.

1.45 pm

Member
Baroness Neville-Rolfe (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
25 February 2016
Reference
769 c428
House
House of Lords

I remind the Minister about workplace pensions. They are a very recent auto-enrolment initiative. They do not go back to the 1990s; they go back about two years. They are based on payroll deductions. They are not old-fashioned; they are efficient. They are the way to do things. They are...

Member
Lord Monks (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
25 February 2016
Reference
769 c428
House
House of Lords

I am finding difficult the suggestion that there is now some prescription that direct debit is the only method that should be used. Putting aside the issue of choice and the fact that direct debit does not appear at all in the Bill as a solution, I would like to...

Member
Lord Mendelsohn (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
25 February 2016
Reference
769 c430
House
House of Lords

My Lords, the noble Lord makes a fair point. Having said that, the growth of direct debit in lots of areas has continued. As I have said, I do not think we are ruling out a union accepting cash or alternative payment arrangements. We are trying to make a change...

Member
Baroness Neville-Rolfe (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
25 February 2016
Reference
769 c430
House
House of Lords

Will the Minister explain why it is deemed necessary to impose a new arrangement on two parties, a public sector authority and a trade union, that are perfectly agreeable to operating a check-off scheme? Why is it necessary for the Government to intervene in a situation where both sides are...

Member
Lord Beecham (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
25 February 2016
Reference
769 c430
House
House of Lords

My Lords, the difference is that the cost falls on the public sector.

Member
Baroness Neville-Rolfe (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
25 February 2016
Reference
769 c430
House
House of Lords

But the premise—the burden of the amendments that we are discussing—is there would be no cost to the public sector employer.

Member
Lord Beecham (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
25 February 2016
Reference
769 c430
House
House of Lords

The answer is that I think the impact assessment says there is a cost of £7.2 million. I was seeking to answer the question that had been raised.

Amendment 92 would allow check-off to remain and replace the prohibition with a statutory obligation for ACAS to create a code of practice....

Member
Baroness Neville-Rolfe (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
25 February 2016
Reference
769 cc430-1
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I am very sorry to interrupt, as we have had a long debate. I make an appeal to the Minister: from virtually every speaker in all parts of the Committee we have heard a plea that I myself tried to put into one word, which was echoed by...

Member
Lord Cormack (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
25 February 2016
Reference
769 c431
House
House of Lords

I thank the noble friend for his intervention. I have said from the very beginning that we are listening during this Committee stage. Having said that, it is only right that I set out clearly the reasons why we believe that this clause is the right one and is needed,...

Member
Baroness Neville-Rolfe (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
25 February 2016
Reference
769 c431
House
House of Lords

Could the Minister answer this question, which I have great difficulty in understanding? Why is it permissible for check-off to exist in the case of charities, BUPA and all the organisations set out by the noble Lord, Lord Balfe, but not in the case of trade unions?

Member
Lord Campbell-Savours (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
25 February 2016
Reference
769 c431
House
House of Lords

I have already sought to answer this question. Deductions for things like pensions, childcare vouchers, Cycle to Work and all the other things that have been mentioned have tax or national insurance implications so it makes sense for them to be made through payroll. The collection of union subscriptions should...

Member
Baroness Neville-Rolfe (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
25 February 2016
Reference
769 c431
House
House of Lords

It is a long time ago for me but I remember that part, if not all, of the subscription for craft unions in particular was treated for tax purposes and was declarable in terms of being alleviated—professional fees as part of a trade union subscription. Where that applies in the...

Member
Lord Collins of Highbury (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
25 February 2016
Reference
769 c431
House
House of Lords

I am not sure I entirely understand the point. If I may, I will reflect on it.

Member
Baroness Neville-Rolfe (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
25 February 2016
Reference
769 c432
House
House of Lords

I am sorry—I am irritating my noble friend by intervening. I am just worried about this principle that the Government think it should be a matter of law that there should be deductions only for things which have tax implications. Does that mean we can look forward to the Government...

Member
Lord Forsyth of Drumlean (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
25 February 2016
Reference
769 c432
House
House of Lords

I thank my noble friend. I am not making any commitments about government policy in any of these areas. I am seeking to explain that there is a difference of logic—perhaps not very effectively, but I am trying to do just that today.

I was trying to respond to the noble...

Member
Baroness Neville-Rolfe (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
25 February 2016
Reference
769 c432
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I thank the Minister for her response. This has been a powerful, detailed and consensual debate. She says that she is in listening mode and I will carefully read her comments in Hansard, although I am sorry that she has not felt able to respond to the consensual...

