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My Lords, I thank the noble Lord, Lord Berkeley, for initiating this lively and interesting debate which the noble Lord, Lord Davies of Oldham, promised me at Second Reading. I am sorry that he is not in his place, but I welcome the noble Lord, Lord Rosser, to the Front...

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Baroness Stowell of Beeston (Conservative)
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Date
10 June 2011
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728 c536-7
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House of Lords

I am grateful to my noble friend Lady Stowell for her full response to the amendment moved by the noble Lord, Lord Berkeley. The noble Lord referred to discussions yesterday, and I am very happy to continue them, not least because they are so interesting, because the noble Lord genuinely...

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Earl Attlee (Conservative)
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Date
10 June 2011
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728 c537-9
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House of Lords

I very much agree with what the noble Lord, Lord Mackenzie, has just said. Having debated these matters with the noble Lord, Lord Berkeley, for many years, we all know where his concerns lie, particularly in regard to expenses put on the ship owner through the payment of light dues....

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Lord Greenway (Crossbench)
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Date
10 June 2011
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728 c534-5
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House of Lords

My Lords, I will make only one or two comments about the amendments tabled by my noble friend Lord Berkeley. I do so in the context of repeating that we welcome the Bill. My noble friend raised again the issue of the possible high level of costs that might have...

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Lord Rosser (Labour)
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Date
10 June 2011
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728 c535
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House of Lords

I am grateful to all noble Lords who have participated in this short debate. I shall not try to respond to all comments, but one or two things come to mind. The noble Lord, Lord Addington, and the noble Earl, Lord Caithness, both suggested that the biggest problem that I...

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Lord Berkeley (Labour)
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10 June 2011
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728 c539-40
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House of Lords

1: Clause 1, page 3, line 37, leave out from beginning to end of line 7 on page 4

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Lord Berkeley (Labour)
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Date
10 June 2011
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728 c530
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House of Lords

My Lords, in short, these amendments are about leaving the obligation for the removal of wrecks by default with the Secretary of State. That effectively means leaving the taxpayer with the liability. Clearly, ship operators have to be concerned about costs—and rightly so. However, the Bill—unless I have misread it...

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Lord MacKenzie of Culkein (Labour)
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Proceeding contributions
Date
10 June 2011
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728 c532-3
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House of Lords

My Lords, I shall also speak to Amendment 2 for the convenience of the Committee. Before I start on the substance of the amendment, I record my thanks to the Minister and his officials for a very useful meeting yesterday. I look forward to continuing discussions and this debate today....

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Lord Berkeley (Labour)
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Date
10 June 2011
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728 c530-2
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House of Lords

My Lords, I apologise to your Lordships for not being here for Second Reading, but I have read Hansard carefully. Having just listened to the noble Lord, Lord MacKenzie, I have no doubt that the noble Lord, Lord Berkeley, should be a great deal happier than he appears to be....

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Earl of Caithness (Conservative)
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Date
10 June 2011
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728 c533-4
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House of Lords

My Lords, in the absence of my noble friend Lord Bradshaw, I have looked at the amendments and issues relating to the Bill. The noble Lord, Lord Berkeley, may be technically correct, but it occurs to me that if we get away from the fact that people will break the...

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Lord Addington (Liberal Democrat)
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Date
10 June 2011
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728 c532
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House of Lords

Wreck Removal Convention Bill. Lords committee stage. Clause 1: Planning permission, agreed to. Clause 2 agreed to. Schedule agreed to. Bill reported without amendment.

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Committee of the Whole House (HL); Debates on bills
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10 June 2011
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728 c530-40
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House of Lords
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Baroness Stowell of Beeston (Conservative)
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13 May 2011
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727 c1119
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I thank the noble Lord for giving way. I said that I thought that the GLAs were very competent to do that, and they have long experience of doing so. My concern is that they may end up having to fund the salvage.

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Lord Berkeley (Labour)
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Date
13 May 2011
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727 c1130
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House of Lords

My Lords, I am extremely grateful to all noble Lords who have contributed to the debate today. I thank them for their broad support for the Bill. My noble friend the Minister has responded to most of the questions raised, but there are one or two points to which I...

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Baroness Stowell of Beeston (Conservative)
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Proceeding contributions
Date
13 May 2011
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727 c1136
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House of Lords

My Lords, I am grateful to the noble Baroness, Lady Stowell, for introducing the Bill. My noble friend Lord Lea, who is no longer in his place, asked me whether it referred to maritime wrecks or Members of the House of Lords in a restructured Chamber. I hope I can...

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Lord Berkeley (Labour)
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Date
13 May 2011
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727 c1124-7
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House of Lords

My Lords, I, too, thank the noble Baroness, Lady Stowell of Beeston, for the clear and concise way in which she introduced this small but important Bill. At the outset I must declare an interest as an unpaid Elder Brother of Trinity House. I welcome the Bill, which incorporates the...

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Lord Greenway (Crossbench)
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Date
13 May 2011
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727 c1127-9
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House of Lords

I was just coming to the fact that they are well used to marking wrecks, although, when it comes to the salvage or removal of wrecks, such incidents are very few and far between. Over the past 10 or 12 years the GLAs have been involved in dealing with perhaps...

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Lord Greenway (Crossbench)
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Proceeding contributions
Date
13 May 2011
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727 c1130
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House of Lords

My Lords, of course the Official Opposition welcome the Bill, which is a constructive step forward. Therefore we are grateful to the noble Baroness, Lady Stowell, for introducing it so clearly. We are even more grateful for the fact that the debate attracted a range of very well informed contributors...

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Lord Davies of Oldham (Labour)
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Date
13 May 2011
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727 c1132-3
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House of Lords

My Lords, I am delighted to be able to speak in this Second Reading of the Wreck Removal Convention Bill and I warmly support it. I take the opportunity to congratulate the noble Baroness, Lady Stowell of Beeston, on taking charge of the Bill in this House. Coming from a...

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Lord MacKenzie of Culkein (Labour)
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Proceeding contributions
Date
13 May 2011
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727 c1130-2
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House of Lords

My Lords, I thank my noble friend Lady Stowell for the excellent way in which she introduced her Bill and mastered its technicalities faster than I managed to do. I suspect that she is still further ahead than I am. I listened with interest to all noble Lords’ contributions. It...

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Earl Attlee (Conservative)
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Proceeding contributions
Date
13 May 2011
Reference
727 c1133-6
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House of Lords