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In response to an intervention by Baroness McIntosh of Hudnall during proceedings on the draft House of Lords Reform Bill Motion on 7 June (Official Report, col. 146), I mistakenly stated that the committee led by the Deputy Prime Minister met nine times prior to the publication of the House...
In response to an intervention by Baroness McIntosh of Hudnall during proceedings on the draft House of Lords Reform Bill Motion on 7 June (Official Report, col. 146), I mistakenly stated that the committee led by the Deputy Prime Minister met nine times prior to the publication of the House...
Member
Lord Strathclyde
(Conservative)
Department
Chancellor of the Duchy of Lancaster
Type
Written statements
Legislation
Draft House of Lords Reform Bill
Subjects
House of Lords; House of Lords Reform Cross-Party Committee; Reform
Date
9 June 2011
Reference
728 c37WS
House
House of Lords
To ask Her Majesty’s Government (a) on how many occasions, and (b) on what dates, the Committee on Lords Reform chaired by the Deputy Prime Minster has met.
To ask Her Majesty’s Government (a) on how many occasions, and (b) on what dates, the Committee on Lords Reform chaired by the Deputy Prime Minster has met.
Asked by
Lord Tomlinson
(Labour)
Answered by
Lord Strathclyde
(Conservative)
Type
Written questions
Status
Answered
Answered on
23 May 2011
The cross-party Committee on House of Lords reform met seven times between June and December 2010.
The discussions proceeded on the basis that the deliberations would not be made known as this might compromise the candid nature of the talks. In line with that decision, it is also inappropriate to make public meeting dates.
The Government published a White Paper and draft Bill for a wholly or mainly elected reformed second chamber on 17 May.
Subjects
House of Lords Reform Cross-Party Committee
Date
23 May 2011
Reference
9174; 727 c383-4WA
House
House of Lords
To ask Her Majesty’s Government whether there have been any changes to the composition of the Committee on Lords Reform; and, if so, what is the present composition of the committee.
To ask Her Majesty’s Government whether there have been any changes to the composition of the Committee on Lords Reform; and, if so, what is the present composition of the committee.
Asked by
Lord Norton of Louth
(Conservative)
Answered by
Lord McNally
(Liberal Democrat)
Type
Written questions
Status
Answered
Answered on
9 November 2010
The original composition of the cross-party committee was announced on 7 June by the Deputy Prime Minister and reported to this House by the Leader of the House in a Written Ministerial Statement (Official Report, col. WS 35). Following the announcement of the new shadow Cabinet, the right honourable Sadiq Khan MP, shadow Lord Chancellor and Secretary of State for Justice, replaced the right honourable Jack Straw MP, and the right honourable Hilary Benn MP, shadow Leader of the House of Commons, replaced the right honourable Rosie Winterton MP.
Subjects
Membership; House of Lords Reform Cross-Party Committee
Date
9 November 2010
Reference
3357; 722 c62WA
House
House of Lords
On Tuesday 29 June, Lord Steel of Aikwood moved a Motion ""That this House calls on Her Majesty's Government, notwithstanding their proposals for Lords reform whose legislative timetable is unclear, to table Motions before the Summer Recess enabling the House to approve or disapprove:""(a) a scheme to enable Members of...
On Tuesday 29 June, Lord Steel of Aikwood moved a Motion ""That this House calls on Her Majesty's Government, notwithstanding their proposals for Lords reform whose legislative timetable is unclear, to table Motions before the Summer Recess enabling the House to approve or disapprove:""(a) a scheme to enable Members of...
Member
Lord Strathclyde
(Conservative)
Department
Chancellor of the Duchy of Lancaster
Type
Written statements
Subjects
Crime; Committees; By-elections; House of Lords; Disqualification; Hereditary peers; House of Lords composition; Legislation; Public appointments; Peers; Reform; Retirement; House of Lords Leader's Group on Members Leaving the House; House of Lords Reform Cross-Party Committee
Date
7 July 2010
Reference
720 c13WS
House
House of Lords
My Lords, I thank my noble friend for that response. The take note debate raised two questions of due process relating to this Question, which, in effect, has not been answered. I am afraid that I cannot answer it; I did not set up the committee. I suspect that the only person in your Lordships’ House who can really answer it is my noble friend the Justice Minister. In the mean time, though, there is a problem about this process. There are two aspects...
I am sorry. I will sit down.
My Lords, I thank my noble friend for that response. The take note debate raised two questions of due process relating to this Question, which, in effect, has not been answered. I am afraid that I cannot answer it; I did not set up the committee. I suspect that the only person in your Lordships’ House who can really answer it is my noble friend the Justice Minister. In the mean time, though, there is a problem about this process. There are two aspects...
