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My Lords, I have nothing to add on the case of the two individuals. The Minister of Defence accepted his responsibility. He also acceptedthe direct recommendations of the report and the wider criticism, and we are acting to implement that report. As I said, we have nothing to add on the case of the individuals.
My Lords, I have nothing to add on the case of the two individuals. The Minister of Defence accepted his responsibility. He also acceptedthe direct recommendations of the report and the wider criticism, and we are acting to implement that report. As I said, we have nothing to add on the case of the individuals.
Answered by
Lord Tunnicliffe
(Labour)
Asked by
Lord Ramsbotham
(Crossbench)
Type
Oral answers to questions
My Lords, I thank the Minister for that extremely disappointing reply and of course add my condolences in relation to the three people killed in Afghanistan whom he mentioned. The military covenant is the tangible expression of the nation’s loyalty to its Armed Forces in return for their loyalty to the nation. In his report on the tragic loss of Nimrod XV230, Mr Haddon-Cave QC publicly condemned two distinguished senior officers, General Sir Sam Cowan and Air Chief Marshal Sir Malcolm Pledger, for imposing the defence cuts that were held partly to blame. Ministers, not senior officers, impose defence cuts, so can the Minister tell the House when the Government will heal this clear breach of the military covenant and demonstrate their loyalty to these now-retired officers by publicly refuting their unwarranted traduction for implementing ministerial direction?
Subjects
Defence; Accidents; Expenditure; Peacekeeping operations; Afghanistan; Defence Logistics Organisation; Nimrod aircraft; Nimrod Review; Pledger, Malcolm; Cowan, Sam
Date
22 March 2010
Reference
718 c750-1
Chamber / Committee
House of Lords chamber
House
House of Lords
My Lords, the Government accept the position that my noble friend Lord Robertson set out about responsibility for the cuts. He was clear that it was the intention of the Government of the day that efficiencies should be achieved. However, we will not comment on what my noble friend said about the individuals concerned. He offers a view from the evidence, and that is the only evidence that we have. We do not believe that it makes sense to second-guess the inquiry and we will not do so.
My Lords, the Government accept the position that my noble friend Lord Robertson set out about responsibility for the cuts. He was clear that it was the intention of the Government of the day that efficiencies should be achieved. However, we will not comment on what my noble friend said about the individuals concerned. He offers a view from the evidence, and that is the only evidence that we have. We do not believe that it makes sense to second-guess the inquiry and we will not do so.
Answered by
Lord Tunnicliffe
(Labour)
Asked by
Lord Craig of Radley
(Crossbench)
Type
Oral answers to questions
My Lords, the noble Lord, Lord Robertson of Port Ellen, who was Defence Secretary at the time, says that he accepts full responsibility for the efficiency targets that he set for the Defence Logistics Organisation. He went on to say that Haddon-Cave made no attempt to interview Ministers, so, ""it was particularly unfair and unjust to name General Cowan … the first ever Chief of Defence Logistics, and his successor, Air Chief Marshal Pledger".—[Official Report, 16/12/09; col. 1607.]"
Do Her Majesty’s Government agree with the noble Lord, Lord Robertson, and, if not, why not?
Subjects
Defence; Accidents; Expenditure; Peacekeeping operations; Afghanistan; Defence Logistics Organisation; Nimrod aircraft; Nimrod Review; Pledger, Malcolm; Cowan, Sam
Date
22 March 2010
Reference
718 c751-2
Chamber / Committee
House of Lords chamber
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House of Lords
My Lords, I did indeed say that I could not comment for that reason. It is perfectly true that there is a general connection and that that could become a problem. However, on reflection, I think we have to say that quite honestly it is not appropriate to elaborate on the Haddon-Cave report, and we do not think it useful to second-guess that inquiry. I cannot comment on what will happen with these cases. They are in the hands of the Royal Air Force Police, to which they were directed following consultation with the Director of Service Prosecutions. I can say no more until the cases come to court or are dropped.
My Lords, I did indeed say that I could not comment for that reason. It is perfectly true that there is a general connection and that that could become a problem. However, on reflection, I think we have to say that quite honestly it is not appropriate to elaborate on the Haddon-Cave report, and we do not think it useful to second-guess that inquiry. I cannot comment on what will happen with these cases. They are in the hands of the Royal Air Force Police, to which they were directed following consultation with the Director of Service Prosecutions. I can say no more until the cases come to court or are dropped.
