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My Lords, it is always a pleasure to follow the noble Lord, Lord Bourne of Aberystwyth; his calm, measured tones are always difficult to follow. I also welcome the introduction of the Bill by the noble Baroness, Lady Smith. She was very clear and put forward a very powerful argument...

Member
Lord Scriven (Liberal Democrat)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
23 October 2026
Reference
860 cc869-871
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I thank the noble Baroness, Lady Smith of Llanfaes, for the opportunity to discuss House of Lords reform again. I enjoyed her introductory remarks and agree that this is a very good opportunity to begin to discuss some issues that go beyond the particulars that some of the...

Member
Lord Burns (Crossbench)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
23 October 2026
Reference
860 cc871-4
House
House of Lords

My Lords, it is a pleasure to follow the very thoughtful contribution of the noble Lord, Lord Burns, and I commend the noble Baroness, Lady Smith, on bringing forward this Private Member’s Bill.

I am the first to acknowledge that Governments—and, more to the point, the public—face challenges that may feel...

Member
Baroness O'Grady of Upper Holloway (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
23 October 2026
Reference
860 cc874-5
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I am delighted to follow the noble Baroness, Lady O’Grady, and I agree very much with most of her points. I am grateful to her for her forthright views. I am also grateful to the noble Lords, Lord Blunkett, Lord Bourne, Lord Scriven and Lord Burns, for their...

Member
Lord Wigley (Plaid Cymru)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
23 October 2026
Reference
860 cc875-8
House
House of Lords

My Lords, it is always a pleasure to follow the mellifluous contribution of the noble Lord, Lord Wigley, although invariably we disagree. I begin by congratulating the noble Baroness, Lady Smith of Llanfaes, on bringing this Bill forward. She is above all consistent and principled. She came into this House...

Member
Lord Jackson of Peterborough (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
23 October 2026
Reference
860 cc878-9
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I add my voice to the swelling paean of praise for the noble Baroness, Lady Smith of Llanfaes. Peers on all

sides have commended her for her courage, which is true but also very telling. It presupposes that she knew that her Bill would be unpopular here, which...

Member
Lord Hannan of Kingsclere (Non-affiliated)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
23 October 2026
Reference
860 cc879-881
House
House of Lords

My Lords, it is a pleasure to follow the noble Lord, although whether the noble Lord would say the same about me if our positions in the list were reversed, I cannot say. I am sorry to say that I was not in the Chamber when the noble Baroness introduced...

Member
Viscount Stansgate (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
23 October 2026
Reference
860 cc881-5
House
House of Lords

It is a great pleasure to follow the noble Viscount, Lord Stansgate, and to express my entire agreement with him that we have to take the Bill forward. First, may I briefly add to what all noble Lords have already said about the excellent way in which the noble Baroness,...

Member
Lord Thomas of Cwmgiedd (Crossbench)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
23 October 2026
Reference
860 cc884-6
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I congratulate the noble Baroness, Lady Smith, not only on her good fortune in the Private Member’s Bill ballot but because of the care she has taken in framing this Bill. She has chosen the wording very wisely. I must express solidarity with her, not just because I...

Member
Baroness Taylor of Bolton (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
23 October 2026
Reference
860 cc886-8
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I thank your Lordships’ House for allowing me to speak in the gap. It is a pleasure to follow the noble Baroness, Lady Taylor, and to congratulate the noble Baroness, Lady Smith, on her Bill and on her powerful introductory speech. I very much agree with the noble...

Member
Baroness Bennett of Manor Castle (Green Party)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
23 October 2026
Reference
860 cc888-9
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I too thank the noble Baroness, Lady Smith, and express my envy of her luck in coming out of the ballot. I hope she might perhaps be tempted to buy me some lottery tickets this weekend. This is an important issue and, as both the noble Viscount, Lord...

Member
Lord Pack (Liberal Democrat)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
23 October 2026
Reference
860 cc889-892
House
House of Lords

My Lords, it is a pleasure to speak to this Bill, which has invited a broad debate on the future of your Lordships’ House. The noble Baroness, Lady Smith of Llanfaes, has a principled opposition to the House of Lords, and it is that principled conviction that underpins the Bill....

Member
Baroness Finn (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
23 October 2026
Reference
860 cc892-4
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I congratulate the noble Baroness, Lady Smith of Llanfaes, on securing the Second Reading of her Bill. The noble Baroness has spoken passionately and eloquently in previous debates about reforming your Lordships’ House and today is no different. As a number of noble Lords, including the noble Baroness,...

Member
Baroness Twycross (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
23 October 2026
Reference
860 cc893-6
House
House of Lords

Before the Minister sits down, she said that this Bill would restrict the right of the Government on when and how to consult. As there is a manifesto commitment, what she did not give from the Dispatch Box was a commitment that the Government will start, or even end, the...

Member
Lord Scriven (Liberal Democrat)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
23 October 2026
Reference
860 c896
House
House of Lords

It was a manifesto commitment. I cannot say now exactly when it would start. What we do not want is to be bounced into a 12-week consultation from the point at which this Bill would become law.

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Member
Baroness Twycross (Labour)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
23 October 2026
Reference
860 c896
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I thank all Members who participated in the debate, for just over two hours. We have had a really good debate, with lots of interesting viewpoints, but I was, surprisingly, pleased to hear that the majority of Members who spoke today, barring one or two, support reforming this...

Member
Baroness Smith of Llanfaes (Plaid Cymru)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
23 October 2026
Reference
860 cc896-8
House
House of Lords

My Lords, the purpose of this Bill is to cut through the fog of uncertainty that now hangs over the Chagos Islands to provide a fairer, clearer and more principled way forward for not simply the Chagos Islands themselves but,

perhaps more importantly, the Chagossians—and I am delighted that many...

Member
Lord Weir of Ballyholme (Democratic Unionist Party)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
23 October 2026
Reference
860 cc898-901
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I congratulate the noble Lord, Lord Weir of Ballyholme, on tabling this Bill and on his brilliant introduction of it. It is a very good, comprehensive and comprehensible Bill. When a Bill is lucid, it is a symptom of the clarity and sensibility of the objectives enshrined in...

Member
Lord Lilley (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
23 October 2026
Reference
860 cc901-3
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I, too, congratulate the noble Lord, Lord Weir, on advancing this eminently sensible and timely Bill before the House today. It is also a great privilege to follow my noble friend Lord Lilley and to inform the House that I am glad to say that he has given...

Member
Lord Murray of Blidworth (Conservative)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
23 October 2026
Reference
860 cc903-4
House
House of Lords

My Lords, I would like to congratulate my noble friend Lord Weir of Ballyholme on introducing this Motion and on the manner in which he introduced it. It is very rare that we get second chances. Providence has provided us with one here, and I really hope that Ministers will...

Member
Lord Hannan of Kingsclere (Non-affiliated)
Type
Proceeding contributions
Date
23 October 2026
Reference
860 cc904-6
House
House of Lords