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Proceeding contribution from Lord Murphy of Torfaen (Labour) in the House of Commons on Monday, 9 January 2006. It occurred during Debate on bill on Government of Wales Bill.


Government of Wales Bill

It is for the individual parties to sort out how they select people for election. That is a problem of the system. The additional member system that we have as a result of the 1997 settlement is fundamentally flawed. People do not understand it. They do not understand how an individual can stand in two ways for the same body on the same day in the same election and be defeated, then get elected a matter of an hour or two later. Equally if not more confusing is the fact that, in my constituency and in those of my right hon. and hon. Friends in the south Wales valleys, thousands upon thousands of people vote Labour on their second vote, yet none of those votes is counted. I do not understand the logic of that. I can understand the technicalities, because I taught the subject many years ago when I was a teacher in a college of further education, but as an elector or as an elected representative, I think that it is terribly confusing and ought to be changed. How can the system be changed? We should keep the 40 first-past-the-post AMs and the 20 top-up AMs should be elected on an all-Wales list based on strict proportionality, so that people are elected according to the number of votes cast throughout Wales for their party. That would be easily understood by the people of Wales. In the months and years ahead, there is a debate to be had about what changes might be made. If none is made, the top-up system will become increasingly discredited.


Secondary information

Type
Proceeding contribution
Reference
441 c63-4 
Session
2005-06
Chamber / Committee
House of Commons chamber
Subjects
Devolved matters Abuse Accountability Constituency size Constituencies Candidates Devolution Constitutions Delegated legislation Finance Elections Legislative process Disqualification Legislative competence Functions Electoral systems First ministers Legislative drafting Pay Members National Assembly for Wales Referendums Parliamentary scrutiny Politics and government Parliament Proportional representation Wales Welsh Government National Assembly for Wales Commission Welsh Consolidated Fund
Legislation
Government of Wales Bill 2005-06
Link
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