Answered by
Lord Tunnicliffe
(Labour)
Asked by
Lord Astor of Hever
(Conservative)
Type
Oral answers to questions
My Lords, we on these Benches send our condolences to the families and friends of Captain Driver, Corporal Hardy and Private Grigg of the 1st Battalion The Royal Anglian Regiment. During the Nimrod Statement, the noble Lord said that he could not comment on these two officers because of a separate police investigation into two senior serving Royal Air Force officers. What is happening to this police investigation and what is the connection with the officers mentioned by the noble Lord, Lord Ramsbotham?
Subjects
Defence; Accidents; Expenditure; Peacekeeping operations; Afghanistan; Defence Logistics Organisation; Nimrod aircraft; Nimrod Review; Pledger, Malcolm; Cowan, Sam
Date
22 March 2010
Reference
718 c751
Chamber / Committee
House of Lords chamber
House
House of Lords
My Lords, we on these Benches send our condolences to the families and friends of Captain Driver, Corporal Hardy and Private Grigg of the 1st Battalion The Royal Anglian Regiment. During the Nimrod Statement, the noble Lord said that he could not comment on these two officers because of a separate police investigation into two senior serving Royal Air Force officers. What is happening to this police investigation and what is the connection with the officers mentioned by the noble Lord, Lord Ramsbotham?
My Lords, we on these Benches send our condolences to the families and friends of Captain Driver, Corporal Hardy and Private Grigg of the 1st Battalion The Royal Anglian Regiment. During the Nimrod Statement, the noble Lord said that he could not comment on these two officers because of a separate police investigation into two senior serving Royal Air Force officers. What is happening to this police investigation and what is the connection with the officers mentioned by the noble Lord, Lord Ramsbotham?
Asked by
Lord Astor of Hever
(Conservative)
Oral questions - Supplementary
Status
Answered
Answered on
22 March 2010
My Lords, I did indeed say that I could not comment for that reason. It is perfectly true that there is a general connection and that that could become a problem. However, on reflection, I think we have to say that quite honestly it is not appropriate to elaborate on the Haddon-Cave report, and we do not think it useful to second-guess that inquiry. I cannot comment on what will happen with these cases. They are in the hands of the Royal Air Force Police, to which they were directed following consultation with the Director of Service Prosecutions. I can say no more until the cases come to court or are dropped.
Subjects
Defence; Accidents; Expenditure; Peacekeeping operations; Afghanistan; Defence Logistics Organisation; Nimrod aircraft; Nimrod Review; Pledger, Malcolm; Cowan, Sam
Date
22 March 2010
Reference
718 c751
Chamber / Committee
House of Lords chamber
House
House of Lords
My Lords, I thank the Minister for that extremely disappointing reply and of course add my condolences in relation to the three people killed in Afghanistan whom he mentioned. The military covenant is the tangible expression of the nation’s loyalty to its Armed Forces in return for their loyalty to the nation. In his report on the tragic loss of Nimrod XV230, Mr Haddon-Cave QC publicly condemned two distinguished senior officers, General Sir Sam Cowan and Air Chief Marshal Sir Malcolm Pledger, for imposing the defence cuts that were held partly to blame. Ministers, not senior officers, impose defence cuts, so can the Minister tell the House when the Government will heal this clear breach of the military covenant and demonstrate their loyalty to these now-retired officers by publicly refuting their unwarranted traduction for implementing ministerial direction?
My Lords, I thank the Minister for that extremely disappointing reply and of course add my condolences in relation to the three people killed in Afghanistan whom he mentioned. The military covenant is the tangible expression of the nation’s loyalty to its Armed Forces in return for their loyalty to the nation. In his report on the tragic loss of Nimrod XV230, Mr Haddon-Cave QC publicly condemned two distinguished senior officers, General Sir Sam Cowan and Air Chief Marshal Sir Malcolm Pledger, for imposing the defence cuts that were held partly to blame. Ministers, not senior officers, impose defence cuts, so can the Minister tell the House when the Government will heal this clear breach of the military covenant and demonstrate their loyalty to these now-retired officers by publicly refuting their unwarranted traduction for implementing ministerial direction?
