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Has my noble friend had time to reflect on the merits and demerits of EU membership, and the decision in particular of the people of Iceland over the weekend? Does she agree that a particular significance of that, which might be of relevance to this country, is that it was a decision made by the people of Iceland by over 80% of the electorate voting? There were also marked differences between the views of people in the capital and the views of people in the wider countryside.
Has my noble friend had time to reflect on the merits and demerits of EU membership, and the decision in particular of the people of Iceland over the weekend? Does she agree that a particular significance of that, which might be of relevance to this country, is that it was a decision made by the people of Iceland by over 80% of the electorate voting? There were also marked differences between the views of people in the capital and the views of people in the wider countryside.
The referendum in Iceland is a matter for the people of Iceland and Iceland’s Government; it is not necessarily appropriate or useful to comment on other countries’ decisions in this regard. As my noble friend will be aware, this Government do not intend to rejoin the single market or the customs union, and that policy stands.
Can my noble friend cheer us all up by reminding us, in the election following five years of coalition government, when the public were asked to give their judgment on it, how many Liberal MPs were left?
Can my noble friend cheer us all up by reminding us, in the election following five years of coalition government, when the public were asked to give their judgment on it, how many Liberal MPs were left?
I am so pleased to see my noble friend also back in his place; he has been sorely missed. However, I do not think I need to repeat matters of recent history for people who so actively follow current affairs.
My Lords, it is great to hear my noble friend’s tributes to the railway engineers, who keep the trains going at the same time that they are trying to build in many places new rail developments—which is a much harder job than building a new railway on a completely open tract of land. We may be very good, as we are, with those kinds of engineers. However, on the project for HS2 and similar proposals, particularly the line to Manchester, can my noble friend say whether the department has learned any lessons from the failed attempt to build a high-speed rail network? Virtually every other country in Europe is doing it, as are many in Asia, but we seem to lack the capacity. We really ought to be able to learn some lessons from this.
My Lords, it is great to hear my noble friend’s tributes to the railway engineers, who keep the trains going at the same time that they are trying to build in many places new rail developments—which is a much harder job than building a new railway on a completely open tract of land. We may be very good, as we are, with those kinds of engineers. However, on the project for HS2 and similar proposals, particularly the line to Manchester, can my noble friend say whether the department has learned any lessons from the failed attempt to build a high-speed rail network? Virtually every other country in Europe is doing it, as are many in Asia, but we seem to lack the capacity. We really ought to be able to learn some lessons from this.
My noble friend makes an excellent point. I pay tribute to everyone who is working on the trans-Pennine upgrade. That project is phenomenal and demonstrates that we can deliver on time and on budget when all the key people pull together and work together. As my noble friend says, the performance that we have had in the past is simply unacceptable. Of course we need to look at that, learn lessons and make sure that we do not repeat the same mistakes in the future.
To ask The Leader of the House how many private member's bills introduced in the Commons in this session have received Royal Assent.
To ask The Leader of the House how many private member's bills introduced in the Commons in this session have received Royal Assent.
The following private member’s bills introduced in the Commons have received Royal Assent this session:
Animal Welfare (Import of Dogs, Cats and Ferrets) Act 2025
Dogs (Protection of Livestock) (Amendment) Act 2025
Space Industry (Indemnities) Act 2025
Absent Voting (Elections in Scotland and Wales) Act 2025
To ask The Leader of the House to list the private member's bills that started in the Commons in this session and that are now being considered in the Lords, indicating the parliamentary stage they have reached so far.
To ask The Leader of the House to list the private member's bills that started in the Commons in this session and that are now being considered in the Lords, indicating the parliamentary stage they have reached so far.
The following private member’s bills that started in the Commons are now being considered in the Lords:
Terminally Ill Adults (End of Life) Bill - Committee stage
Licensing Hours Extensions Bill - Committee stage
Unauthorised Entry to Football Matches Bill - Committee stage
Rare Cancers Bill - Second Reading
Secure 16 to 19 Academies Bill - Committee stage
The list of private member’s bills being considered in the Lords and their stage is available and kept updated in the House of Lords Business Paper document and on the Parliament website.
To ask The Leader of the House to list the Lords-starting private member's bills that have had second readings in this session, indicating which of those have begun their committee stages.
To ask The Leader of the House to list the Lords-starting private member's bills that have had second readings in this session, indicating which of those have begun their committee stages.
