I, too, wish to support the amendment moved by the noble Lord, Lord Greaves, and the remarks made by several of my colleagues on these Benches. If this board was abolished in this rather casual way, without any suggestion of what should replace it, it would be regarded by writers...

I, too, wish to support the amendment moved by the noble Lord, Lord Greaves, and the remarks made by several of my colleagues on these Benches. If this board was abolished in this rather casual way, without any suggestion of what should replace it, it would be regarded by writers...

My Lords, with respect we are faced with an issue of law—

My Lords, with respect we are faced with an issue of law—

I am sure the noble Baroness would not wish to be unfair to the Government in any respect, but it has been argued that, for example, the doctrine of proportionality is already part of European law and was therefore part of the law in this area before this Bill was...

I am sure the noble Baroness would not wish to be unfair to the Government in any respect, but it has been argued that, for example, the doctrine of proportionality is already part of European law and was therefore part of the law in this area before this Bill was...

I hesitate to interrupt the right reverend Prelate again, but surely the word "proportionate" is already implied by European law. Therefore, for our statute to use the same word is merely accepting a European legal doctrine. Where is the freshness?

I hesitate to interrupt the right reverend Prelate again, but surely the word "proportionate" is already implied by European law. Therefore, for our statute to use the same word is merely accepting a European legal doctrine. Where is the freshness?

My Lords—

My Lords—

I was not intervening. I thought that the noble Lord had concluded. If he has concluded, perhaps I may follow him and his brethren.

I was not intervening. I thought that the noble Lord had concluded. If he has concluded, perhaps I may follow him and his brethren.

I give way briefly.

I give way briefly.

The noble Earl was no doubt fortunate in his circumstances. But to hear grammar schools defended on the ground that Government should not put into legislation an ambition to improve equality of outcome and equality of opportunity is a quite false attack. When the noble Lord speaks of grammar schools,...

The noble Earl was no doubt fortunate in his circumstances. But to hear grammar schools defended on the ground that Government should not put into legislation an ambition to improve equality of outcome and equality of opportunity is a quite false attack. When the noble Lord speaks of grammar schools,...

It would be a travesty if the ambition of equality of outcome, or, indeed, equality of opportunity, were left in the mouths of spokesmen of the Opposition, whose party has done very little to promote either objective in our society—in particular the noble Lord, Lord Tebbit, who takes as his...

It would be a travesty if the ambition of equality of outcome, or, indeed, equality of opportunity, were left in the mouths of spokesmen of the Opposition, whose party has done very little to promote either objective in our society—in particular the noble Lord, Lord Tebbit, who takes as his...

The noble Lord omits to notice that several words in his legislation have been amended, although I stand with those who wish for more amendments and greater strength in the trade union movement. When he suggests that he did not go to university because economic forces prevented it, he needs...

The noble Lord omits to notice that several words in his legislation have been amended, although I stand with those who wish for more amendments and greater strength in the trade union movement. When he suggests that he did not go to university because economic forces prevented it, he needs...

While my noble friend is listing those who spoke, would he recognise that there is undoubtedly considerable concern at the latest remarks of my noble friend the Minister, and that there would be considerable support on these Benches, if it ever comes to it, for amending or removing parts of...

While my noble friend is listing those who spoke, would he recognise that there is undoubtedly considerable concern at the latest remarks of my noble friend the Minister, and that there would be considerable support on these Benches, if it ever comes to it, for amending or removing parts of...

My Lords, I, too, congratulate my noble friend Lord Gavron on introducing what is, in fact, a very modest Bill concerned with disclosure and transparency. He has been confronted in the debate from many parts of the House with problems that the Bill does not attempt to deal with. They...

My Lords, I, too, congratulate my noble friend Lord Gavron on introducing what is, in fact, a very modest Bill concerned with disclosure and transparency. He has been confronted in the debate from many parts of the House with problems that the Bill does not attempt to deal with. They...

My Lords, I feel that this order, which will undoubtedly go through, should not proceed without some mention of its extreme importance in the development of our employment law. When the industrial tribunals, as they were then called, were established in 1964, they were set up with a legally qualified...

My Lords, I feel that this order, which will undoubtedly go through, should not proceed without some mention of its extreme importance in the development of our employment law. When the industrial tribunals, as they were then called, were established in 1964, they were set up with a legally qualified...

My Lords, as usual my noble friend makes a powerful case for something that would bring benefits to ordinary consumers and small businesses. It would further the purposes of government in producing new entities which would lend in situations where ordinary banks, if I may call them that, would have...

My Lords, as usual my noble friend makes a powerful case for something that would bring benefits to ordinary consumers and small businesses. It would further the purposes of government in producing new entities which would lend in situations where ordinary banks, if I may call them that, would have...

My Lords, the amendment raises the question raised in Committee when my noble friend Lady Turner of Camden and I tabled an amendment concerning the operation of remuneration committees, which in all companies and most banks recommend the rewards and remuneration for directors. In my unavoidable absence the first time...

My Lords, the amendment raises the question raised in Committee when my noble friend Lady Turner of Camden and I tabled an amendment concerning the operation of remuneration committees, which in all companies and most banks recommend the rewards and remuneration for directors. In my unavoidable absence the first time...

My Lords, I am very grateful to the Minister for his answer. My mind naturally returns to the many occasions on which the late Lord Dormand tried again and again, almost weekly, to put before your Lordships the scandal of remuneration being extorted from companies and banks by directors and...

My Lords, I am very grateful to the Minister for his answer. My mind naturally returns to the many occasions on which the late Lord Dormand tried again and again, almost weekly, to put before your Lordships the scandal of remuneration being extorted from companies and banks by directors and...

Amendment 20 20: After Clause 21, insert the following new Clause— ““Remuneration committee (1) The Treasury may by order make provision concerning a remuneration committee in consequence of and furtherance of this Part and of Part 3 of this Act. (2) An order (““a remuneration order””) under this section— (a)...

Amendment 20 20: After Clause 21, insert the following new Clause— ““Remuneration committee (1) The Treasury may by order make provision concerning a remuneration committee in consequence of and furtherance of this Part and of Part 3 of this Act. (2) An order (““a remuneration order””) under this section— (a)...

Perhaps I may ask the noble Lord whether he realises how much I value his experienced view on this extraordinary phenomenon in our social life and how right he is that a public voice on the remuneration committee would not be the same as a veto. Nevertheless, a public voice...

Perhaps I may ask the noble Lord whether he realises how much I value his experienced view on this extraordinary phenomenon in our social life and how right he is that a public voice on the remuneration committee would not be the same as a veto. Nevertheless, a public voice...

Amendment 145 145: After Clause 164, insert the following new Clause— ““164A Remuneration committee (1) The Treasury may by order (a ““remuneration order””) make provision concerning a remuneration committee in consequence of and in furtherance of this Part and of Part 1 of this Act. (2) An order under this...

Amendment 145 145: After Clause 164, insert the following new Clause— ““164A Remuneration committee (1) The Treasury may by order (a ““remuneration order””) make provision concerning a remuneration committee in consequence of and in furtherance of this Part and of Part 1 of this Act. (2) An order under this...

I am grateful to those who have spoken to the amendment and I am grateful to the Minister. One thing that my research in the area of company law, which includes banks, has shown since I began it in 1958 is that the owners, as the Minister calls them, are...

I am grateful to those who have spoken to the amendment and I am grateful to the Minister. One thing that my research in the area of company law, which includes banks, has shown since I began it in 1958 is that the owners, as the Minister calls them, are...