Asked by
Lord Ramsbotham
(Crossbench)
Oral questions - 1st Supplementary
Status
Answered
Answered on
22 March 2010
My Lords, I have nothing to add on the case of the two individuals. The Minister of Defence accepted his responsibility. He also acceptedthe direct recommendations of the report and the wider criticism, and we are acting to implement that report. As I said, we have nothing to add on the case of the individuals.
Subjects
Defence; Accidents; Expenditure; Peacekeeping operations; Afghanistan; Defence Logistics Organisation; Nimrod aircraft; Nimrod Review; Pledger, Malcolm; Cowan, Sam
Date
22 March 2010
Reference
718 c750-1
Chamber / Committee
House of Lords chamber
House
House of Lords
I assume we are talking about the two officers who have retired. It is true that the DLO was required to make these savings. It was expected that efficiencies would be made as a result of restructuring the Defence Logistics Organisation, merging three organisations into one, so it was indeed a government policy for which the Government were responsible. We have commented elsewhere that we have to see whether our systems can be improved to make sure that financial pressures never come into safety decisions. Indeed, we have affirmed that we are putting safety first.
I assume we are talking about the two officers who have retired. It is true that the DLO was required to make these savings. It was expected that efficiencies would be made as a result of restructuring the Defence Logistics Organisation, merging three organisations into one, so it was indeed a government policy for which the Government were responsible. We have commented elsewhere that we have to see whether our systems can be improved to make sure that financial pressures never come into safety decisions. Indeed, we have affirmed that we are putting safety first.
Answered by
Lord Tunnicliffe
(Labour)
Asked by
Lord Addington
(Liberal Democrat)
Type
Oral answers to questions
My Lords, first, I associate myself and these Benches with the condolences that have been expressed to the families and friends of the soldiers of the 1st Battalion The Royal Anglian Regiment who were killed in action. Will the Minister confirm that these officers were carrying out government policy when they were serving? If not, why were they still allowed to serve?
Subjects
Defence; Accidents; Expenditure; Peacekeeping operations; Afghanistan; Defence Logistics Organisation; Nimrod aircraft; Nimrod Review; Pledger, Malcolm; Cowan, Sam
Date
22 March 2010
Reference
718 c751
Chamber / Committee
House of Lords chamber
House
House of Lords
My Lords, first, I associate myself and these Benches with the condolences that have been expressed to the families and friends of the soldiers of the 1st Battalion The Royal Anglian Regiment who were killed in action. Will the Minister confirm that these officers were carrying out government policy when they were serving? If not, why were they still allowed to serve?
My Lords, first, I associate myself and these Benches with the condolences that have been expressed to the families and friends of the soldiers of the 1st Battalion The Royal Anglian Regiment who were killed in action. Will the Minister confirm that these officers were carrying out government policy when they were serving? If not, why were they still allowed to serve?
Asked by
Lord Addington
(Liberal Democrat)
Oral questions - Supplementary
Status
Answered
Answered on
22 March 2010
I assume we are talking about the two officers who have retired. It is true that the DLO was required to make these savings. It was expected that efficiencies would be made as a result of restructuring the Defence Logistics Organisation, merging three organisations into one, so it was indeed a government policy for which the Government were responsible. We have commented elsewhere that we have to see whether our systems can be improved to make sure that financial pressures never come into safety decisions. Indeed, we have affirmed that we are putting safety first.
Subjects
Defence; Accidents; Expenditure; Peacekeeping operations; Afghanistan; Defence Logistics Organisation; Nimrod aircraft; Nimrod Review; Pledger, Malcolm; Cowan, Sam
Date
22 March 2010
Reference
718 c751
Chamber / Committee
House of Lords chamber
House
House of Lords
My Lords, the noble Lord, Lord Robertson of Port Ellen, who was Defence Secretary at the time, says that he accepts full responsibility for the efficiency targets that he set for the Defence Logistics Organisation. He went on to say that Haddon-Cave made no attempt to interview Ministers, so, ""it was particularly unfair and unjust to name General Cowan … the first ever Chief of Defence Logistics, and his successor, Air Chief Marshal Pledger".—[Official Report, 16/12/09; col. 1607.]"
Do Her Majesty’s Government agree with the noble Lord, Lord Robertson, and, if not, why not?