The following Lords-starting private member’s bills have had second readings this session, those that have begun committee stages are indicated accordingly:
Support for Infants and Parents etc (Information) Bill [HL]
Lithium-ion Battery Safety Bill [HL] - Committee stage
Regulated and Other Activities (Mandatory Reporting of Child Sexual Abuse) Bill [HL] - Committee stage
Education (Values of British Citizenship) Bill [HL]
Refugees (Family Reunion) Bill [HL] - Committee stage
Statutory Instruments (Amendment) Bill [HL]
Environmental Targets (Public Authorities) Bill [HL]
Complications from Abortions (Annual Report) Bill [HL]
Imprisonment for Public Protection (Resentencing) Bill [HL]
Women, Peace & Security Bill [HL]
Home School Education Registration and Support Bill [HL] - Committee stage
Listed Investment Companies (Classification etc) Bill [HL]
Asylum Support (Prescribed Period) Bill [HL]
Non-Consensual Sexually Explicit Images and Videos (Offences) Bill [HL]
Public Authority Algorithmic and Automated Decision-Making Systems Bill [HL]
Permitted Development Rights (Extension) Bill [HL] - Committee stage
Crown Estate (Wales) Bill [HL]
Universal Credit (Standard Allowance Entitlement of Care Leavers) Bill [HL]
Consumer Products (Control of Biocides) Bill [HL] - Committee stage
Mortgage Prisoners Inquiry Bill [HL]
Education (Assemblies) Bill [HL] - Committee stage
House of Lords (Peerage Nominations) Bill [HL] - Committee stage
Palestine Statehood (Recognition) Bill [HL] - Committee stage
Still-Birth (Definition) Bill [HL] - Committee stage
The list of private member’s bills being considered in the Lords and their stage is available and kept updated in the House of Lords Business Paper document and on the Parliament website.
Further to the question asked by my noble friend Lord Watts, we all know, and the Minister knows, that if a motorist goes through a red light, there are consequences, whether that is points on the licence, fines or maybe increased insurance costs. Can the Minister remind the House what penalties accrue to cyclists when they go through red lights?
Further to the question asked by my noble friend Lord Watts, we all know, and the Minister knows, that if a motorist goes through a red light, there are consequences, whether that is points on the licence, fines or maybe increased insurance costs. Can the Minister remind the House what penalties accrue to cyclists when they go through red lights?
The first thing to say is that the Highway Code tells cyclists to behave properly on the road. Enforcement of the Highway Code is up to chief police officers; it is not our job to tell them what to police. When there is enforcement, compliance is much greater—and what we are seeking here is not penalties but compliance. It ought to be safe to cycle and drive, and it ought especially to be safe for pedestrians, particularly those with disabilities, to cross the road when the traffic lights are red.
My noble friend, on this Question and a number of others that I have heard him reply on, demonstrates the passion that he feels for the European Union. It is a passion not shared by everyone. Some of us remember that the 40 years when we were in the European Union were not exactly flowing with milk and honey as far as the British economy was concerned.
My noble friend, on this Question and a number of others that I have heard him reply on, demonstrates the passion that he feels for the European Union. It is a passion not shared by everyone. Some of us remember that the 40 years when we were in the European Union were not exactly flowing with milk and honey as far as the British economy was concerned.
I am sure my noble friend and I agree on many things, but Brexit is not one of them. I hope that when he talks about our experience in the European Union he will acknowledge the OBR’s calculations that, had we remained in the European Union, by the end of this Parliament the economy would be £100 billion larger than it will be otherwise. That is a significant disbenefit of Brexit. As my noble friend knows, the manifesto stands.
Can my noble friend the Minister tell me how adversely the rolling stock strategy has been affected by the cancellation of the Crewe and Manchester legs of HS2?
Can my noble friend the Minister tell me how adversely the rolling stock strategy has been affected by the cancellation of the Crewe and Manchester legs of HS2?
The abrupt cancellation of phase 2a of HS2 necessitates thinking through again the rolling stock strategy for the whole of HS2. It is one of a number of really enormous issues that the new chief executive and new chair of the board of HS2 are grappling with, because it is about time that both the Government and the country knew how much had been done for the money that is currently being spent, how long the project will now take to deliver and how much it will cost, and we do not know any of those things currently.
To ask His Majesty's Government how much has been spent to date by (1) the local authorities involved, and (2) His Majesty's Government, in preparing to reform local government in accordance with the English Devolution and Community Empowerment Bill.
To ask His Majesty's Government how much has been spent to date by (1) the local authorities involved, and (2) His Majesty's Government, in preparing to reform local government in accordance with the English Devolution and Community Empowerment Bill.
The Government does not centrally hold information about how much local authorities and the Government have spent on preparing for the reform of local government.
