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I beg to move,

That this House recognises Living Wage Week which began on 31 October; believes that the use of the introduction of the national living wage to drive down conditions and take-home pay is against the spirit of the law; calls on the Government to close down those loopholes...

Member
Siobhain McDonagh (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
3 November 2016
Reference
616 c1121
House
House of Commons

I beg to move,

That this House agrees with the Chancellor of the Exchequer that Britain deserves a pay rise and commends his introduction of the national living wage; notes, however, that some employers are cutting overall remuneration packages to offset the cost of its introduction, leaving thousands of low-paid employees...

Member
Joan Ryan (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
18 April 2016
Reference
608 cc674-5
House
House of Commons

I pass on my best wishes to my hon. Friend the Member for Mitcham and Morden (Siobhain McDonagh), who has done tireless work on this issue. Does my right hon. Friend share my concern about the fact that, as I have heard myself, because of the differential whereby under-25s are...

Member
Stephen Doughty (Labour; Co-operative Party)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
18 April 2016
Reference
608 c675
House
House of Commons

My hon. Friend makes a valid point. This is a double whammy for some workers; not only are they losing out because their employers are altering their terms and conditions, but they are losing these valuable other hours. Many of these workers absolutely depend on being able to work extra...

Member
Joan Ryan (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
18 April 2016
Reference
608 c675
House
House of Commons

Would my right hon. Friend think it a good idea for the UK Government to make a register of the companies that have undertaken such action, and bring them to a round-table meeting to explain that the purpose of the living wage was to improve, not reduce, people’s expenditure power?

Member
Lord Hanson of Flint (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
18 April 2016
Reference
608 c675
House
House of Commons

I would indeed. Part of what we are doing today is asking the Government and the Chancellor to address these issues. There are strengthened penalties for employers who do not pay the national living wage, but I suggest that alongside those should go penalties for employers who deliberately circumvent the...

Member
Joan Ryan (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
18 April 2016
Reference
608 cc675-6
House
House of Commons

I congratulate my right hon. Friend on this opening speech, and on the way in which she is making it. May I raise the issue of care providers? The care sector is faced with a bill of £330 million for implementing this legislation—this is money that the Government have not...

Member
Baroness Keeley (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
18 April 2016
Reference
608 c676
House
House of Commons

That is a crucial point, because the cost to business is offset by the reduction in corporation tax, and smaller businesses will also benefit from increased business rate relief and higher national insurance allowances. In terms of care homes, there is also a significant impact on local authorities, and that...

Member
Joan Ryan (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
18 April 2016
Reference
608 c676
House
House of Commons

I should declare an interest as a councillor in the London borough of Redbridge. The Local Government Association and others have estimated that the amount put aside through tax increases—through the new social care levy—will barely cover the cost to local authorities of providing the living wage, as they should....

Member
Wes Streeting (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
18 April 2016
Reference
608 c676
House
House of Commons

I could not in any way disagree with my hon. Friend, and as ever, it is the most vulnerable and the needy who suffer the most.

Companies such as B&Q use the introduction of the national living wage to “reform their pay and reward structures”, as they put it. That is...

Member
Joan Ryan (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
18 April 2016
Reference
608 c676
House
House of Commons

Does my right hon. Friend think that the Chancellor’s decision to conflate the national minimum wage with the reality of the living wage was the gimmick at the outset that allowed these employers to think that this

was not to be treated seriously, and that that is why we see...

Member
Lord McCabe (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
18 April 2016
Reference
608 c676
House
House of Commons

Undoubtedly that is the impression, especially as the real living wage recommended by the Living Wage Foundation is significantly higher than the one that the Chancellor proposed. We certainly could question it, as he could not have been unaware that what happened was always going to be possible.

Member
Joan Ryan (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
18 April 2016
Reference
608 c677
House
House of Commons

Does my right hon. Friend agree that, welcome though the living wage is, the tendency of many employers—some of them with internationally high reputations—to introduce the casualisation of labour through zero-hours contracts and rolling contracts is likely to be accelerated? Does she also not agree that, in exposing these companies,...

Member
George Howarth (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
18 April 2016
Reference
608 c677
House
House of Commons

Absolutely. There is no question but that low pay runs alongside job insecurity, and the situation is getting worse. What has happened absolutely demonstrates that terms and conditions and pay are inextricably linked. Again, as we have said with the care sector, people who are vulnerable and needy and who...

Member
Joan Ryan (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
18 April 2016
Reference
608 cc677-8
House
House of Commons

Does my hon. Friend agree that it is not just a matter of current income? People will also lose their deferred income and salary, which is their pension, so there will be a longer-term, knock-on effect when they retire.

Member
Baroness Anderson of Stoke-on-Trent (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
18 April 2016
Reference
608 c678
House
House of Commons

Indeed. Compare that double whammy—loss now and loss of deferred income, which is pension income—with what happens to the companies: they gain from cutting pay, and from the reduction in corporation tax, which should offset the pay increase, not allow them to cut pay. Although B&Q says that it has...

Member
Joan Ryan (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
18 April 2016
Reference
608 c678
House
House of Commons

Does my right hon. Friend agree that part of the problem is that employers see the national living wage or minimum wage as a ceiling for payments, rather than a floor, and will always try to pay the least that they can get away with?

Member
Jo Stevens (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
18 April 2016
Reference
608 c678
House
House of Commons

rose—

Member
Joan Ryan (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
18 April 2016
Reference
608 c678
House
House of Commons

Thank you, Mr Deputy Speaker. I take your point.

Certainly, the national living wage does not mean that that is all that employers can pay. Bradgate Bakery, like B&Q, found an opportunity to save money, so it has changed staff terms and conditions to phase out double pay for Sundays by...

Member
Joan Ryan (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
18 April 2016
Reference
608 cc678-680
House
House of Commons
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
18 April 2016
Reference
608 c680
House
House of Commons