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Animal Welfare Bill

Yes, and this is a point of principle. Any arguments I have about a better environment, better welfare and better inspection do not weigh with my noble friend at all. That is not a criticism, because I understand where he is coming from. If you have that principled objection, the thing is out of bounds anyway. I have no doubt that that will be explored further at Report. I welcome that; the other House has had a debate on this, and we would be remiss not to. There needs to be consensus between the two Houses on this legislation, and it needs to be realistic. I hope I have said enough to meet most of the points made and given those who wish to come back later with amendments enough to show them the way forward without actually drafting them. We will continue to be available for discussions between the stages so that we can make reasonable progress on the issue and agree it in the legislation.