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Type
Public acts
Date
14 May 2014
Reference
2014 c. 22; CHAP 22 2014
Type
Legislative formal proceedings
Date
14 May 2014
Reference
580 cc862-0
House
House of Commons
Type
Legislative formal proceedings
Date
14 May 2014
Reference
753 c1919
House
House of Lords

Moved by

Lord Taylor of Holbeach

That this House do not insist on its Amendments 16 and 24, to which the Commons have disagreed for their Reasons 16A and 24A.

Lords Amendments 16 and 24

16 : Before Clause 60, insert the following new Clause—

“Child trafficking guardians for all potential child victims of trafficking...

Member
Lord Taylor of Holbeach (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
12 May 2014
Reference
753 cc1643-1655
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I have no doubt that we all wholeheartedly agree across the Floor of the House and in Parliament generally that there is a fundamental need for victims of child trafficking to receive the very best support that we can possibly offer them. Noble Lords will be aware of...

Member
Lord Taylor of Holbeach (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
12 May 2014
Reference
753 c1655
House
House of Lords

My Lords, would the Minister like to add Anthony Steen to that esteemed list?

Member
Lord Spicer (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
12 May 2014
Reference
753 c1655
House
House of Lords

I am very happy to mention Mr Steen, whose work has been exemplary on this issue. I willingly accede to my noble friend’s suggestion.

Noble Lords may or may not be aware that there have been a number of meetings to discuss this important issue over the past few weeks, involving...

Member
Lord Taylor of Holbeach (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
12 May 2014
Reference
753 cc1656-7
House
House of Lords

Moved by

Baroness Butler-Sloss

As an amendment to Motion A, at end to insert “but do propose Amendment 16B in lieu”.

16B: Before Clause 60, insert the following new Clause—

“Report on provision of child trafficking guardians for child victims of trafficking in human beings

Within twelve months of the date of dissolution of the...

Member
Baroness Butler-Sloss (Crossbench)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
12 May 2014
Reference
753 cc1657-8
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I put down this amendment during a period of intense discussions last week in order to make it possible to continue the discussions with the Minister, the Home Secretary herself and the lawyers in the Home Office. I am absolutely delighted with the prospect of these pilots; the...

Member
Baroness Butler-Sloss (Crossbench)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
12 May 2014
Reference
753 c1658
House
House of Lords

I wish to speak on this amendment—forgive me for being so tardy—as I just wish to place certain things on record.

I support the amendment tabled by the noble and learned Baroness, Lady Butler-Sloss, and am deeply disappointed and irritated by the amendment tabled by the Minister. While the noble Lord...

Member
Baroness Royall of Blaisdon (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
12 May 2014
Reference
753 cc1658-9
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I note that at the last stage the noble Baroness and I both used the term “dogged” to describe the work done by those

who advocated—if that is not the wrong term in this context—the guardianship provisions. I sense that the House would like to move on as...

Member
Baroness Hamwee (Liberal Democrat)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
12 May 2014
Reference
753 cc1659-1660
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I also have a question before we conclude the debate on this issue. I add my warmest thanks to the noble and learned Baroness, Lady Butler-Sloss, the noble Lord, Lord McColl, and the noble Lord, Lord Taylor of Holbeach, for the huge efforts which have gone into doing...

Member
Baroness Williams of Crosby (Liberal Democrat)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
12 May 2014
Reference
753 c1660
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I have one brief question. No one can doubt my commitment to this group of children and to the work of my noble and learned friend Lady Butler-Sloss and the noble Lord, Lord McColl. It is crucial that we move forward and I am particularly grateful that the...

Member
Baroness Howarth of Breckland (Crossbench)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
12 May 2014
Reference
753 cc1660-1
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I thank the Minister very much for all his help and co-operation. He spotted three of us plotting in a corner of your Lordships’ House and, instead of avoiding us, he made a bee-line for us and was open and friendly. We are very grateful to him, especially...

Member
Lord McColl of Dulwich (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
12 May 2014
Reference
753 c1661
House
House of Lords

My Lords, this has been an interesting and useful debate. I deliberately did not mention the reasons for the commons rejection when I made my introductory speech. It is for Erskine May rather than a humble Minister to determine these matters. I thought it was more important to present the...

Member
Lord Taylor of Holbeach (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
12 May 2014
Reference
753 cc1661-2
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I am grateful to the Minister for saying that it is not now envisaged that the trials will start before September, and of course I accept that. However, the amendment proposed by the noble and learned Baroness states that the report should be ready within a year of...

Member
Baroness Royall of Blaisdon (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
12 May 2014
Reference
753 c1662
House
House of Lords

Yes. I can also confirm that the way in which the enabling clause will be constructed will make it clear that there will be tabling of regulations designed to bring in the necessary power. There will also be a section that will ensure that the report is delivered so that...

Member
Lord Taylor of Holbeach (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
12 May 2014
Reference
753 c1663
House
House of Lords

I apologise to my noble friend for interrupting. Given the shortage of time and the hope that we will bring in this pilot scheme as early as September, can the Minister give an assurance that the discussions that I referred to with the police and the border agency can take...

Member
Baroness Williams of Crosby (Liberal Democrat)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
12 May 2014
Reference
753 c1663
House
House of Lords

I will certainly recommend that that is the case. It seems essential that we make sure that we know how the trials fit in with people who, under existing arrangements, carry out responsibilities connected with this area. They are diverse, as my noble friend points out. The border agency, the...

Member
Lord Taylor of Holbeach (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
12 May 2014
Reference
753 c1663
House
House of Lords

My Lords, for the second time this afternoon, I apologise to the House, and particularly to the noble Baroness, Lady Royall, for trying to cut short any discussion—it has been extremely interesting and very constructive.

I will say two things about the Government. First, I am very glad that we got...

Member
Baroness Butler-Sloss (Crossbench)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
12 May 2014
Reference
753 cc1663-4
House
House of Lords