A full impact assessment has been conducted by the Government as part of the requirements for the English Devolution and Community Empowerment Bill. It was given a green rating by the Regulatory Policy Committee, indicating it is fit for purpose. The IA has considered costs across the Bill’s policies which will reform local government, and it has been determined these will not be disproportionate and the relevant mitigations will be in place where required. The impact assessment has been published online and can be found here.
To ask His Majesty's Government, further to the Written Answer by Lord Hanson of Flint on 17 July (HL9084), how many police officers left the force in the year ending 31 March 2025, broken down by how many served (1) for less than 12 months, (2) between 12 months and 5 years, (3)...
To ask His Majesty's Government, further to the Written Answer by Lord Hanson of Flint on 17 July (HL9084), how many police officers left the force in the year ending 31 March 2025, broken down by how many served (1) for less than 12 months, (2) between 12 months and 5 years, (3)...
The Home Office collects and publishes data annually on the number of police officer leavers in the ‘Police Workforce, England and Wales’ statistical bulletin.
Information on the length of service of leavers is available in table JL6 of the data tables accompanying the publication.
Table 1: Police officer leavers (headcount) by length of service in the year ending 31 March 2025, England and Wales.
Length of service group | Headcount of officer leavers | Proportion (%) of all leavers |
Less than 1 year | 930 | 10.3% |
1 to less than 2 years | 1,011 | 11.2% |
2 to less than 3 years | 637 | 7.1% |
3 to less than 4 years | 446 | 5.0% |
4 to less than 5 years | 407 | 4.5% |
5 to less than 10 years | 839 | 9.3% |
10 to less than 15 years | 372 | 4.1% |
15 to less than 20 years | 760 | 8.5% |
20 to less than 25 years | 1,235 | 13.7% |
25 to less than 30 years | 1,202 | 13.4% |
30 years or over | 1,148 | 12.8% |
Total | 8,987 | 100.0% |
Note:
- Excludes transfers to another force
The retention of all officers, both new recruits and experienced officers remain essential to increasing public confidence in policing. This is why forces should be using strong evidence-based strategies to support retention and progression of existing officers, as well as continuing to recruit new officers using high quality recruitment processes that maintain standards.
My Lords, the exchanges here, as is often the case, really do not reflect the horror of what we see on our television screens night after night after night, which constitutes what is happening in Gaza. We have become immune. It is almost routine these days to see hospitals bombed, schools attacked, trade envoys or humanitarian envoys attacked, and children killed by the thousand. When all these things are going on in front of our eyes and are unchallengeable, to argue about precise definitions of genocide somehow misses the central point, especially when children are now being shot as they queue for food. That has plumbed a depth we have never seen before. Surely, we can acknowledge that whether there is genocide or not, there is no argument whatever that multiple severe war crimes have repeatedly been committed by the Israelis in the Gaza territory.
My Lords, the exchanges here, as is often the case, really do not reflect the horror of what we see on our television screens night after night after night, which constitutes what is happening in Gaza. We have become immune. It is almost routine these days to see hospitals bombed, schools attacked, trade envoys or humanitarian envoys attacked, and children killed by the thousand. When all these things are going on in front of our eyes and are unchallengeable, to argue about precise definitions of genocide somehow misses the central point, especially when children are now being shot as they queue for food. That has plumbed a depth we have never seen before. Surely, we can acknowledge that whether there is genocide or not, there is no argument whatever that multiple severe war crimes have repeatedly been committed by the Israelis in the Gaza territory.
Like my noble friend, I worry about our immunity to this and that we lose our capacity for compassion and to feel the horror of what is happening. I note the concern that we see on the streets, which is sometimes expressed in ways that we do not agree with and would not wish to see further. The worst thing about what is happening is that it is so preventable. The attacks on hospitals and civilians, including children, and the danger that these put the hostages in, could and should be stopped. We are hopeful that by continuing to make the statements that we make and to exert diplomatic pressure on the Government of Israel and talk to them—Israel should be a close ally and friend; historically it has been so close to people in this country, which makes it all the more saddening to see what is happening—very soon we can see an end to this needless violence.
Does my noble friend agree that we would be in a far better position to deal with issues like border security, access to services and knowing who is in the country illegally and who is not if the last Labour Government’s identity card scheme had not been scrapped by the Tories and the Liberals?
Does my noble friend agree that we would be in a far better position to deal with issues like border security, access to services and knowing who is in the country illegally and who is not if the last Labour Government’s identity card scheme had not been scrapped by the Tories and the Liberals?
