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Type
House of Commons papers; Select Committee oral evidence; Parliamentary committees
Committee
Home Affairs Committee
Date
1 December 2025
Reference
HC 1553 2024-26
House
House of Commons

Lords statement on new government measures to tackle unacceptable behaviour at protests.

Lead member
Lord Sharpe of Epsom
Department
Home Office
Type
Ministerial statements
Date
13 February 2024
Reference
836 cc149-160
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I thank the Minister for this debate on last week’s Government Statement on protest measures. It is important to start my comments on such a Statement by thanking the police for all the work they are doing to maintain public order across the country. We know that many...

Member
Lord Coaker (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
13 February 2024
Reference
836 cc150-2
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I appreciate that the Government are trying to strike a balance among competing priorities—maintaining the right to peaceful protest, restraining incitement to racial and religious hatred, and keeping the country moving, free from disruptive events. It is right that police use all available powers to arrest those who...

Member
Baroness Doocey (Liberal Democrat)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
13 February 2024
Reference
836 cc152-4
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I thank both the noble Lord, Lord Coaker, and the noble Baroness, Lady Doocey, for their generally supportive remarks. Like the noble Lord, Lord Coaker, I join in congratulating, thanking and praising the police for their strenuous efforts to keep us all safe during the recent heightened protest...

Member
Lord Sharpe of Epsom (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
13 February 2024
Reference
836 cc154-6
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I hope my noble friend will be cautious about invoking criminal law unless there are clear mischiefs to be addressed. I entirely agree with the noble Lord, Lord Coaker, about face coverings and was much reassured by what my noble friend said, but I am much less happy...

Member
Viscount Hailsham (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
13 February 2024
Reference
836 c156
House
House of Lords

I take my noble friend’s point, though I must admit that I did not realise that he had quite such a colourful past. I am afraid that, on this, the Government disagree, and think that this is a proportionate measure.

Member
Lord Sharpe of Epsom (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
13 February 2024
Reference
836 c156
House
House of Lords

My Lords, not for the first time in the last 24 hours, it is a pleasure to follow the noble Viscount, Lord Hailsham. Why was this announcement made by vague press release on a Wednesday evening, rather than in the House of Commons? While I am grateful to the Minister,...

Member
Baroness Chakrabarti (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
13 February 2024
Reference
836 c156
House
House of Lords

I do not entirely disagree with the noble Baroness, but I do not think this is the particular forum for that discussion. It is clearly a philosophical discussion, as much as a legal and operational one, that is required around the appropriate extent of facial recognition technology. I am sure...

Member
Lord Sharpe of Epsom (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
13 February 2024
Reference
836 c156
House
House of Lords

My Lords, like others, I entirely share the views about war memorials and their desecration, and fireworks and flares—there is a lot that is sensible in this. On face coverings, what concerns me is the law which we often do not often think about—the law of unintended consequences. To those...

Member
Archbishop of York (Bishops (affiliation))
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
13 February 2024
Reference
836 c156
House
House of Lords

The current legislation gives police the power to direct people to remove face coverings in designated areas and to seize face coverings, but there is a loophole, in that an individual could follow the direction of an officer to remove their face covering but then move to a new area...

Member
Lord Sharpe of Epsom (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
13 February 2024
Reference
836 c157
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I welcome this package, a number of measures in which I recommended in my role as the Government’s independent adviser on political violence and disruption. Can the Minister say more about how the Government intend to mitigate the Ziegler judgment, which is a very welcome commitment on the...

Member
Lord Walney (Crossbench)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
13 February 2024
Reference
836 c157
House
House of Lords

The noble Lord asks a very good question, because this is about, effectively, reasonable excuse. The Ziegler judgment held that obstructive protests that intentionally cause disruption can be protected by Articles 10 and 11 of the ECHR. That means that those who purposefully disrupt the daily lives of others can...

Member
Lord Sharpe of Epsom (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
13 February 2024
Reference
836 c157
House
House of Lords

My Lords, most of us have witnessed and been involved in protests, and even though some have been quite violent and very disturbing, what we have seen over the past four months with the pro-Palestinian marches and protests in London has been on a completely different level. The police have...

Member
Baroness Foster of Oxton (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
13 February 2024
Reference
836 c157
House
House of Lords

My noble friend raises some very good points. She is right that the simple fact of the matter is that recent protests have upped the temperature of protest. However, we have to remain proportionate, and I think this strikes the right balance.

Member
Lord Sharpe of Epsom (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
13 February 2024
Reference
836 c158
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I want to put it on record that I am appalled at the behaviour of the noble Viscount, Lord Hailsham, in climbing on the lions in Trafalgar Square. I think that is unacceptable. I have been on a lot of protests and I have never climbed on a...

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Baroness Jones of Moulsecoomb (Green Party)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
13 February 2024
Reference
836 c158
House
House of Lords

On the noble Baroness’s latter point, those discussions are ongoing and will continue within the Home Office. I certainly raise the subject regularly, not least because I too am concerned about proportionality; I think it entirely right. I am of course aware that the Government cannot ban everything they do...

Member
Lord Sharpe of Epsom (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
13 February 2024
Reference
836 c158
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I declare an interest as chair of the Equality and Human Rights Commission. As the Minister would expect, I looked at this quite carefully in the context of Article 11 of the ECHR. He is right, and I accept fully, that

Article 11.2 gives the state the right...

Member
Baroness Falkner of Margravine (Crossbench)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
13 February 2024
Reference
836 c158
House
House of Lords

I am afraid that this is the first I have heard of this, so I cannot comment further, but I will of course look into it. These changes are compatible with the ECHR and do not prevent individuals exercising their rights to freedom of expression and assembly. Many of the...

Member
Lord Sharpe of Epsom (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
13 February 2024
Reference
836 c159
House
House of Lords

Will my noble friend the Minister congratulate my noble friend Lord Hailsham on his ability to climb one of those large animals in Trafalgar Square? At the same time, does he accept that what my noble friend said is a salutary reminder? We are becoming too concerned about restriction and...

Member
Lord Deben (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
13 February 2024
Reference
836 c159
House
House of Lords