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To ask the Secretary of State for Justice when his Department will publish revised draft rules to replace the Secure Training Centre Rules (Amendment) Rules 2007.

Asked by
David Burrowes (Conservative)
Answering body
Ministry of Justice
Type
Written questions
Status
Answered
Date
18 November 2008
Reference
483 c340W; 235936
House
House of Commons

Lords debate on motion to take note of the report of the Joint Committee on Human Rights on The Use of Restraint in Secure Training Centres. (HL 65 2007-08). Agreed to on question.

Lead member
Lord Dubs
Answering member
Lord Adonis
Department
Department for Children, Schools and Families; Joint Committee on Human Rights
Type
Debates on select committee reports
Date
22 July 2008
Reference
703 c1659-75
House
House of Lords

rose to move, That this House takes note of the report of the Joint Committee on Human Rights on The Use of Restraint in Secure Training Centres (11th Report, HL Paper 65). The noble Lord said: My Lords, I welcome this opportunity to initiate a debate on this subject. I...

Member
Lord Dubs (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
22 July 2008
Reference
703 c1659-62
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I, too, am enormously grateful to the noble Lord, Lord Dubs, for giving us, even on this last day of term, the opportunity to turn our attention to this most important report concerning the use of restraint in secure training centres. I am somewhat puzzled that the Ministry...

Member
Baroness Falkner of Margravine (Liberal Democrat)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
22 July 2008
Reference
703 c1664-7
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I am very grateful to the noble Lord, Lord Dubs, for that powerful defence of human rights and for expressing how we need to ensure that the regime in secure training centres leads to people coming out of those institutions better equipped to fulfil their life within society....

Member
Bishop of Ripon and Leeds (Bishops (affiliation))
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
22 July 2008
Reference
703 c1662-4
House
House of Lords

My Lords, my noble friend Lord Dubs made a powerful speech in which he drew the House’s attention to the report of the Joint Committee on Human Rights on the use of restraint in secure training centres. We have also had compelling contributions about non-violence, relationship building and human rights...

Member
Lord Adonis (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
22 July 2008
Reference
703 c1668-73
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I, too, join other noble Lords in thanking the noble Lord, Lord Dubs, for initiating this important debate. If my reply is on the short side, it is only because I share so much of the sentiments articulated by the noble Lord and the noble Baroness, Lady Falkner....

Member
Viscount Bridgeman (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
22 July 2008
Reference
703 c1667-8
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I thank all noble Lords who contributed to this serious debate. I hope, taking what the Minister said, that it will have influenced practice and behaviour in these centres, difficult as they are. I welcome the fact that the Minister said that the YSB will publish annual statistics....

Member
Lord Dubs (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
22 July 2008
Reference
703 c1674-5
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I greatly regret that the noble Baroness did not have a chance to consider the government response fully while preparing her remarks. Had I been aware, I would myself have sent it to her earlier. Unfortunately, I cannot undertake that government responses will be sent in every individual...

Member
Lord Adonis (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
22 July 2008
Reference
703 c1674
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I was just coming to my question. In future, when the Government’s response to a committee report comes out just one sitting day before the debate itself, would the department be kind enough to draw our attention to it by e-mail or send us an electronic copy?

Member
Baroness Falkner of Margravine (Liberal Democrat)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
22 July 2008
Reference
703 c1674
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I thank the Minister for giving way. I wanted to come back in before he concluded. He has not covered some of the issues that I raised, particularly in relation to why his department rather than the Ministry of Justice is dealing with the debate. Leaving that aside,...

Member
Baroness Falkner of Margravine (Liberal Democrat)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
22 July 2008
Reference
703 c1673
House
House of Lords

Secure Training Centre (Amendment) Rules 2007 (SI 2007/1709). Considered by Delegated Legislation Committee. Minutes of proceedings at UP 7 2006-07.

Type
Debates on delegated legislation; Delegated Legislation Committee proceedings
Date
28 November 2007
Reference
4th DLC
House
House of Commons

Housing Act 2004 (Commencement No 9) (England and Wales) Order 2007 (SI 2007/2471); Secure Training Centre (Amendment) Rules 2007 (SI 2007/1709). Ordered to be referred to a Delegated Legislation Committee.

Type
Legislative formal proceedings
Date
10 October 2007
Reference
464 c417
House
House of Commons

My Lords, a while ago in Grand Committee, the noble Earl, Lord Listowel, and I were talking about the impact of Section 9 on the children of destitute asylum seekers. Now here we are in the main Chamber, talking about the impact of some of the measures affecting children in...

Member
Lord Dholakia (Liberal Democrat)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
18 July 2007
Reference
694 c299-301
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I support everything that the noble Lord has just said and the remarks made by the noble Lord, Lord Carlile. The rules are defective in that they refer to ““good order and discipline””. That phrase should be totally rejected because it gives the wrong impression and sends out...

Member
Lord Elystan-Morgan (Crossbench)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
18 July 2007
Reference
694 c301
House
House of Lords

My Lords, not for the first time the noble Lord, Lord Elystan-Morgan, at the end of a debate and before the winding-up process is completed, has made a devastating point. The fact of the matter is that the real implication of those words is that the rule of law will...

Member
Lord Kingsland (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
18 July 2007
Reference
694 c301-2
House
House of Lords

My Lords, like other noble Lords, I thank the noble Lord, Lord Carlile, for the opportunity he has given us, by praying against the statutory instrument, to have a serious and sober debate on these very important issues. I am very grateful to him for his constructive approach and for...

Member
Lord Hunt of Kings Heath (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
18 July 2007
Reference
694 c303-4
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I hope that I will be permitted the opportunity of a short reply to this debate. I should have congratulated the Minister earlier on his new role and I do so very genuinely. I also congratulate Sally Keeble, his honourable friend, on her contribution to the debate in...

Member
Lord Carlile of Berriew (Liberal Democrat)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
18 July 2007
Reference
694 c309-11
House
House of Lords

My Lords, the words appear in the statute; I was quite wrong in saying that I could not think of any such use previously, but it follows two other matters in a list of three. Is it the Minister’s view that, as a matter of law, that third category of...

Member
Lord Elystan-Morgan (Crossbench)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
18 July 2007
Reference
694 c304
House
House of Lords

My Lords, it appears in the list, as the noble Lord says, and, as far as I know, there is no prioritisation in that list. My understanding is that ““good order and discipline”” is also to be found in the young offender institution rules and the prison rules. I also...

Member
Lord Hunt of Kings Heath (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
18 July 2007
Reference
694 c304-9
House
House of Lords