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Proceeding contribution from Lord Thomas of Gresford (Liberal Democrat) in the House of Lords on Monday, 31 October 2005. It occurred during Debate on bill on Identity Cards Bill.


Identity Cards Bill

My Lords, a moment ago the noble Lord, Lord Giddens, said that it was not for lawyers or judges to protect individual freedoms, but for a democratic society to do so. It is an interesting thought that, in April this year, there were protests in Shanghai aimed at the Japanese consulate. The point causing the protests was that, in the view of the people of China, Japanese textbooks played down the Japanese atrocities in the last war. At first, the government of China appeared to support the protests because it was part of their policy to do so, but after about a fortnight they got nervous, and hundreds of policemen turned up at Tiananmen Square. To do what? To check and record the numbers of the identity cards of people who were out to protest. It was a method of controlling their protest, so that people would know that if they wanted to take to the streets for any reason—whether the government supported it or not—they were marked people and the government would know who they were. Imagine if that were to have happened during the march against the war prior to the invasion of Iraq, and what riots there would have been in this country if the police had set out to mark and number the identity cards of people taking part in that protest, or indeed any protest that has taken place over the past few years. The noble Lord, Lord Giddens, made huge claims for identity cards. They were apparently the answer to globalised crime, and would prevent terrorism, forgery and fraud. It seemed rather like saying that the possession of a driving licence would prevent road traffic offences.


Secondary information

Type
Proceeding contribution
Reference
675 c49-50 
Session
2005-06
Chamber / Committee
House of Lords chamber
Subjects
Disclosure of information Civil liberties Data protection Biometrics Crime prevention Costs Fraud Fees and charges ICT Eligibility Immigration controls Identity cards Undocumented migrants Interviews National security Public appointments Privacy Personation National identity register Proof of identity Passports Registration Social services Office of the Identity Commissioner
Legislation
Identity Cards Bill 2005-06
Link
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