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Lords motion to consider. Agreed to on question.

Lead member
Baroness Taylor of Stevenage
Answering member
Lord Jamieson
Department
Ministry of Housing, Communities and Local Government
Type
Debates on delegated legislation
Date
2 March 2026
Reference
853 cc419-430GC
House
House of Lords

My Lords, this order was laid before the House on 14 January 2026. If approved in the House and in the other place, it will implement a proposal submitted by Elmbridge Borough Council, Mole Valley District Council and Surrey County Council for two unitary councils, east Surrey council and west...

Member
Baroness Taylor of Stevenage (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
2 March 2026
Reference
853 cc419-420GC
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I thank the Minister for explaining the draft order for the reorganisation of the 11 districts and one county in Surrey into two unitaries. I do not totally agree with either her solution or the reasoning behind it. The Government are continuing to push through reorganisation that does...

Member
Baroness Pinnock (Liberal Democrat)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
2 March 2026
Reference
853 cc421-2GC
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I thank the Minister for her explanation of this statutory instrument. I wish to make noble Lords aware of my interest as a councillor in Central Bedfordshire Council. I do not think it is an interest, but I am an ex-chairman of the Local Government Association.

There are a...

Member
Lord Jamieson (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
2 March 2026
Reference
853 cc422-4GC
House
House of Lords

I thank the noble Baroness, Lady Pinnock, and the noble Lord, Lord Jamieson, for their considered contributions today. I recognise that they have a great deal of experience in this area, so they were very thoughtful contributions indeed. I will try to pick up all the points that have been...

Member
Baroness Taylor of Stevenage (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
2 March 2026
Reference
853 cc424-5GC
House
House of Lords

To continue from where we were before the vote, both noble Lords have understandably asked about the Surrey consultation outcome, and I understand why they would ask that question. As the noble Baroness mentioned, we received 5,617 responses: 26 from named consultees and the rest from residents and local organisations,...

Member
Baroness Taylor of Stevenage (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
2 March 2026
Reference
853 cc425-6GC
House
House of Lords

I am sorry to interrupt, but this is an important issue. I accept what the Minister is saying about the importance of councils being financially stable but, if I were a resident of Surrey, I would think that I was being punished by the fact that I was having to...

Member
Baroness Pinnock (Liberal Democrat)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
2 March 2026
Reference
853 c426GC
House
House of Lords

I certainly do not want to be seen to be condoning or commenting on that speculative debt, but we are where we find ourselves, and the important thing is that residents of Surrey must have sustainable councils going forward. It will not help them if the new structure that we...

Member
Baroness Taylor of Stevenage (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
2 March 2026
Reference
853 c426GC
House
House of Lords

I appreciate the Minister’s response. I have a question for clarity, as it potentially impacts some of the comments that she might make subsequently. If I heard her correctly, this whole reorganisation is being driven by the need to have sustainable councils to cover the debts of Woking and Spelthorne—

Member
Lord Jamieson (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
2 March 2026
Reference
853 c426GC
House
House of Lords

No, I did not say that.

Member
Baroness Taylor of Stevenage (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
2 March 2026
Reference
853 c426GC
House
House of Lords

That is fine—that is why I am seeking clarification. If we put that to one side, the Minister’s implication was that the Government might not have gone with this structure. I want to be clear that the residents of the other nine borough councils

are not being impacted or hamstrung...

Member
Lord Jamieson (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
2 March 2026
Reference
853 c426GC
House
House of Lords

I understand why the noble Lord asked that question. I apologise— I hope that I did not mislead in what I said. The criteria that we set out for this process are very clear. We looked at the criteria right across the board, and they are there to make sure...

Member
Baroness Taylor of Stevenage (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
2 March 2026
Reference
853 cc427-9GC
House
House of Lords

If the Minister has almost finished, I shall just intervene on a couple of points for clarity. On the unsupported debt that we have talked about, the Minister talked about a 7.5% increase in core funding over three years. I assume that that is based on 5% increases in council...

Member
Lord Jamieson (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
2 March 2026
Reference
853 c1122GC
House
House of Lords

I will take the last point first. My understanding is that the usual practice is for legal advice to be reviewed over the course of a legal case going on. That is standard practice and is what happened in this case. I cannot add anything further to that at the...

Member
Baroness Taylor of Stevenage (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
2 March 2026
Reference
853 cc1122-430GC
House
House of Lords

I apologise: I should have asked this earlier. It is just a point of clarity; I am not making a political barb here. We asked about the role of the commissioners. I appreciate that the Minister may not be able to give us an answer now, but it would be...

Member
Lord Jamieson (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
2 March 2026
Reference
853 c430GC
House
House of Lords

I am sorry, I thought I had covered that when I spoke about the detail of the support being provided to Woking. The commissioners are still working there, and we will continue to work with Woking and the other authorities involved in west Surrey, as is necessary.

Member
Baroness Taylor of Stevenage (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
2 March 2026
Reference
853 c430GC
House
House of Lords

My Honourable Friend the Minister of State for Local Government and Homelessness (Alison McGovern MP) has today made the following statement:

This Government’s ambition is to simplify local government, by ending the two-tier system and establishing new single-tier unitary councils. This is a once-in-a-generation reform and our vision is clear: stronger...

Member
Baroness Taylor of Stevenage (Labour)
Department
Ministry of Housing, Communities and Local Government
Type
Written statements
Date
28 October 2025
Reference
HLWS997
House
House of Lords

I. Letter dated 28/10/2025 from Steve Reed MP to Leaders of Surrey Councils regarding proposal for unitary councils. 3p. II. Proposals for local government reorganisation in Surrey: government response. 54p.

Deposited by
Ministry of Housing, Communities and Local Government
Type
Consultation papers (Government responses); Deposited papers
Date
28 October 2025
Reference
DEP2025-0715
House
House of Commons; House of Lords

This Government’s ambition is to simplify local government, by ending the two-tier system and establishing new single-tier unitary councils. This is a once-in-a-generation reform and our vision is clear: stronger local councils empowered across local services, equipped to drive economic growth, improve local public services, and empower their communities.

Strong local...

Member
Alison McGovern (Labour)
Department
Ministry of Housing, Communities and Local Government
Type
Written statements
Date
28 October 2025
Reference
HCWS998
House
House of Commons

My hon. Friend may be aware that Guildford has run into difficulties with many villages over the production of neighbourhood plans. My intervention is just to tell him that I too am aware of that, in my role as Government champion for neighbourhood planning, and I am dealing with the...

Member
John Howell (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
16 January 2019
Reference
652 c434WH
House
House of Commons