My Lords, the noble Lord, Lord Robertson of Port Ellen, who was Defence Secretary at the time, says that he accepts full responsibility for the efficiency targets that he set for the Defence Logistics Organisation. He went on to say that Haddon-Cave made no attempt to interview Ministers, so, ""it was particularly unfair and unjust to name General Cowan … the first ever Chief of Defence Logistics, and his successor, Air Chief Marshal Pledger".—[Official Report, 16/12/09; col. 1607.]"
Do Her Majesty’s Government agree with the noble Lord, Lord Robertson, and, if not, why not?
Asked by
Lord Craig of Radley
(Crossbench)
Oral questions - Supplementary
Status
Answered
Answered on
22 March 2010
My Lords, the Government accept the position that my noble friend Lord Robertson set out about responsibility for the cuts. He was clear that it was the intention of the Government of the day that efficiencies should be achieved. However, we will not comment on what my noble friend said about the individuals concerned. He offers a view from the evidence, and that is the only evidence that we have. We do not believe that it makes sense to second-guess the inquiry and we will not do so.
Subjects
Defence; Accidents; Expenditure; Peacekeeping operations; Afghanistan; Defence Logistics Organisation; Nimrod aircraft; Nimrod Review; Pledger, Malcolm; Cowan, Sam
Date
22 March 2010
Reference
718 c751-2
Chamber / Committee
House of Lords chamber
House
House of Lords
My Lords, first I am sure that the whole House will wish to join me in offering sincere condolences to the family and friends of Captain Martin Driver, who died in Selly Oak Hospital last week from wounds sustained in Afghanistan, and of Lance Corporal Scott Hardy and Private James Grigg, who were killed in operations in Afghanistan recently. All were from 1st Battalion The Royal Anglian Regiment.
Before I answer the Question, I declare a past interest as a non-executive director of the DLO, the DPA and subsequently of Defence Equipment and Support. I assure noble Lords that in those roles I was not personally involved in any decisions relating to the matter before us, and that I have no interest, pecuniary or otherwise, to declare.
I turn now to the Question. The answer is no. The report was published last autumn. The Government are implementing its recommendations, but do not intend to make any further comment on Mr Haddon-Cave’s analysis of the roles of individuals.
My Lords, first I am sure that the whole House will wish to join me in offering sincere condolences to the family and friends of Captain Martin Driver, who died in Selly Oak Hospital last week from wounds sustained in Afghanistan, and of Lance Corporal Scott Hardy and Private James Grigg, who were killed in operations in Afghanistan recently. All were from 1st Battalion The Royal Anglian Regiment.
Before I answer the Question, I declare a past interest as a non-executive director of the DLO, the DPA and subsequently of Defence Equipment and Support. I assure noble Lords that in those roles I was not personally involved in any decisions relating to the matter before us, and that I have no interest, pecuniary or otherwise, to declare.
I turn now to the Question. The answer is no. The report was published last autumn. The Government are implementing its recommendations, but do not intend to make any further comment on Mr Haddon-Cave’s analysis of the roles of individuals.
Answered by
Lord Tunnicliffe
(Labour)
Asked by
Lord Ramsbotham
(Crossbench)
Type
Oral answers to questions
To ask Her Majesty’s Government whether there has been any change to the position regarding General Sir Sam Cowan and Air Chief Marshal Sir Malcolm Pledger and the allegations made against them in the Haddon-Cave report on the Nimrod XV230 crash.
Subjects
Defence; Accidents; Expenditure; Peacekeeping operations; Afghanistan; Defence Logistics Organisation; Nimrod aircraft; Nimrod Review; Pledger, Malcolm; Cowan, Sam
Date
22 March 2010
Reference
718 c750
Chamber / Committee
House of Lords chamber
House
House of Lords
To ask Her Majesty’s Government whether there has been any change to the position regarding General Sir Sam Cowan and Air Chief Marshal Sir Malcolm Pledger and the allegations made against them in the Haddon-Cave report on the Nimrod XV230 crash.
To ask Her Majesty’s Government whether there has been any change to the position regarding General Sir Sam Cowan and Air Chief Marshal Sir Malcolm Pledger and the allegations made against them in the Haddon-Cave report on the Nimrod XV230 crash.
