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I start by thanking the hon. Members for North Shropshire (Helen Morgan) and for Sheffield, Hallam (Olivia Blake). I know the hon. Member for Sheffield, Hallam could not be here this afternoon, but she has done a huge amount of work over the last 12 months, since the last debate....

Member
Maria Caulfield (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Notes
Ministerial Correction 7 November 2023 (740 c1-2MC)
Date
19 October 2023
Reference
738 cc470-4
House
House of Commons

I beg to move,

That this House has considered Baby Loss Awareness Week.

I thank the Backbench Business Committee and all those who have supported this important debate. In particular, I thank the hon. Member for Sheffield, Hallam (Olivia Blake), who, unfortunately and unexpectedly, has been unable to attend. She sends her...

Member
Helen Morgan (Liberal Democrat)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
19 October 2023
Reference
738 cc450-3
House
House of Commons

It is a pleasure to speak on this important subject. I pay tribute to the hon. Members for Sheffield, Hallam (Olivia Blake) and for North Shropshire (Helen Morgan), and the others who have secured the debate. It has become something of a tradition that we mark Baby Loss Awareness Week,...

Member
Tim Loughton (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
19 October 2023
Reference
738 cc453-4
House
House of Commons

Does my hon. Friend agree that the fact that aftercare for fathers is often lacking places a huge burden on relationships? Sadly, the statistics show that 50% of relationships can break down after the loss of a baby. Does he agree that we need to do much more to support...

Member
Cherilyn Mackrory (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
19 October 2023
Reference
738 c454
House
House of Commons

My hon. Friend, who again has great experience and has been exceedingly forward with her own experiences, is absolutely right. There have been many studies on maternal perinatal mental health problems. The latest estimate is that that costs this country over £8 billion, and there has been an increase in...

Member
Tim Loughton (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
19 October 2023
Reference
738 c454
House
House of Commons

The hon. Gentleman is correct in what he is saying. Does he agree that one of the problems across the UK is

that, on the whole, most of the stillbirths we have are preventable? When mistakes occur, as they inevitably will at times, there is a culture of cover-up and...

Member
Patricia Gibson (Scottish National Party)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
19 October 2023
Reference
738 c454
House
House of Commons

The hon. Lady gallops way ahead of me; I will come on to speak about that. That is what my private Member’s Bill, now an Act, seeks to address, so I will come back to those comments.

Stillbirths are not the only issue. Progress has been poor on neonatal death rates,...

Member
Tim Loughton (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
19 October 2023
Reference
738 c455
House
House of Commons

I am grateful to my hon. Friend for giving way. It allows me the opportunity to welcome the fact that, last week, NHS Grampian announced the upgrading of the bereavement suite at Dr Gray’s Hospital. Marsha Dean from Elgin, one of two bereavement specialist midwives in the NHS Grampian area,...

Member
Douglas Ross (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
19 October 2023
Reference
738 c455
House
House of Commons

I am grateful to my hon. Friend for putting on record what his local hospital is doing, and I hope that that is happening around the country. Certainly, my own hospital takes great pride in its bereavement suites and they have made a big difference to the impact on parents...

Member
Tim Loughton (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
19 October 2023
Reference
738 cc455-9
House
House of Commons

My hon. Friend is making brilliant points, which I am so grateful for. Does he agree that those healthcare professionals will probably welcome this because it will start to break down the blame culture that the hon. Member for North Ayrshire and Arran (Patricia Gibson) talked about?

Member
Cherilyn Mackrory (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
19 October 2023
Reference
738 c458
House
House of Commons

My hon. Friend is absolutely right. We do not want a blame game. When I was the Minister for Children and we reviewed extraordinary and harrowing child deaths at the hands of various people, it was the blame game for social workers that so undermined the profession. It is not...

Member
Tim Loughton (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
19 October 2023
Reference
738 cc458-460
House
House of Commons

It is a great honour to follow my hon. Friend the Member for East Worthing and Shoreham (Tim Loughton), who set out very clearly his work in this space, for which I am very grateful. I extend an offer to him to use the all-party parliamentary group on baby loss...

Member
Cherilyn Mackrory (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
19 October 2023
Reference
738 cc460-2
House
House of Commons

I want to re-emphasise that point because it is so important. When a baby goes for a post-mortem examination, it is in transit and away from its parents. The parents are often unable to keep track of the remains of their baby and when they will get

them back. Does...

Member
Helen Morgan (Liberal Democrat)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
19 October 2023
Reference
738 c462
House
House of Commons

I agree wholeheartedly. There are a couple of ways in which we can do that. One is the roll-out and expansion to all centres of minimally invasive autopsies and other non-invasive techniques. Not all post-mortems need to be invasive. Certainly, there needs to be an expansion of placental autopsies—if that...

Member
Cherilyn Mackrory (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
19 October 2023
Reference
738 cc463-4
House
House of Commons

I did not mean to interrupt the hon. Lady. I am so grateful to her for giving way. Before she ends, I just want to commend her on picking up the mantle as one of the chairs of the all-party group on baby loss. I was one of the founding...

Member
Sharon Hodgson (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
19 October 2023
Reference
738 cc464-5
House
House of Commons

I am really grateful to the hon. Lady for sharing that with me. I apologise; I knew there would be so many Members I missed off my list. It is an open thank you to everybody who set up that APPG. I also did not mention the hon. Member for...

Member
Cherilyn Mackrory (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
19 October 2023
Reference
738 c465
House
House of Commons

I thank the hon. Member for North Shropshire (Helen Morgan) for bringing forward this debate, which has become something of an annual event in the calendar. It is very important that we have it.

I want to let the hon. Member for East Worthing and Shoreham (Tim Loughton) know that I...

Member
Patricia Gibson (Scottish National Party)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
19 October 2023
Reference
738 cc465-7
House
House of Commons

My hon. Friend is making a very personal speech, and I am sure we are all listening intently. Will she join me in paying tribute to the wonderful charity that serves my constituency, Baby Loss Retreat, based in Glasgow? It is helping people through the most traumatic of times and...

Member
Steven Bonnar (Scottish National Party)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
19 October 2023
Reference
738 c467
House
House of Commons

I thank my hon. Friend for his intervention. I can see that the Minister was listening carefully, and I am sure she will want to take that back to her colleagues in Cabinet who can take the action that would allow parents who want a certificate before 24 weeks to...

Member
Patricia Gibson (Scottish National Party)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
19 October 2023
Reference
738 cc467-8
House
House of Commons

I am really grateful to the hon. Lady for the testimony she is giving, and I absolutely agree with almost everything she is saying. However, does she agree that there is a very big difference between a genuine mistake that a midwife or health professional might make and negligence, and...

Member
Cherilyn Mackrory (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
19 October 2023
Reference
738 c468
House
House of Commons