I am sorry. I will sit down.
Asked by
Lord Campbell of Alloway
(Conservative)
Oral questions - 1st Supplementary
Status
Answered
Answered on
5 July 2010
My Lords, because, as the noble Lord said, the debate raised the issue of due process, I was very careful to make inquiries about whether it could be suggested that anything that was taking place was not being done with due process. I am advised that parliamentary counsel will draft the Bill, which the Government plan to publish before the end of the year, based on clear instructions provided by the departmental lawyers, and that this is normal practice.
Subjects
House of Lords; Legislation; Legislative drafting; Reform; House of Lords Reform Cross-Party Committee
Date
5 July 2010
Reference
720 c10
Chamber / Committee
House of Lords chamber
House
House of Lords
I cannot believe that that is not the case. Perhaps the noble Lord will write to me on it; otherwise, I will report what he suggests to the Cabinet Office. I think that I have seen most Ministers up for Questions. If the Minister is in another place, it is open to Members of another place...
Ah. I know where we are now. Why does the noble Lord not try putting down a Question to her?
I cannot believe that that is not the case. Perhaps the noble Lord will write to me on it; otherwise, I will report what he suggests to the Cabinet Office. I think that I have seen most Ministers up for Questions. If the Minister is in another place, it is open to Members of another place...
Ah. I know where we are now. Why does the noble Lord not try putting down a Question to her?
Answered by
Lord McNally
(Liberal Democrat)
Asked by
Lord Dubs
(Labour)
Type
Oral answers to questions
Does the Minister agree that every Minister should be accountable to one House or the other in Parliament and that it is therefore an anomaly that the Minister without Portfolio in the Cabinet Office is apparently not answerable to anybody in either House? Will the Minister ensure, in feeding in to this process, that all Ministers are accountable?...
It is this House.
Subjects
House of Lords; Legislation; Legislative drafting; Reform; House of Lords Reform Cross-Party Committee
Date
5 July 2010
Reference
720 c10
Chamber / Committee
House of Lords chamber
House
House of Lords
I am very much aware of just how constructive most of this House wants to be to the committee and I am grateful for that. It is not a Cabinet committee; it is a working group that is drawing up a draft Bill. The reason why the Opposition accepted the invitation to join the group is that, prior to the election, a great deal of the work had been done by a similar committee under the chairmanship of Mr Jack Straw. That committee left a good body of work for this group to get ahead in its work in drawing up a draft Bill.
I am very much aware of just how constructive most of this House wants to be to the committee and I am grateful for that. It is not a Cabinet committee; it is a working group that is drawing up a draft Bill. The reason why the Opposition accepted the invitation to join the group is that, prior to the election, a great deal of the work had been done by a similar committee under the chairmanship of Mr Jack Straw. That committee left a good body of work for this group to get ahead in its work in drawing up a draft Bill.
Answered by
Lord McNally
(Liberal Democrat)
Asked by
Lord Maclennan of Rogart
(Liberal Democrat)
Type
Oral answers to questions
Can my noble friend give a little further advice on the status of the committee, which, although appointed by the Government, includes a representative of the Opposition? None the less, the Leader of the Opposition in this House, the noble Baroness, Lady Royall, described it as a Cabinet committee. Does it have that authority and collective responsibility? Secondly, what steps will be taken to enable representations to be made to the committee that are germane to the work of the committee in the form of advice, given that the noble Baroness said to the House that the committee’s proceedings could not be made clear or transparent? Are we not all interested in helping constructively? If we are to help constructively, can we be given some greater indication of how we can do so?
Subjects
House of Lords; Legislation; Legislative drafting; Reform; House of Lords Reform Cross-Party Committee
Date
5 July 2010
Reference
720 c10-1
Chamber / Committee
House of Lords chamber
House
House of Lords
I am sure that the Leader of the Opposition would honour what has been set out by the committee. This is a drafting committee and we are working with due speed to produce a draft, which will then give the opportunity for the real work that Lords reform requires. I think that the House is getting overexcited about this. We are receiving advice and written submissions and we are working hard to be able to give the House what I have described before as a bone for it to chew on. I think that that is the best way forward for Lords reform.
I am sure that the Leader of the Opposition would honour what has been set out by the committee. This is a drafting committee and we are working with due speed to produce a draft, which will then give the opportunity for the real work that Lords reform requires. I think that the House is getting overexcited about this. We are receiving advice and written submissions and we are working hard to be able to give the House what I have described before as a bone for it to chew on. I think that that is the best way forward for Lords reform.
