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Lords question for short debate on what action they are taking to mitigate the risks posed by the wreck of SS Richard Montgomery.

Lead member
Lord Harris of Haringey
Answering member
Baroness Barran
Department
Department for Transport
Type
Questions for short debate
Date
3 July 2019
Reference
798 cc1499-581
House
House of Lords

My Lords, in February last year City Airport was closed while a 500-kilogram unexploded World War II bomb was made safe. This short debate is about a much larger volume of unexploded and highly dangerous munitions that has been in shallow water in the Medway channel near Sheerness for 75...

Member
Lord Harris of Haringey (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
3 July 2019
Reference
798 cc1499-1501
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I congratulate the noble Lord, Lord Harris of Haringey, on the way in which he has assembled his arguments and the thoroughness with which he has presented them to the House—and also on the slight note of passion in his voice. Obviously he knows this subject extremely well....

Member
Lord Patten (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
3 July 2019
Reference
798 cc1501-3
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I congratulate my noble friend on not only securing this debate but giving us such an interesting and thorough description of what the situation appears to have been in the past and what it is today. Certainly, I would not accept the view of the noble Lord, Lord...

Member
Lord Berkeley (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
3 July 2019
Reference
798 cc1503-5
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I share the gratefulness of the House to the noble Lord, Lord Harris, for introducing this short debate with some expert knowledge. He seemed surprised that the Liberty ship was built in 137 days. One of them was actually built in four days. Although they were built to...

Member
Lord Greenway (Crossbench)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
3 July 2019
Reference
798 c1504
House
House of Lords

If the noble Lord will allow me, I hope he will hitch a ride next year, in 2020, to celebrate the 80th anniversary of the little ships going and coming back. The “Sundowner” will, for sure, be in that fleet of little ships.

Member
Lord Patten (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
3 July 2019
Reference
798 c1504
House
House of Lords

I thank the noble Lord for the invitation, but I am chairman of the preservation society of the old London fire boat, the “Massey Shaw”, which is another Dunkirk veteran, so I may be committed already.

As we have heard, this wreck is surveyed constantly, at least once or twice a...

Member
Lord Greenway (Crossbench)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
3 July 2019
Reference
798 cc1504-7
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I was attracted to this debate for the simple reason that munitions that have been lying around from previous conflicts are something virtually everybody here has grown up with to some extent. Internationally, we get off fairly lightly. The Library briefing refers to the huge amount of munitions...

Member
Lord Addington (Liberal Democrat)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
3 July 2019
Reference
798 cc1506-8
House
House of Lords

My Lords, my noble friend Lord Harris of Haringey is to be congratulated on again pursuing the key questions that he has asked today about the wreck of the SS “Richard Montgomery” and the threat it still potentially poses after 75 years. The wreck is designated as a “dangerous wreck”...

Member
Lord Rosser (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
3 July 2019
Reference
798 cc1508-1511
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I too begin by thanking the noble Lord, Lord Harris of Haringey, for securing this debate. I also thank all noble Lords for the fascinating contributions that we have been privileged to hear in your Lordships’ House this evening. Since I arrived here a year ago, I have...

Member
Baroness Barran (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
3 July 2019
Reference
798 c1511
House
House of Lords

Has there been any historical study of this type of fuse and the rate at which it deteriorates? That is the only solid information that we could get. Has anything been done about that? Apparently it is a standard bomb so there must be other examples.

Member
Lord Addington (Liberal Democrat)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
3 July 2019
Reference
798 c1511
House
House of Lords

There are two answers to that question. Historically, a number of these bombs were shipped unfused, but the records are not available to know whether they were fused or not. In everything we have done, we have made the most cautious assumptions. The other modelling that has been done involved...

Member
Baroness Barran (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
3 July 2019
Reference
798 cc569-570
House
House of Lords

If that was the most recent case—if it were, that would perhaps be reassuring—how quickly were the authorities able to get to the paddle-boarder and remove him?

Member
Lord Harris of Haringey (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
3 July 2019
Reference
798 c570
House
House of Lords

I will have to write to the noble Lord in response to that.

He asked about the assessment made by the Royal Military College of Science in 1970. More recent studies have suggested different outcomes from the one outlined there, but a full assessment of a mass detonation is difficult because...

Member
Baroness Barran (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
3 July 2019
Reference
798 cc1512-576
House
House of Lords

The noble Baroness said that the report considers that the explosives pose no risk if the wreck is stable and nothing moves. Has anyone carried out an assessment of what would happen if something hit it? It is fine having the zones around it and 24-hour monitoring, but if a...

Member
Lord Berkeley (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
3 July 2019
Reference
798 c576
House
House of Lords

I am not aware of whether an assessment has been made but I will write to the noble Lord to confirm on that point. The noble Lord, Lord Greenway, mentioned the establishment of the expert advisory group to help us to consider how best to manage the wreck in future....

Member
Baroness Barran (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
3 July 2019
Reference
798 cc1513-4
House
House of Lords

Motion that this House has considered the use of the Port of Sheerness after the UK leaves the EU. Agreed to on question.

Lead member
Gordon Henderson
Answering member
Nusrat Ghani
Department
Department for Transport
Type
Debates
Date
30 October 2018
Reference
648 cc280-6WH
House
House of Commons

I beg to move,

That this House has considered use of the Port of Sheerness after the UK leaves the EU.

I will try to keep my remarks in order, Mr Bone, and I hope everyone else will, too. Whether or not the Government agree an acceptable post-Brexit deal with the European...

Member
Gordon Henderson (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
30 October 2018
Reference
648 cc281-2WH
House
House of Commons

It is a pleasure to serve under your chairmanship, Mr Bone. I congratulate my hon. Friend the Member for Sittingbourne and Sheppey (Gordon Henderson) on securing this important debate. It highlights an issue that is topical for both his constituency and the wider economy.

Our ports are key to our economic...

Member
Nusrat Ghani (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
30 October 2018
Reference
648 cc282-3WH
House
House of Commons

I want to make it clear—I thought I made it clear in my speech—that I was using Sheerness as an example only because it is in my constituency and I know a lot about it, but the case could apply to many other ports. We should point out to those...

Member
Gordon Henderson (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
30 October 2018
Reference
648 c283WH
House
House of Commons