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Lords motion to take note of the first report of the Economic Affairs Committee on National debt: it's time for tough decisions (HL 5). Agreed to on question.

Lead member
Lord Bridges of Headley
Answering member
Lord Livermore
Department
Treasury; Economic Affairs Committee
Type
Debates on select committee reports
Date
25 April 2025
Reference
845 cc871-908
House
House of Lords

My Lords, it gives me great pleasure to open this debate. Let me start by thanking everyone who has come in on this lovely sunny day, and, in particular, the members of the committee for their hard work and commitment over the years in which I was chair. Sadly, I...

Member
Lord Bridges of Headley (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
25 April 2025
Reference
845 cc871-4
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I start by saying what an excellent and challenging report this is. It is exactly the kind of thing that the House of Lords exists to do and which political parties find very difficult to address. I congratulate the noble Lord, Lord Bridges of Headley, whom I have...

Member
Lord Liddle (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
25 April 2025
Reference
845 cc873-5
House
House of Lords

My Lords, in the light of recent events, the last report from the noble Lord, Lord Bridges, as the brilliant chair of our Economic Affairs Committee, could not have been more opportune. As he indicated, the growth of government borrowing in the last 20 years tells us why we have...

Member
Lord Razzall (Liberal Democrat)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
25 April 2025
Reference
845 cc875-6
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I thank the noble Lord, Lord Bridges, for his time as chair of the Economic Affairs Committee and for securing this debate. He played a crucial role in ensuring that the committee’s work was relevant, timely and newsworthy. We can see that in the reports that were published...

Member
Lord Burns (Crossbench)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
25 April 2025
Reference
845 cc876-7
House
House of Lords

My Lords, it is a pleasure to follow the noble Lord, Lord Burns, not for the first time in my life. It is also a pleasure to congratulate the noble Lord, Lord Bridges, on his incisive speech today and his excellent chairmanship of the committee that produced this report.

Despite the...

Member
Lord Lamont of Lerwick (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
25 April 2025
Reference
845 cc877-8
House
House of Lords

My Lords, it is a pleasure, if somewhat daunting, to follow the former Permanent Secretary of the Treasury and the former Chancellor of the Exchequer, and to be shortly followed by the former Governor of the Bank of England. However, as a member of the Economic Affairs Committee, I first...

Member
Lord Londesborough (Crossbench)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
25 April 2025
Reference
845 cc878-9
House
House of Lords

My Lords, it is a pleasure to take part in this debate. I add to the congratulations to my noble friend Lord Bridges, as chairman of the committee, and its members for producing this—I was going to say “timely” report, but this debate is some seven months after the report...

Member
Lord Forsyth of Drumlean (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
25 April 2025
Reference
845 cc879-880
House
House of Lords

My Lords, it is a pleasure to speak in this debate on such an important topic, and I congratulate the noble Lord, Lord Bridges—my predecessor as chair of the Economic Affairs Committee—and thank him for his kindness in the tricky transition period between our tenures and for his time chairing...

Member
Lord Wood of Anfield (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
25 April 2025
Reference
845 cc881-2
House
House of Lords

My Lords, like others, I congratulate my noble friend Lord Bridges on his ambition and boldness in leading the Economic Affairs Committee to study the proverbially complex and nebulous subject of trying to control and direct our borrowing and the growth of our national debt.

I confess that I do not...

Member
Lord Howell of Guildford (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
25 April 2025
Reference
845 cc882-3
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I thank the noble Lord, Lord Bridges, for his truly excellent chairing of the Economic Affairs Committee and this inquiry, and for his opening remarks. This report has indeed, unfortunately, become even more relevant than it was last September. I will highlight three rather general lessons I took...

Member
Baroness Wolf of Dulwich (Crossbench)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
25 April 2025
Reference
845 cc883-4
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I was a member of your Lordships’ Economic Affairs Committee under the excellent chairmanship of my noble friend Lord Bridges of Headley when this report kicked off, but the annual musical chairs of Select Committees saw my chair move to another committee before the report got seriously under...

Member
Baroness Noakes (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
25 April 2025
Reference
845 cc884-5
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I congratulate my erstwhile colleagues on the Economic Affairs Committee on their excellent report on the national debt. I also congratulate the noble Lord, Lord Bridges, on the clarity of his opening speech and on his outstanding chairmanship of the Select Committee.

The Chancellor of the Exchequer deserves sympathy...

Member
Lord King of Lothbury (Crossbench)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
25 April 2025
Reference
845 cc885-6
House
House of Lords

My Lords, as a former member of the Economic Affairs Committee, I add my congratulations to my noble friend Lord Bridges and to the other members of the committee for the outstanding report that they have produced. It is a privilege to follow the noble Lord, Lord King, whose time...

Member
Lord Tugendhat (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
25 April 2025
Reference
845 cc886-7
House
House of Lords

It is a great pleasure to take part in this debate. It is a bit like the Economic Affairs Committee 2024-25 reunion tour, with added guest stars. I was a member of the committee, and preparing for the debate gave me an opportunity to reflect on what we achieved—or what...

Member
Lord Davies of Brixton (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
25 April 2025
Reference
845 cc887-8
House
House of Lords

My Lords, this is an extremely worthwhile report. Its worth is reflected in the fact that, despite the turbulence of the last six months, it is as relevant today as it was when it came out in September last year. As the report says, it invokes the need to make...

Member
Lord Horam (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
25 April 2025
Reference
845 cc888-9
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I congratulate the noble Lord, Lord Bridges, and his committee on their timely and well-argued report. I agree with pretty much all of it. The fact is that Britain’s national debt has more than doubled as a percentage of national income in 20 years and we have nothing...

Member
Lord Macpherson of Earl's Court (Crossbench)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
25 April 2025
Reference
845 cc889-890
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I congratulate the noble Lord, Lord Bridges, and his committee on this valuable report and its hard-hitting title, and my fellow Peers in this debate on their many excellent speeches. It is a pleasure to follow the noble Lord, Lord Macpherson of Earl’s Court. I declare my interest...

Member
Lord Moynihan of Chelsea (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
25 April 2025
Reference
845 cc890-1
House
House of Lords

My Lords, it is a pleasure to have the opportunity to participate, albeit briefly, in this morning’s proceedings. I enthusiastically join all previous speakers in congratulating the noble Lord, Lord Bridges, and the wider committee on its report. It provides a forensic, grim and justifiably challenging—drawing on adjectives used by...

Member
Lord Browne of Ladyton (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
25 April 2025
Reference
845 cc891-2
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I congratulate the noble Lord, Lord Bridges, on this excellent report and welcome the discussion today. It is more urgent than

when it was published, of course, and it is an issue that is pressing on us as rapidly as it is possible to imagine, as we see...

Member
Baroness Cash (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
25 April 2025
Reference
845 cc892-3
House
House of Lords