Answered by
Lord McNally
(Liberal Democrat)
Asked by
Lord Grocott
(Labour)
Type
Oral answers to questions
My Lords, as I previously understood it—the Minister has made it much clearer to me now—the agenda and the minutes of the committee could not be made public because the committee was a Cabinet committee. The noble Lord has now told us that it is definitely not a Cabinet committee. Given that this Government have trumpeted their commitment to transparency and openness, on which the Deputy Prime Minister has been in the lead, why on earth cannot the agenda and the minutes be published? If the noble Lord tells me that they cannot be, what offence would be committed if, for example, I were to ask my noble friend the shadow Leader of the House to let me have a copy of them?
Subjects
House of Lords; Legislation; Legislative drafting; Reform; House of Lords Reform Cross-Party Committee
Date
5 July 2010
Reference
720 c11
Chamber / Committee
House of Lords chamber
House
House of Lords
My Lords, because, as the noble Lord said, the debate raised the issue of due process, I was very careful to make inquiries about whether it could be suggested that anything that was taking place was not being done with due process. I am advised that parliamentary counsel will draft the Bill, which the Government plan to publish before the end of the year, based on clear instructions provided by the departmental lawyers, and that this is normal practice.
My Lords, because, as the noble Lord said, the debate raised the issue of due process, I was very careful to make inquiries about whether it could be suggested that anything that was taking place was not being done with due process. I am advised that parliamentary counsel will draft the Bill, which the Government plan to publish before the end of the year, based on clear instructions provided by the departmental lawyers, and that this is normal practice.
Answered by
Lord McNally
(Liberal Democrat)
Asked by
Lord Campbell of Alloway
(Conservative)
Type
Oral answers to questions
My Lords, I thank my noble friend for that response. The take note debate raised two questions of due process relating to this Question, which, in effect, has not been answered. I am afraid that I cannot answer it; I did not set up the committee. I suspect that the only person in your Lordships’ House who can really answer it is my noble friend the Justice Minister. In the mean time, though, there is a problem about this process. There are two aspects...
I am sorry. I will sit down.
Subjects
House of Lords; Legislation; Legislative drafting; Reform; House of Lords Reform Cross-Party Committee
Date
5 July 2010
Reference
720 c10
Chamber / Committee
House of Lords chamber
House
House of Lords
My Lords, as I previously understood it—the Minister has made it much clearer to me now—the agenda and the minutes of the committee could not be made public because the committee was a Cabinet committee. The noble Lord has now told us that it is definitely not a Cabinet committee. Given that this Government have trumpeted their commitment to transparency and openness, on which the Deputy Prime Minister has been in the lead, why on earth cannot the agenda and the minutes be published? If the noble Lord tells me that they cannot be, what offence would be committed if, for example, I were to ask my noble friend the shadow Leader of the House to let me have a copy of them?
My Lords, as I previously understood it—the Minister has made it much clearer to me now—the agenda and the minutes of the committee could not be made public because the committee was a Cabinet committee. The noble Lord has now told us that it is definitely not a Cabinet committee. Given that this Government have trumpeted their commitment to transparency and openness, on which the Deputy Prime Minister has been in the lead, why on earth cannot the agenda and the minutes be published? If the noble Lord tells me that they cannot be, what offence would be committed if, for example, I were to ask my noble friend the shadow Leader of the House to let me have a copy of them?
Asked by
Lord Grocott
(Labour)
Oral questions - Supplementary
Status
Answered
Answered on
5 July 2010
I am sure that the Leader of the Opposition would honour what has been set out by the committee. This is a drafting committee and we are working with due speed to produce a draft, which will then give the opportunity for the real work that Lords reform requires. I think that the House is getting overexcited about this. We are receiving advice and written submissions and we are working hard to be able to give the House what I have described before as a bone for it to chew on. I think that that is the best way forward for Lords reform.
Subjects
House of Lords; Legislation; Legislative drafting; Reform; House of Lords Reform Cross-Party Committee
Date
5 July 2010
Reference
720 c11
Chamber / Committee
House of Lords chamber
House
House of Lords
My Lords, I understand that the Cabinet rules on legislation require an impact assessment and a cost-benefit analysis. Indeed, the Government were criticised only recently for not producing them. In the case of this government draft legislation, it seems ludicrous that the House should discuss something without knowing what the consequences will be.
My Lords, I understand that the Cabinet rules on legislation require an impact assessment and a cost-benefit analysis. Indeed, the Government were criticised only recently for not producing them. In the case of this government draft legislation, it seems ludicrous that the House should discuss something without knowing what the consequences will be.