Asked by
Lord Ramsbotham
(Crossbench)
Answered by
Lord Tunnicliffe
(Labour)
Oral questions - Lead
Status
Answered
For answer on
22 March 2010
Answered on
22 March 2010
My Lords, first I am sure that the whole House will wish to join me in offering sincere condolences to the family and friends of Captain Martin Driver, who died in Selly Oak Hospital last week from wounds sustained in Afghanistan, and of Lance Corporal Scott Hardy and Private James Grigg, who were killed in operations in Afghanistan recently. All were from 1st Battalion The Royal Anglian Regiment.
Before I answer the Question, I declare a past interest as a non-executive director of the DLO, the DPA and subsequently of Defence Equipment and Support. I assure noble Lords that in those roles I was not personally involved in any decisions relating to the matter before us, and that I have no interest, pecuniary or otherwise, to declare.
I turn now to the Question. The answer is no. The report was published last autumn. The Government are implementing its recommendations, but do not intend to make any further comment on Mr Haddon-Cave’s analysis of the roles of individuals.
Subjects
Defence; Accidents; Expenditure; Peacekeeping operations; Afghanistan; Defence Logistics Organisation; Nimrod aircraft; Nimrod Review; Pledger, Malcolm; Cowan, Sam
Date
22 March 2010
Reference
718 c750
Chamber / Committee
House of Lords chamber
House
House of Lords
Government response to the Haddon-Cave Nimrod review, December 2009. 12 p.
Government response to the Haddon-Cave Nimrod review, December 2009. 12 p.
Deposited by
Ministry of Defence
Type
Deposited papers
Author
Ministry of Defence
Committed on
16 December 2009
Originated on
16 December 2009
Received on
16 December 2009
Subjects
Accidents; Defence equipment; Procurement; Military aircraft; Standards; Regulation; Safety; Nimrod aircraft; Military Aviation Authority; Nimrod Review
Date
16 December 2009
Reference
DEP2009-3174
House
House of Lords; House of Commons
Lords statement on the Nimrod Review.
Lords statement on the Nimrod Review.
Lead member
Lord Tunnicliffe
Department
Ministry of Defence
Type
Ministerial statements
Subjects
Disciplinary proceedings; Contracts; Defence; Accidents; Industry; Military aircraft; Ministry of Defence; Standards; Regulation; Safety; BAE Systems; QinetiQ; Nimrod aircraft; Military Aviation Authority; Nimrod Review
Date
16 December 2009
Reference
715 c1595-608
Chamber / Committee
House of Lords chamber
House
House of Lords
Statement on the Nimrod Review.
Statement on the Nimrod Review.
Lead member
Bob Ainsworth
Department
Ministry of Defence
Type
Ministerial statements
Subjects
Disciplinary proceedings; Contracts; Defence; Accidents; Industry; Military aircraft; Ministry of Defence; Standards; Regulation; Safety; BAE Systems; QinetiQ; Nimrod aircraft; Military Aviation Authority; Nimrod Review
Date
16 December 2009
Reference
502 c967-76
Chamber / Committee
House of Commons chamber
House
House of Commons
My Lords, I recognise the contribution made by the noble Baroness, Lady Cohen, to defence, and her role. I can agree with her statement to the extent that Haddon-Cave admitted that he took no evidence in this area. Our acceptance of the report specifically concerns acceptance of the recommendations which...
My Lords, I recognise the contribution made by the noble Baroness, Lady Cohen, to defence, and her role. I can agree with her statement to the extent that Haddon-Cave admitted that he took no evidence in this area. Our acceptance of the report specifically concerns acceptance of the recommendations which...
Member
Lord Tunnicliffe
(Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Subjects
Disciplinary proceedings; Contracts; Defence; Accidents; Industry; Military aircraft; Ministry of Defence; Standards; Regulation; Safety; BAE Systems; QinetiQ; Nimrod aircraft; Military Aviation Authority; Nimrod Review
Date
16 December 2009
Reference
715 c1603
Chamber / Committee
House of Lords chamber
House
House of Lords
I think I recall that, many years ago, the noble Lord flew me to an oil rig. The Secretary of State announced yesterday that the Nimrod MR2 would be brought out of service 12 months earlier than planned. He emphasised, as do I, that that was not related to the...
I think I recall that, many years ago, the noble Lord flew me to an oil rig. The Secretary of State announced yesterday that the Nimrod MR2 would be brought out of service 12 months earlier than planned. He emphasised, as do I, that that was not related to the...