Member
Baroness Wheeler (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
25 February 2016
Reference
769 cc432-3
House
House of Lords

I am grateful to my noble friend. We are debating check-off in relation to Clause 4. The Public and Commercial Services Union on its website quotes a member who said of direct debit:

“It’s the easiest way of paying my union subs. You know then that it’s going to get paid...

Member
Baroness Neville-Rolfe (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
25 February 2016
Reference
769 cc428-9
House
House of Lords

I am sure my noble friend will agree that I could not be characterised in quite the way in which he characterised himself, but I entirely support what he is saying. I do not think that this is a proper way to behave. We ought to make it easy and...

Member
Lord Deben (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
25 February 2016
Reference
769 c417
House
House of Lords

My Lords, we had quite a lengthy discussion about this on the last day in Committee. I do not want to go through all the arguments again—sorely tempted as I am—but I do want to focus on the particular aspects of the amendments in this group, which relates to spending...

Member
Lord Collins of Highbury (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
23 February 2016
Reference
769 cc147-9
House
House of Lords

I. Letters dated 22/02/2016 from Baroness Neville-Rolfe to Lord Mendelsohn and Lord Stoneham regarding the Trade Union Bill: facility time publication regulations (Clause 12) and skeleton regulations which set out the public bodies to which the ban on check-off would apply (Clause 14). 4 p. II. Annex A: Information requirements...

Deposited by
Department for Business, Innovation and Skills
Type
Deposited papers
Date
22 February 2016
Reference
DEP2016-0160
House
House of Lords

The hon. Gentleman is clearly incapable of keeping his remarks to five minutes.

May I start by echoing the hon. Gentleman’s comments about Harry Harpham? It is always a tragedy when any Member of this House passes away, particularly after such a short time in this House. I am sure I...

Member
Lord Grayling (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
11 February 2016
Reference
605 cc1749-1750
House
House of Commons

Let me pay tribute to Harry Harpham. I know others have done so, but there are few miners left in this House and my constituents in the Rhondda

would want to mark his passing with a warm comradely salute. And talking of miners, I would like to wish my hon....

Member
Chris Bryant (Labour)
Type
Business questions
Date
11 February 2016
Reference
605 cc1747-9
House
House of Commons

I. Impact assessments: a) Trade Union Bill. 112 p. b) Reporting of trade union facility time in the public sector. 10 p. c) Prohibition on deduction of union subscriptions from wages in public sector. 13 p. II. Regulatory Policy Committee rating - opinion on the Trade Union Bill impact assessment....

Deposited by
Department for Business, Innovation and Skills
Type
Impact assessments; Deposited papers
Date
4 February 2016
Reference
DEP2016-0182
House
House of Lords
Type
Select Committee reports; House of Commons papers; House of Lords papers; Parliamentary committees
Committee
Joint Committee on Human Rights
Date
3 February 2016
Reference
HC 630 2015-16; HL 92 2015-16
House
House of Lords; House of Commons

My Lords, I thank the noble Baroness for raising this issue, which I was intending to cover today. To assist the House, I am happy to clarify that the Government have already published consultation impact assessments alongside the public consultations that support our package of reforms, as well as an...

Member
Baroness Neville-Rolfe (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
11 January 2016
Reference
768 cc12-5
House
House of Lords

My Lords, this has been a wide-ranging debate. I was confident that your Lordships would take a keen and knowledgeable interest in the Bill, and that has been amply confirmed this evening.

I congratulate the noble Lord, Lord Livermore, on his first speech in our House. He brings with him both...

Member
Baroness Neville-Rolfe (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
11 January 2016
Reference
768 cc122-6
House
House of Lords

To ask Her Majesty’s Government what impact assessment they conducted on provisions in the Trade Union Bill prohibiting public sector employers from providing a check-off service.

Asked by
Lord Mendelsohn (Labour)
Answering body
Cabinet Office
Type
Written questions
Status
Answered
Date
23 December 2015
Reference
HL4432
House
House of Lords

To ask Her Majesty’s Government what estimate they have made of the annual financial impact on the Labour Party when provisions in the Trade Union Bill are implemented to prohibit deducting trade union subscriptions from a union member’s pay, and of the impact of that policy over the life of...

Asked by
Lord Mendelsohn (Labour)
Answering body
Department for Business, Innovation and Skills
Type
Written questions
Status
Withdrawn
Date
9 December 2015
Reference
HL4430
House
House of Lords

This briefing provides information in support of the House of Lords consideration of the Trade Union Bill.

