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Lords second reading. Agreed to on question. Committed to a Grand Committee.

Lead member
Lord Greenhalgh
Answering member
Lord Kennedy of Southwark
Department
Ministry of Housing, Communities and Local Government
Type
Debates on bills
Date
24 May 2021
Reference
812 cc826-867
House
House of Lords

My Lords, first, I declare my residential and commercial property interests as set out in the register.

This Bill will lead to fairer, more transparent home ownership for thousands of future leaseholders. It represents part of the most significant changes to property law in a generation and should be welcomed by...

Member
Lord Greenhalgh (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
24 May 2021
Reference
812 cc826-831
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I welcome the Bill although, as the Minister might expect, with some caveats. But I welcome the way in which he introduced it and the context in which he placed it. Four years after it was promised in 2017, a leasehold reform Bill has reached this House—and it...

Member
Baroness Andrews (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
24 May 2021
Reference
812 cc831-3
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I draw the House’s attention to my relevant interest as a vice-president of the Local Government Association and a member of Kirklees Council.

The basic tenet of the Bill is to be welcomed. The excellent briefing by the House of Lords Library states very clearly the intention that

“freeholders or...

Member
Baroness Pinnock (Liberal Democrat)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
24 May 2021
Reference
812 cc833-5
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I draw attention to my interests, as set out in the register, in various businesses associated with property, including long leasehold property, though, I hasten to add, not including residential ground rents. As the Minister has already made clear, this is the first part of a two-stage reform...

Member
Lord Hammond of Runnymede (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
24 May 2021
Reference
812 cc835-6
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I welcome the opportunity to debate this Bill and in doing so refer to 45 years of professional interest in the matter

and my interest as the first chairman of the Leasehold Advisory Service. Although I have personal interests in residential and commercial lettings, they do not include...

Member
Earl of Lytton (Crossbench)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
24 May 2021
Reference
812 cc836-9
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I very much welcome this Bill. I am no property expert but I have explained my interest in the Bill—I hope, as other noble Lords have said, that there will be at least one more. I welcome the Government’s statement, I think from 11 January this year, accepting...

Member
Lord Berkeley (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
24 May 2021
Reference
812 cc839-841
House
House of Lords

My Lords, like other noble Lords, I welcome the Bill before us today. Although the scandalous problems currently facing leaseholders in homes covered in dangerous cladding materials will not be alleviated by it, as my noble friend Lady Pinnock so eloquently spelled out, and it will not in any way...

Member
Lord Stunell (Liberal Democrat)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
24 May 2021
Reference
812 cc841-3
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I declare a personal interest as someone who pays ground rent on my flat in London.

I congratulate my noble friend the Minister on his usual courteous and full explanation of the Bill. I just do not know what he has done to draw the short straw again, but...

Member
Lord Blencathra (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
24 May 2021
Reference
812 cc843-5
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I declare an interest as a vice-president of the Local Government Association. It is of course a pleasure to follow the noble Lord, Lord Blencathra. I will sign his amendment to make all ground rents peppercorns, so I ask him to get it tabled as soon as possible.

Many...

Member
Baroness Jones of Moulsecoomb (Green Party)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
24 May 2021
Reference
812 cc845-6
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I must start by declaring an interest as somebody who pays a ground rent. It is not a peppercorn—it would probably buy a few kilos of peppercorns—but I cannot claim to find it too onerous.

The Minister began his remarks by saying that the Bill is intentionally limited in...

Member
Baroness Wheatcroft (Crossbench)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
24 May 2021
Reference
812 cc846-7
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I declare my interests as set out in the register. It is a great pleasure to follow the noble Baroness, Lady Wheatcroft, and I agree with many of the points she made, not least on the antiquated, archaic references

to “peppercorn rents”. The Minister referenced how it was...

Member
Lord Bourne of Aberystwyth (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
24 May 2021
Reference
812 cc847-9
House
House of Lords

My Lords, it is impossible to speak on leasehold matters without acknowledging the dire situation of tenants in properties with defective fire cladding, as has been ably explained by my noble friend Lady Pinnock. It is an extreme example of how leaseholders have been exploited, wronged and left to carry...

Member
Baroness Bowles of Berkhamsted (Liberal Democrat)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
24 May 2021
Reference
812 cc849-851
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I congratulate the Government on bringing forward this Bill, with its central proposition to get rid of ground rents for leaseholders. These charges represent payment of “something for nothing” and, when capitalised and sold on, have netted an undeserved windfall bonus for the housebuilders. As the Minister noted,...

Member
Lord Best (Crossbench)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
24 May 2021
Reference
812 cc851-3
House
House of Lords

My Lords, it is a pleasure to follow the noble Lord, Lord Best, who has a wide knowledge of housing—especially housing policy matters. I remember meeting him some years ago when I was the then Minister for housing in Northern Ireland.

This Second Reading of this small piece of housing finance...

Member
Baroness Ritchie of Downpatrick (Non-affiliated)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
24 May 2021
Reference
812 cc853-5
House
House of Lords

My Lords, like others who have spoken, I very much welcome this Bill. It is another step along the road of reform that, as my noble friend Lord Blencathra said, began in 1967 with the Leasehold Reform Act, which gave tenants of houses the right to buy the freehold. That...

Member
Lord Young of Cookham (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
24 May 2021
Reference
812 cc855-7
House
House of Lords

My Lords, as almost the last Peer to speak, I have decided not to speak from the notes that I had prepared for this event. There have been some excellent speeches on the Bill. I mention that of the noble Lord, Lord Best, in which he shared his excellent experience...

Member
Lord Bhatia (Non-affiliated)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
24 May 2021
Reference
812 c857
House
House of Lords

My Lords, as many noble Lords have said, this Bill is most welcome. I thank the Minister for the meeting that he held with me last week, but I think all of us would recognise that this is a first tentative dip of the toe into the vast lake that...

Member
Baroness Grender (Liberal Democrat)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
24 May 2021
Reference
812 cc857-860
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I refer the House to my relevant interests as set out in the register, namely as a vice-president of the Local Government Association, a non-executive director of MHS Homes Ltd and chair of the Heart of Medway Housing Association.

The Minister will have heard the speeches of all noble...

Member
Lord Kennedy of Southwark (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
24 May 2021
Reference
812 cc860-3
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I am grateful to all noble Lords for their very valuable contributions and for setting my expectations for the depth of scrutiny in Committee. It has been extremely helpful to hear all noble Lords’ views.

I pay tribute to my noble friends Lord Blencathra and Lord Young, who in...

Member
Lord Greenhalgh (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
24 May 2021
Reference
812 cc862-7
House
House of Lords