I am grateful to my noble friend for reminding me that, when I was last a Minister in the Home Office, we had an identity card scheme in place that was scrapped by the then-incoming Coalition Government of 2010-2015. It is an expensive business to re-jig ID cards, but all options are always being examined by this Government. I am genuinely sorry that the Coalition Government took the decision at the time to scrap that deal.
My Lords, I was very taken with my noble friend Lord Hunt’s forensic analysis of the coalition Government’s performance on health. He mentioned the £3.5 billion figure. I know that my noble friend the Minister is not able to respond to that now, but would it not be very useful and enlightening for us all if we knew precisely how much money was wasted by the coalition Government at that time?
My Lords, I was very taken with my noble friend Lord Hunt’s forensic analysis of the coalition Government’s performance on health. He mentioned the £3.5 billion figure. I know that my noble friend the Minister is not able to respond to that now, but would it not be very useful and enlightening for us all if we knew precisely how much money was wasted by the coalition Government at that time?
I can only say that the ongoing forensic work will uncover what has happened over the past few years, but I think we all know that, at the moment, the NHS is not fit for purpose; there needs to be radical change. This Government are absolutely committed to that, and we will make sure that it happens at pace and safely, putting patients front and centre in the delivery of health services in this country.
To ask His Majesty's Government how many police officers left the force in the past 12 months, broken down by how many served (1) for less than 12 months, (2) between 12 months and 5 years, (3) between 5 years and 10 years, and (4) over 10 years.
To ask His Majesty's Government how many police officers left the force in the past 12 months, broken down by how many served (1) for less than 12 months, (2) between 12 months and 5 years, (3) between 5 years and 10 years, and (4) over 10 years.
The Home Office collects and publishes data annually on the number of police officer leavers in the ‘Police Workforce, England and Wales’ statistical bulletin.
Information on the length of service of leavers is available in table JL6 of the data tables accompanying the publication.
Table 1 below shows the number of police officer leavers, by length of service, in England and Wales for the year ending 31 March 2024. In the year ending 31 March 2024 there were 9,236 police officers leaving the police forces in England and Wales. 16.2% of all leavers had less than 1 years service, while 12.3% of all leavers had more than 30 years service.
Table 1: Police officer leavers (headcount) by length of service in the year ending 31 March 2024, England and Wales.
Length of service | Headcount Officer leavers | % of all leavers |
Less than 1 year | 1,495 | 16.2% |
1 to 2 years | 1,082 | 11.7% |
2 to 3 years | 606 | 6.6% |
3 to 4 years | 484 | 5.2% |
4 to 5 years | 297 | 3.2% |
5 to 10 years | 674 | 7.3% |
10 to 15 years | 393 | 4.3% |
15 to 20 years | 749 | 8.1% |
20 to 25 years | 1,028 | 11.1% |
25 to 30 years | 1,289 | 14.0% |
30 years or over | 1,139 | 12.3% |
Total | 9,236 | 100.0% |
Note:
- Excludes transfers
Data on police officer leavers for the year ending 31 March 2025 will be published on 23 July 2025.
Retention is a key focus for the Home Office and the NPCC and forces should be using evidence-based strategies to manage the retention and progression of existing officers, as well as continuing to recruit new officers.
To ask His Majesty's Government whether they will list the results of the mayoral elections held on 1 May, including the turnout percentage in each mayoralty.
To ask His Majesty's Government whether they will list the results of the mayoral elections held on 1 May, including the turnout percentage in each mayoralty.
Elections are run by independent Returning Officers, who are responsible for publishing election results.
My Department does not have a formal role in collating and publishing information on the results of Mayoral elections.
I have a question for the Minister; I am pretty sure that the answer will be that he has no idea, and that will not be any reflection on him because I do not have any idea either. What has been the total cost to the public purse of the implementation of freedom of information legislation for all the numerous organisations, large and small, across the public sector?
I have a question for the Minister; I am pretty sure that the answer will be that he has no idea, and that will not be any reflection on him because I do not have any idea either. What has been the total cost to the public purse of the implementation of freedom of information legislation for all the numerous organisations, large and small, across the public sector?
Perhaps unsurprisingly, I do not carry that figure in my head. I can tell my noble friend that ARIA has spent 300 hours over the past few months dealing with requests under the Environmental Information Regulations alone, so he can imagine the scale of requests that can come through other things. I am sure the cost of providing information requests to public bodies has been very high.