Member
Lord Tunnicliffe
(Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Subjects
Disciplinary proceedings; Contracts; Defence; Accidents; Industry; Military aircraft; Ministry of Defence; Standards; Regulation; Safety; BAE Systems; QinetiQ; Nimrod aircraft; Military Aviation Authority; Nimrod Review
Date
16 December 2009
Reference
715 c1604
Chamber / Committee
House of Lords chamber
House
House of Lords
My Lords, I apologise for arriving a little late after the Minister began the Statement—which of course I had read, having seen it in the Printed Paper Office earlier. Like him, I have spent a great deal of my life involved with both civil and military aviation, first in the...
My Lords, I apologise for arriving a little late after the Minister began the Statement—which of course I had read, having seen it in the Printed Paper Office earlier. Like him, I have spent a great deal of my life involved with both civil and military aviation, first in the...
Member
Lord Glenarthur
(Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Subjects
Disciplinary proceedings; Contracts; Defence; Accidents; Industry; Military aircraft; Ministry of Defence; Standards; Regulation; Safety; BAE Systems; QinetiQ; Nimrod aircraft; Military Aviation Authority; Nimrod Review
Date
16 December 2009
Reference
715 c1603-4
Chamber / Committee
House of Lords chamber
House
House of Lords
My Lords, I thank the noble and gallant Lord for his comments but he will forgive me if I do not respond to them because he seems to have made some general remarks on costs and on the present funding of the Armed Forces. The essence of the issue before...
My Lords, I thank the noble and gallant Lord for his comments but he will forgive me if I do not respond to them because he seems to have made some general remarks on costs and on the present funding of the Armed Forces. The essence of the issue before...
Member
Lord Tunnicliffe
(Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Subjects
Disciplinary proceedings; Contracts; Defence; Accidents; Industry; Military aircraft; Ministry of Defence; Standards; Regulation; Safety; BAE Systems; QinetiQ; Nimrod aircraft; Military Aviation Authority; Nimrod Review
Date
16 December 2009
Reference
715 c1605
Chamber / Committee
House of Lords chamber
House
House of Lords
My Lords, I thank the noble Lord for repeating the Statement. I, too, greatly regret that Mr Haddon-Cave did not consider the role and responsibilities of Ministers. Following the SDR in 1998, the failure of the Government adequately to fund the proposed new defence strategy led to more and more...
My Lords, I thank the noble Lord for repeating the Statement. I, too, greatly regret that Mr Haddon-Cave did not consider the role and responsibilities of Ministers. Following the SDR in 1998, the failure of the Government adequately to fund the proposed new defence strategy led to more and more...
Member
Lord Craig of Radley
(Crossbench)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Subjects
Disciplinary proceedings; Contracts; Defence; Accidents; Industry; Military aircraft; Ministry of Defence; Standards; Regulation; Safety; BAE Systems; QinetiQ; Nimrod aircraft; Military Aviation Authority; Nimrod Review
Date
16 December 2009
Reference
715 c1604-5
Chamber / Committee
House of Lords chamber
House
House of Lords
Who will have to enforce it?
Who will have to enforce it?
Member
Lord Gilbert
(Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Subjects
Disciplinary proceedings; Contracts; Defence; Accidents; Industry; Military aircraft; Ministry of Defence; Standards; Regulation; Safety; BAE Systems; QinetiQ; Nimrod aircraft; Military Aviation Authority; Nimrod Review
Date
16 December 2009
Reference
715 c1602
Chamber / Committee
House of Lords chamber
House
House of Lords
My Lords, the MAA will have that power. It will audit, in a sense, everything that is done on the safety environment, all the inter-service documentation and any significant alternations, and it will have an accident investigation capability.
My Lords, the MAA will have that power. It will audit, in a sense, everything that is done on the safety environment, all the inter-service documentation and any significant alternations, and it will have an accident investigation capability.
Member
Lord Tunnicliffe
(Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Subjects
Disciplinary proceedings; Contracts; Defence; Accidents; Industry; Military aircraft; Ministry of Defence; Standards; Regulation; Safety; BAE Systems; QinetiQ; Nimrod aircraft; Military Aviation Authority; Nimrod Review
Date
16 December 2009
Reference
715 c1602
Chamber / Committee
House of Lords chamber
House
House of Lords