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Proceeding contribution from Baroness Jay of Paddington (Labour) in the House of Lords on Monday, 10 October 2005. It occurred during Debate on select committee report on Assisted Dying for the Terminally Ill Bill: Select Committee Report.


Assisted Dying for the Terminally Ill Bill: Select Committee Report

My Lords, I have been passed a note which states that the list of speakers has been changed. With the permission of the House, I shall therefore speak now instead of my noble friend. It was a great privilege to serve on the committee under the absolutely exemplary chairmanship of the noble and learned Lord, Lord Mackay of Clashfern. His leadership enabled us to produce this unanimous report and to reintroduce the subject of assisted dying into this new Parliament. As has been said, everybody who served on the committee learned a great deal from our extensive inquiries. I found it an enormously educative experience. I remind the House that I was a member of the previous committee, which, 10 years ago, recommended that the legal prohibition of assisted dying should remain. However, I have been convinced both by the ethical arguments of personal autonomy and by the practical issues of patient choice in 21st-century medicine to change my mind. I now believe very strongly that the law must change. In the brief time allotted to us all today, we are bound to make points about a complex subject in headline terms. My first headline is that it is extremely important for Parliament to listen to public opinion. After all, this is a difficult legal and ethical issue, but everyone has personal experience of death and of dying. Polling evidence can always be challenged, but no responsible survey that I have seen has shown less than 70 per cent support for a change in the law. Would it be that many of the measures which we pass in this House had that level of approbation. I remind the House of what was said by the noble and learned Lord, Lord Mackay of Clashfern. He said:"““A key finding of the committee was that while the most careful account must be taken of expert evidence—" I bow to no one in my respect for the position of the noble Baroness, Lady Finlay of Llandaff, and of the other doctors we have listened to—"““at the end of the day, the acceptability of assisted suicide or voluntary euthanasia is an issue for society to decide through its legislators in Parliament””." Expert medical evidence quite rightly played a large part in our inquiries and medical opinion appears to be changing. One eminent doctor who gave us evidence told us that he hoped that opposition to the Bill of the noble Lord, Lord Joffe,"““wouldn’t become the last bastion of medical paternalism in this country””." I shall briefly address some of the concerns of palliative care which the noble Baroness, Lady Finlay, has just raised. I believe that doctors in her specialty remain more adamantly opposed to the change in the law than many of their colleagues. I shall précis their arguments, again in headline terms. They argue—and the noble Baroness argued this most articulately throughout our hearings—that their specialist services can solve all the concerns of a dying person and therefore remove the need for assisted suicide or voluntary euthanasia. Like the noble Baroness, Lady Thomas, I see no dichotomy at all between supporting, extending and improving every type of palliative care and supporting the Bill of the noble Lord, Lord Joffe. As a health Minister and through my very long associations with the National Health Service, I have always supported the hospice movement and palliative care in all its forms, but this is not an either/or question. One of the most telling lessons we learnt as a Select Committee was that for some terminally ill patients—and we should not argue on the basis of particular anecdotes—palliative care, however expertly given, is just not the solution. For such people, who are probably always in a minority and perhaps a small minority, the loss of independence, control and dignity—which is what one might call a much more existential form of suffering—is what makes them seek assisted suicide. We saw that vividly illustrated during our visit to the state of Oregon; personally, I would hope that our legislation would closely follow the Oregon Death with Dignity Act rather than the experience in the Netherlands. A recent research report, written by our committee’s special adviser, Dr Farsides, noted:"““There was nothing to suggest that the Act had had a detrimental effect on end-of-life care . . . it would appear that change has taken place in parallel to concerted efforts . . . to care for dying patients””." So in practice it is not an either/or situation. Also in her review, Dr Farsides noted that there was no evidence of the so-called slippery slope—the increased demand made by the availability of assisted suicide in Oregon. Since the legislation for physician-assisted suicide, the numbers of people using the provisions of the Act has remained stable and small for eight years. I give a final headline. The experience of Oregon shows that far more people ask for a lethal prescription than actually use it. For many, it is seen as a comforting insurance policy against unbearable suffering. Most importantly, it gives the patient ultimate personal control over when and how they die—over the end-of-life decision. In our very civilised secular society, I do not believe that we can deny that final right to our citizens. This Government have a proud record in social policy of extending and improving human rights. The Select Committee has indicated a clear way forward. A new Bill, to be introduced by the noble Lord, Lord Joffe, can provide an historic opportunity to add to that record. I follow my noble friend Lord Carter in asking the Minister to receive this report favourably and for the Government to give the Bill a fair wind.


Secondary information

Type
Proceeding contribution
Reference
674 c25-7 
Session
2005-06
Chamber / Committee
House of Lords chamber
Subjects
Consent to medical treatment Depressive illnesses Chronic illnesses Diagnosis Doctors Ethics Euthanasia Medical treatments Older people Mental capacity Public opinion Palliative care Prescriptions Pain Suicide
Legislation
Assisted Dying for the Terminally Ill Bill (HL) 2004/05
Link
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