Type
Lords Library Briefings - Bills
Date
20 November 2015
Reference
LLN-2015-0044

To ask the Secretary of State for Transport, what publications his private office subscribes to.

Asked by
Lilian Greenwood (Labour)
Answering body
Department for Transport
Type
Written questions
Status
Answered
Date
5 November 2015
Reference
14418
House
House of Commons

Clauses 17 and 18 agreed to on division (10 votes to 8), with clause 17 agreed to as amended. Schedule 4 agreed to as amended on division (10 votes to 8). Clauses 19 to 22 agreed to on division (10 votes to 8). Amendment to New Clause 11 (Prohibition on...

Lead member
Nick Boles
Answering member
Stephen Doughty
Department
Department for Business, Innovation and Skills
Type
Debates on bills; Public Bill Committee proceedings
Committee
Trade Union Bill Committee
Date
27 October 2015
House
House of Commons

To ask the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs, how much his Department spent on each international subscription in each financial year from 2000-01 to 2014-15.

Asked by
Lord Soames of Fletching (Conservative)
Answering body
Foreign and Commonwealth Office
Type
Written questions
Status
Answered
Date
21 October 2015
Reference
11567
House
House of Commons

To ask the Minister for the Cabinet Office, what estimate he has made of the number of civil servants who have the right to deductions at source of trade unions dues in their contract of employment.

Asked by
Chris Stephens (Scottish National Party)
Answering body
Cabinet Office
Type
Written questions
Status
Answered
Date
19 October 2015
Reference
11035
House
House of Commons

To ask the Minister for the Cabinet Office, pursuant to the contribution by the hon. Member for Croydon South on 14 September 2015, Official Report, column 787, what assessment has been made of the income received by public sector employers from the deduction of trades union dues at source.

Asked by
Chris Stephens (Scottish National Party)
Answering body
Cabinet Office
Type
Written questions
Status
Answered
Date
15 October 2015
Reference
10997
House
House of Commons

To ask the Secretary of State for Justice, how many copies of each newspaper were delivered to prisons in the most recent year for which information is available.

Asked by
Philip Davies (Conservative)
Answering body
Ministry of Justice
Type
Written questions
Status
Answered
Date
16 September 2015
Reference
9431
House
House of Commons

To ask the Secretary of State for Business, Innovation and Skills, which Government and publicly-funded bodies and agencies subscribe to Met Office services; what the value is of each such subscription; and what the termination date is of each such subscription.

Asked by
Chuka Umunna (Labour)
Answering body
Department for Business, Innovation and Skills
Type
Written questions
Status
Answered
Date
15 September 2015
Reference
9210
House
House of Commons

To ask the Secretary of State for Justice, pursuant to the Answers of 7 and 21 July 2015 to Questions 5246 and 6217, how many copies of each daily or Sunday newspaper his Department's office at 102 Petty France, Westminster receives each day.

Asked by
Mark Hendrick (Labour; Co-operative Party)
Answering body
Ministry of Justice
Type
Written questions
Status
Answered
Date
14 September 2015
Reference
8992
House
House of Commons

I echo comments that have been made by Members on both sides of the House. Without our trade unions, Britain would not have become the strong nation that it is today. In securing legal representation for employees suffering discrimination and safer working conditions for their members, our nation’s unions have...

Member
Rishi Sunak (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
14 September 2015
Reference
599 c809
House
House of Commons

Does the hon. Gentleman agree that the use of the terms “working families” and “working people” as if people who are involved in trade unions are not good working people is offensive—just as offensive as this Bill is?

Member
Hannah Bardell (Scottish National Party)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
14 September 2015
Reference
599 c809
House
House of Commons

I completely reject those comments. There is nothing in this Bill that is offensive: it is a moderate Bill that is attempting to balance the rights—[Interruption.] Absolutely; it is a moderate Bill that is balancing the right to strike with the rights of people who are trying to earn a...

Member
Rishi Sunak (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
14 September 2015
Reference
599 cc809-810
House
House of Commons

Does my hon. Friend agree that the context of this Bill is that it is intended to deal with the problem of a 77% increase in the loss of working days over recent times? Last year alone the number of days lost to industrial action was higher than the average...

Member
Suella Braverman (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
14 September 2015
Reference
599 c810
House
House of Commons

I agree with my hon. Friend. In today’s world, it is important that we maintain a competitive economy and increase employment, and having trade union legislation that is updated for that modern economy is vital if trade unions are to ensure their relevance in today’s economy.

