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Westminster Hall adjournment debate on the protection of Ashraf residents under the Geneva Convention.

Lead member
Andrew Mackinlay
Answering member
Bill Rammell
Department
Foreign and Commonwealth Office
Type
Adjournment debates
Date
25 March 2009
Reference
490 c73-92WH
House
House of Commons

The question is academic, because no country is lining up to offer immigration to the Ashraf people, although it is fair to say that they do not want to move. An immediate issue is the determination of the Iranian regime to have them back in its claws. I shall return...

Member
Andrew Mackinlay (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
25 March 2009
Reference
490 c75WH
House
House of Commons

The hon. Gentleman is aware that the Iraqi Government have said that they will remove the 3,500 people from the camp without force, perhaps to other countries. Does he know which other countries would take them, and whether the Ashraf people are prepared to talk or whether they want to...

Member
Bob Spink (Independent (affiliation))
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
25 March 2009
Reference
490 c75WH
House
House of Commons

To say the least, it is highly probable that they would be executed and/or suffer appalling persecution. It is important to remember that the Foreign Office, which is very much an hereditary Foreign Office, consists of people similar to those who made the judgment in 1945 to return the Cossacks...

Member
Andrew Mackinlay (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
25 March 2009
Reference
490 c75WH
House
House of Commons

Does the hon. Gentleman not also find it ironic that although one benefit of the Iraq war is that the people of Iraq have been released from one of the most hideous regimes, under the tyrant Saddam Hussein, one consequence of that—what now could occur—is that a group of people...

Member
Nigel Evans (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
25 March 2009
Reference
490 c75WH
House
House of Commons

I am pleased to raise this debate about the residents of Ashraf City and the obligations of the United Kingdom, and other members of the so-called coalition, to them in terms of their protected person status under the Geneva convention. I am proud, for the purposes of the debate this...

Member
Andrew Mackinlay (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
25 March 2009
Reference
490 c73-5WH
House
House of Commons

I will come on to how we are trying to carry out our responsibilities notwithstanding the fact that we are now dealing with a sovereign state and a democratic country that has its own rights and responsibilities. Inevitably, in those circumstances, our relationship will be different from the one in...

Member
Bill Rammell (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
25 March 2009
Reference
490 c90WH
House
House of Commons

The Minister is trespassing on the question of visitors. In the past few weeks, two UK citizens wanted to visit loved ones. One of them, Mr. Tabrizi, who is known to us in the parliamentary campaign committee, was turned away. There was no question of him not being able to...

Member
Andrew Mackinlay (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
25 March 2009
Reference
490 c90-1WH
House
House of Commons

If my hon. Friend provides the details to my office, I will ensure that I look into that specific case. I will come to his suggestion. As he and I have discussed, I am minded to do something about it. Notwithstanding the action, we believe that residents remain free to...

Member
Bill Rammell (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
25 March 2009
Reference
490 c91-2WH
House
House of Commons

I congratulate the hon. Member for Thurrock (Andrew Mackinlay) on securing this debate. He has long developed a reputation in the House as a doughty champion of neglected causes, of which this is one. I pay tribute to his tenacity in demanding answers from whichever Ministers of whichever party have...

Member
David Lidington (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
25 March 2009
Reference
490 c86-7WH
House
House of Commons

I listened to what the hon. Member for East Dunbartonshire (Jo Swinson) said about the Library note—I shall take a look at it—but now the hon. Gentleman has mentioned it, too. The accusation that people cannot leave Ashraf is a canard—I use that word against not them but the Iranian...

Member
Andrew Mackinlay (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
25 March 2009
Reference
490 c87WH
House
House of Commons

There was a token one; I use the word "token" because the IPU encourages delegations to bring women to conferences, because we want more women to be elected and to take positions of responsibility. I am afraid that there was just one, token, woman in the Iranian delegation. Our delegation...

Member
Nigel Evans (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
25 March 2009
Reference
490 c82-3WH
House
House of Commons

I congratulate the hon. Member for Thurrock (Andrew Mackinlay) on securing the debate; as ever, he put his case forcefully and with passion and gave an excellent introduction. Various hon. Members have outlined the problems of residents of Camp Ashraf, who numbered nearly 4,000 in 2003 and, after several hundred...

Member
Jo Swinson (Liberal Democrat)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
25 March 2009
Reference
490 c83-6WH
House
House of Commons

Our permanent membership of the UN Security Council has an impact on our responsibilities for upholding international humanitarian law. Therefore, are there not responsibilities in that respect?

Member
Brian Binley (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
25 March 2009
Reference
490 c90WH
House
House of Commons

I listen with respect to the hon. Gentleman. It has been some months since I read the published criticism from Human Rights Watch, but my memory is that, shortly after it published it, it was subjected to published criticisms from various quarters and that it then responded and stood by...

Member
David Lidington (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
25 March 2009
Reference
490 c87-8WH
House
House of Commons

I am pleased to respond to my hon. Friend the Member for Thurrock (Andrew Mackinlay), whom I congratulate on securing this debate. He and a number of his colleagues have pursued this issue with passion and conviction, and I genuinely congratulate them on doing so. I am aware that several...

Member
Bill Rammell (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
25 March 2009
Reference
490 c88-90WH
House
House of Commons

Part of the problem, of course, is getting our minds around the idea of how society in Iran functions. We know that women who are inappropriately dressed in the street will be beaten, and put into cars and driven off. We have seen footage of that on the BBC. When...

Member
Nigel Evans (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
25 March 2009
Reference
490 c82WH
House
House of Commons

I have been listening to the hon. Gentleman's intriguing tale of meeting Iranian MPs and his remarks highlighting the mistreatment of women, and wonder whether there were any women MPs in the delegation he met.

Member
Jo Swinson (Liberal Democrat)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
25 March 2009
Reference
490 c82WH
House
House of Commons

I am sure that the hon. Gentleman would agree about the public façade adopted by the Iranian regime; the Iranian Parliament last year passed a penal code outlawing stonings, but the Government are incapable of enforcing their own rules. Does he agree that when we think of Ashraf City we...

Member
Mark Williams (Liberal Democrat)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
25 March 2009
Reference
490 c82WH
House
House of Commons

Does the hon. Gentleman accept that President Talabani has said:""The Monafeqin are criminals who have committed countless crimes against the people of Iraq too and the Iraqi government is determined to expel them and it will carry this out"?"

Member
Brian Binley (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
25 March 2009
Reference
490 c76WH
House
House of Commons