Asked by
Lord Christopher
(Labour)
Oral questions - Supplementary
Status
Answered
Answered on
5 July 2010
Those matters can be fully scrutinised by the pre-legislative scrutiny committee when it sees the draft Bill. I emphasise that this committee is working on a draft Bill, which will be subject to pre-legislative scrutiny, when there will be a lot of opportunities to look at both the impact and the cost.
Subjects
House of Lords; Legislation; Legislative drafting; Reform; House of Lords Reform Cross-Party Committee
Date
5 July 2010
Reference
720 c11
Chamber / Committee
House of Lords chamber
House
House of Lords
Does the Minister agree that every Minister should be accountable to one House or the other in Parliament and that it is therefore an anomaly that the Minister without Portfolio in the Cabinet Office is apparently not answerable to anybody in either House? Will the Minister ensure, in feeding in to this process, that all Ministers are accountable?...
It is this House.
Does the Minister agree that every Minister should be accountable to one House or the other in Parliament and that it is therefore an anomaly that the Minister without Portfolio in the Cabinet Office is apparently not answerable to anybody in either House? Will the Minister ensure, in feeding in to this process, that all Ministers are accountable?...
It is this House.
Asked by
Lord Dubs
(Labour)
Oral questions - Supplementary
Status
Answered
Answered on
5 July 2010
I cannot believe that that is not the case. Perhaps the noble Lord will write to me on it; otherwise, I will report what he suggests to the Cabinet Office. I think that I have seen most Ministers up for Questions. If the Minister is in another place, it is open to Members of another place...
Ah. I know where we are now. Why does the noble Lord not try putting down a Question to her?
Subjects
House of Lords; Legislation; Legislative drafting; Reform; House of Lords Reform Cross-Party Committee
Date
5 July 2010
Reference
720 c10
Chamber / Committee
House of Lords chamber
House
House of Lords
Those matters can be fully scrutinised by the pre-legislative scrutiny committee when it sees the draft Bill. I emphasise that this committee is working on a draft Bill, which will be subject to pre-legislative scrutiny, when there will be a lot of opportunities to look at both the impact and the cost.
Those matters can be fully scrutinised by the pre-legislative scrutiny committee when it sees the draft Bill. I emphasise that this committee is working on a draft Bill, which will be subject to pre-legislative scrutiny, when there will be a lot of opportunities to look at both the impact and the cost.
Answered by
Lord McNally
(Liberal Democrat)
Asked by
Lord Christopher
(Labour)
Type
Oral answers to questions
My Lords, I understand that the Cabinet rules on legislation require an impact assessment and a cost-benefit analysis. Indeed, the Government were criticised only recently for not producing them. In the case of this government draft legislation, it seems ludicrous that the House should discuss something without knowing what the consequences will be.
Subjects
House of Lords; Legislation; Legislative drafting; Reform; House of Lords Reform Cross-Party Committee
Date
5 July 2010
Reference
720 c11
Chamber / Committee
House of Lords chamber
House
House of Lords
My Lords, instructions to parliamentary counsel will be drafted by officials in the usual manner, based on decisions made by the committee.
My Lords, instructions to parliamentary counsel will be drafted by officials in the usual manner, based on decisions made by the committee.
Answered by
Lord McNally
(Liberal Democrat)
Asked by
Lord Campbell of Alloway
(Conservative)
Type
Oral answers to questions
To ask Her Majesty’s Government what process will be used by the House of Lords reform committee to give instructions to Parliamentary Counsel for a draft bill.
Subjects
House of Lords; Legislation; Legislative drafting; Reform; House of Lords Reform Cross-Party Committee
Date
5 July 2010
Reference
720 c9-10
Chamber / Committee
House of Lords chamber
House
House of Lords
Can my noble friend give a little further advice on the status of the committee, which, although appointed by the Government, includes a representative of the Opposition? None the less, the Leader of the Opposition in this House, the noble Baroness, Lady Royall, described it as a Cabinet committee. Does it have that authority and collective responsibility? Secondly, what steps will be taken to enable representations to be made to the committee that are germane to the work of the committee in the form of advice, given that the noble Baroness said to the House that the committee’s proceedings could not be made clear or transparent? Are we not all interested in helping constructively? If we are to help constructively, can we be given some greater indication of how we can do so?
Can my noble friend give a little further advice on the status of the committee, which, although appointed by the Government, includes a representative of the Opposition? None the less, the Leader of the Opposition in this House, the noble Baroness, Lady Royall, described it as a Cabinet committee. Does it have that authority and collective responsibility? Secondly, what steps will be taken to enable representations to be made to the committee that are germane to the work of the committee in the form of advice, given that the noble Baroness said to the House that the committee’s proceedings could not be made clear or transparent? Are we not all interested in helping constructively? If we are to help constructively, can we be given some greater indication of how we can do so?