Does my noble friend recall that, before the last election, the Conservative Government—for reasons that slightly bewildered me and I think some others—decided to massively extend the franchise to people living abroad who had lived abroad for more than 15 years, many of whom had barely ever lived in the country and for whom it was almost impossible to establish even an address at which they were last resident in the United Kingdom? Now that we have had an election under these rules, can my noble friend at least publish for us the extent to which these newly enfranchised people exercised their vote at the last election, which could of course potentially have had an effect in individual constituencies, how much the system cost and whether there are any plans to revert to the previously very satisfactory situation?
Does my noble friend recall that, before the last election, the Conservative Government—for reasons that slightly bewildered me and I think some others—decided to massively extend the franchise to people living abroad who had lived abroad for more than 15 years, many of whom had barely ever lived in the country and for whom it was almost impossible to establish even an address at which they were last resident in the United Kingdom? Now that we have had an election under these rules, can my noble friend at least publish for us the extent to which these newly enfranchised people exercised their vote at the last election, which could of course potentially have had an effect in individual constituencies, how much the system cost and whether there are any plans to revert to the previously very satisfactory situation?
My Lords, my noble friend makes an interesting point. Just to reassure him, part of our strategy in the summer will reflect on the very issues that he is talking about, and in it we will set out our strategy on wider electoral reform, including donations and the source of donations.
My Lords, as usual, these exchanges are, rightly, reasonably calm and measured but they do not get close to the horrors that we see on our television screens, on news bulletins, night after night, with one horror overtaking another—the latest, of course, seeing starving people herded into the south of Israel and food supplies being used as a weapon of war. One report last week encapsulated it all: a mother, a doctor at a hospital in the south of Gaza, losing nine of her 10 children in an air strike. They were aged from six months to 10 years. I do not know what the right language is to describe this, whether it is carpet bombing, genocide or whatever, but I do know that it is evil—and I would love to hear my noble friend and my Government describe it in precisely those terms.
My Lords, as usual, these exchanges are, rightly, reasonably calm and measured but they do not get close to the horrors that we see on our television screens, on news bulletins, night after night, with one horror overtaking another—the latest, of course, seeing starving people herded into the south of Israel and food supplies being used as a weapon of war. One report last week encapsulated it all: a mother, a doctor at a hospital in the south of Gaza, losing nine of her 10 children in an air strike. They were aged from six months to 10 years. I do not know what the right language is to describe this, whether it is carpet bombing, genocide or whatever, but I do know that it is evil—and I would love to hear my noble friend and my Government describe it in precisely those terms.
If I am learning one thing about this job, it is that you can use whatever words and make whatever statements you like, and it has some effect—it is galvanising and it is
important that the people of our country know where their Government stand and that we work with our partners and allies internationally to make clear the position of the United Kingdom—but what happens next lies squarely in the hands of quite a small group of people in the Israeli Government. I would have hoped that the statements that have been made and the information we now have coming out of Gaza would have led to a change in position, because the scheme they have come up with is clearly failing. It is going to lead to more death, starvation and desperation in that community and, ultimately, more violence. We need to get everybody we can around a table so that the dialogue can begin again and we can get the cease- fire that we so desperately want to see.
My Lords, the only high-speed line we have in this country is the 70-mile line from London to the Channel Tunnel, which opened in 2007. In the meantime, countries all around the world have been developing high-speed rail, while we, under the previous Tory Government, simply cancelled two of the high-speed lines that were being prepared. First, can my noble friend at the very least protect the routes of the planned lines to the north-west and the north-east? Secondly, is it not time that this Government developed a strategy for high-speed rail, which is being done by so many comparable countries across the world?
My Lords, the only high-speed line we have in this country is the 70-mile line from London to the Channel Tunnel, which opened in 2007. In the meantime, countries all around the world have been developing high-speed rail, while we, under the previous Tory Government, simply cancelled two of the high-speed lines that were being prepared. First, can my noble friend at the very least protect the routes of the planned lines to the north-west and the north-east? Secondly, is it not time that this Government developed a strategy for high-speed rail, which is being done by so many comparable countries across the world?
My noble friend is right to refer to the peremptory cancellation of phase 2a of HS2 by the previous Government. One of the first questions I answered in this House was from the noble Lord, Lord McLoughlin, who asked me what the alternative was. The truth is that the previous Government cancelled phase 2a without regard to any alternative, and this Government have to devise what they will now do. We have an even more urgent job than that, because the present state of HS2 as a project is not where any of us would like it to be. It was neglected by the previous Government, so we have to fix that—which the new chief executive is in the course of doing—and we then have to persuade ourselves that investment in railways of this sort is good because it will allow us to manage them properly.