Member
Rishi Sunak (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
14 September 2015
Reference
599 c810
House
House of Commons

Will the hon. Gentleman give way?

Member
Kirsten Oswald (Scottish National Party)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
14 September 2015
Reference
599 c810
House
House of Commons

I am sorry, but I would like to make some progress.

I was proud to see that it was the original one nation Conservative Prime Minister Benjamin Disraeli who first legalised the picket line. That is a legacy that I, and I am sure my colleagues on the Front Bench, have...

Member
Rishi Sunak (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
14 September 2015
Reference
599 c810
House
House of Commons

Will the hon. Gentleman give way?

Member
Liz McInnes (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
14 September 2015
Reference
599 c810
House
House of Commons

I am sorry but I am keen to carry on.

Therefore it is right that key provisions in the existing picketing code become legally binding. It is right that unions are accountable for the behaviour of their picket lines, to tackle this problem of intimidation, otherwise I fear the reprehensible actions...

Member
Rishi Sunak (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
14 September 2015
Reference
599 cc810-1
House
House of Commons

I have been a trade unionist since I was 18 and am currently a member of Unison. I have also spent six weeks on strike. My then young family suffered the consequences and we got into debt as a result. It took a while for us to recover, but recover...

Member
Alex Cunningham (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
14 September 2015
Reference
599 c811
House
House of Commons

Does my hon. Friend agree that every time the Tories come to Parliament to introduce these sorts of powers, which are ever-more draconian, they always say they are balanced and reasonable?

Member
Andy McDonald (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
14 September 2015
Reference
599 c811
House
House of Commons

They certainly do, and they have said the same of this legislation today.

The Tories have made a big thing about opposing identity cards, but now demand that trade unionists have them as well as armbands to help single them out, yet it is unclear how compliance with these and other...

Member
Alex Cunningham (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
14 September 2015
Reference
599 cc811-3
House
House of Commons

Like my right hon. Friend the Member for Haltemprice and Howden (Mr Davis), I shall begin by declaring an interest. I also have a family link to trade unions: my grandfather was a trade union activist. He was known as Red Harry, and his obituary appeared in Socialist Worker. I...

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Oliver Dowden (Conservative)
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14 September 2015
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Saying that strikes are disruptive is not an argument against trade unions. They are meant to cause some kind of disruption, in order to show how strongly people feel and the lengths they are prepared to go to.

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Mhairi Black (Scottish National Party)
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14 September 2015
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Of course strikes are intended to be disruptive, but one of the fallacies that has been put forward by Labour Members is that the Bill proposes to take away people’s right to strike. It simply seeks to balance the interests of the workers in the trade union against those of...

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Oliver Dowden (Conservative)
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14 September 2015
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Is the hon. Gentleman aware that the chief executive of the Chartered Institute of Personnel and Development has suggested that the Bill is dealing with problems of the past and has nothing to do with the current situation?

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Kirsten Oswald (Scottish National Party)
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14 September 2015
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The hon. Lady might say that, but recent analysis shows that in the past four years, 3 million days have been lost to strike action. I am not content with the impact of that on my constituents. Hertsmere is close to London, and when there is a tube strike or...

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Oliver Dowden (Conservative)
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14 September 2015
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Many of the hon. Gentleman’s colleagues have made that same point about strike ballots, using the transport strikes in London as an illustration. The truth is, however, that the legislation will not make any difference. The ballots held by ASLEF and the National Union of Rail, Maritime and Transport Workers...

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Grahame Morris (Labour)
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14 September 2015
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Labour Members cannot have their cake and eat it. They cannot simultaneously say that this is an horrendous piece of legislation that will stop all strike action while also saying that it will have no effect. The hon. Gentleman should choose one line of argument or the other. Teachers would...

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Oliver Dowden (Conservative)
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14 September 2015
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rose—

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Thank you, Mr Deputy Speaker, for calling me to take part in this important debate. It has been interesting listening to the contributions of other hon. Members and, in particular, to the excellent speech made by my hon. Friend the Member for Glasgow South West (Chris Stephens). I hope to...

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Kirsten Oswald (Scottish National Party)
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14 September 2015
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It is a great pleasure to follow the hon. Member for East Renfrewshire (Kirsten Oswald). I am delighted to have been able to sit through this debate, because once one gets over the bluster and extreme rhetoric one sees that points have been made by Members on both sides that...