Asked by
Lord Maclennan of Rogart
(Liberal Democrat)
Oral questions - Supplementary
Status
Answered
Answered on
5 July 2010
I am very much aware of just how constructive most of this House wants to be to the committee and I am grateful for that. It is not a Cabinet committee; it is a working group that is drawing up a draft Bill. The reason why the Opposition accepted the invitation to join the group is that, prior to the election, a great deal of the work had been done by a similar committee under the chairmanship of Mr Jack Straw. That committee left a good body of work for this group to get ahead in its work in drawing up a draft Bill.
Subjects
House of Lords; Legislation; Legislative drafting; Reform; House of Lords Reform Cross-Party Committee
Date
5 July 2010
Reference
720 c10-1
Chamber / Committee
House of Lords chamber
House
House of Lords
To ask Her Majesty’s Government what process will be used by the House of Lords reform committee to give instructions to Parliamentary Counsel for a draft bill.
To ask Her Majesty’s Government what process will be used by the House of Lords reform committee to give instructions to Parliamentary Counsel for a draft bill.
Asked by
Lord Campbell of Alloway
(Conservative)
Answered by
Lord McNally
(Liberal Democrat)
Oral questions - Lead
Status
Answered
For answer on
5 July 2010
Answered on
5 July 2010
My Lords, instructions to parliamentary counsel will be drafted by officials in the usual manner, based on decisions made by the committee.
Subjects
House of Lords; Legislation; Legislative drafting; Reform; House of Lords Reform Cross-Party Committee
Date
5 July 2010
Reference
720 c9-10
Chamber / Committee
House of Lords chamber
House
House of Lords
Lords debate on motion to take note of the case for reform of the House of Lords. Agreed to on question.
Lords debate on motion to take note of the case for reform of the House of Lords. Agreed to on question.
Lead member
Lord Strathclyde
Answering member
Baroness Royall of Blaisdon
Department
Chancellor of the Duchy of Lancaster
Type
Debates
Subjects
Elections; House of Lords; House of Commons; House of Lords composition; Legislation; Powers; Peers; Proportional representation; Reform; Retirement; Resignations; House of Lords Reform Cross-Party Committee
Date
29 June 2010
Reference
719 c1661-785
Chamber / Committee
House of Lords chamber
House
House of Lords
My Lords, I confess it is something of a shock to learn that there is a Back Bencher in favour of an elected House. With the new stricter regulatory regime, I feel I ought to declare a family interest in these matters. I can assure noble Lords that my contribution...
My Lords, I confess it is something of a shock to learn that there is a Back Bencher in favour of an elected House. With the new stricter regulatory regime, I feel I ought to declare a family interest in these matters. I can assure noble Lords that my contribution...
Member
Viscount Tenby
(Crossbench)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Subjects
Elections; House of Lords; House of Commons; House of Lords composition; Legislation; Powers; Peers; Proportional representation; Reform; Retirement; Resignations; House of Lords Reform Cross-Party Committee
Date
29 June 2010
Reference
719 c1728-9
Chamber / Committee
House of Lords chamber
House
House of Lords
Can I correct the noble Lord? What about Canada?
Can I correct the noble Lord? What about Canada?
Member
Lord Pilkington of Oxenford
(Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Subjects
Elections; House of Lords; House of Commons; House of Lords composition; Legislation; Powers; Peers; Proportional representation; Reform; Retirement; Resignations; House of Lords Reform Cross-Party Committee
Date
29 June 2010
Reference
719 c1727
Chamber / Committee
House of Lords chamber
House
House of Lords
My Lords, I could not at this juncture speak for my party on that issue, but personally I am a firm supporter of compulsory voting. However, that is my personal view. On other occasions, my noble friend Lady Jay of Paddington, a distinguished former Leader of the House, has asked...
My Lords, I could not at this juncture speak for my party on that issue, but personally I am a firm supporter of compulsory voting. However, that is my personal view. On other occasions, my noble friend Lady Jay of Paddington, a distinguished former Leader of the House, has asked...
Member
Baroness Royall of Blaisdon
(Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Subjects
Elections; House of Lords; House of Commons; House of Lords composition; Legislation; Powers; Peers; Proportional representation; Reform; Retirement; Resignations; House of Lords Reform Cross-Party Committee
Date
29 June 2010
Reference
719 c1670
Chamber / Committee
House of Lords chamber
House
House of Lords