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Richard Fuller (Conservative)
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14 September 2015
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This is a Bill of naked discrimination against the trade unions, designed to cut the funding of the Labour party severely and, thus, to entrench the Tory party in power, as well as to make it almost impossible to strike in certain industrial sectors. However, it is worth quoting the...

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Michael Meacher (Labour)
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14 September 2015
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I was there in the 1980s, studying at the London School of Economics—the so-called hotbed of socialism. I had the T-shirt that proclaimed, “The LSE is revolting”. Today, we see that those on the left are at it again. They love a revolution, but this time they could not even...

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David Rutley (Conservative)
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14 September 2015
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I declare my interest as a member of Unite the union. The Bill exposes the Government’s self-appointed title as the workers’ party and their claim to be the party for working people as little more than empty rhetoric devised by the spin doctors at Tory HQ. It is a total...

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Andy McDonald (Labour)
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14 September 2015
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It is a pleasure to follow that thoughtful speech from the hon. Member for Middlesbrough (Andy McDonald), particularly as he quoted Margaret Thatcher with approval.

The history of trade unions is an honourable one, arising in the late 19th century, when workers were suffering from widespread oppression. Throughout the late 19th...

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Chris Philp (Conservative)
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14 September 2015
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But does the hon. Gentleman accept that those strikes have tripled since the Tories took over in London in 2008? It is an absolute disgrace that the Mayor of London has never sat down and met the trade unions and treated them as though they were equal partners or human...

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Catherine West (Labour)
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14 September 2015
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I think that it is very unfortunate that the RMT has chosen to be so confrontational. As my hon. Friend the Member for Uxbridge and South Ruislip (Boris Johnson) pointed out earlier, even his predecessor, Ken Livingstone, met RMT officials only once, and he insulted them in the meeting.

Questions were...

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Chris Philp (Conservative)
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14 September 2015
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I draw the House’s attention to my entry in the Register of Members’ Financial Interests, and to the fact that I am a member of the GMB and Unison. This Bill is illegal, illiberal and illiterate: illegal because it contravenes international standards; illiberal because it takes a hatchet to civil...

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Jo Stevens (Labour)
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14 September 2015
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Will the hon. Lady give way?

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Angus Brendan MacNeil (Scottish National Party)
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14 September 2015
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I will not give way.

I urge the Government to listen not only to me and to my colleagues on the Opposition Benches, but to the business community, civil liberties organisations, respected academics, trade unions and, most importantly, the public—

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Jo Stevens (Labour)
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14 September 2015
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I am grateful for the opportunity to speak in this important debate on reforming and modernising our trade unions and helping to secure Britain’s economic recovery.

Trade unions have an incredibly important and constructive role to play in terms of industrial relations, helping their members, and as a part of wider...

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Alan Mak (Conservative)
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14 September 2015
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Does my hon. Friend agree that often it is not trade union members in general who cause these strikes to happen, but a very small, politically motivated number of union organisers, and that is why it is right to have the threshold in the Bill?

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Oliver Dowden (Conservative)
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14 September 2015
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I thank my hon. Friend for his positive intervention; I completely agree. It is members of trade unions, who are working people, that the Bill seeks to protect.

The cost of this last-minute, poorly supported industrial action is substantial. It hurts our economy at home and hinders our competitiveness on the...

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Alan Mak (Conservative)
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14 September 2015
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Can the hon. Gentleman give some recent examples of “last-minute” industrial action?

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Ian Mearns (Labour)
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14 September 2015
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Anyone who has used the London underground will know that the trade unions strike on a whim and compromise the ability of shoppers, businesses and investors to go about their business. That is why it is right that the Bill brings in measures to make sure that that can never...

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Alan Mak (Conservative)
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14 September 2015
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Over the course of history, the workplace has been the scene of many grave injustices: slavery, child labour, squalid and dangerous working conditions, and desperately low pay. A lot of that has been eradicated, although sadly not for all in the United Kingdom.

Even in the modern workplace, there still exists...

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Kevin Barron (Labour)
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14 September 2015
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Does my right hon. Friend share my concern that successive Conservative Members have praised trade unions and extolled their virtues and their value, and in the next breath said that they want to restrict their freedoms and abilities to function as trade unions? Does he find that that rings hollow?

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Andy McDonald (Labour)
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14 September 2015
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It rings very hollow.

The Government would have us believe that they are impartial in passing legislation relating to the balance between employer and employee, but they are not impartial at all. In fact, in their capacity as an employer they have a significant vested interest in undermining the actions

and the...

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Kevin Barron (Labour)
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14 September 2015
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