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Proceeding contribution from Lord Evans of Temple Guiting (Labour) in the House of Lords on Tuesday, 6 June 2006. It occurred during Committee of the Whole House (HL) and Debate on bill on Government of Wales Bill.


Government of Wales Bill

The purpose of Amendment No. 94 would be to allow anyone making payments into the Welsh Consolidated Fund under Clause 117 to attach conditions to those payments and set out specific consequences that may occur if they are not met. The effect of the proposed amendment would be to allow both the Secretary of State when making payments under Clause 117(1) and Ministers and departments when making payments under Clause 117(2) to impose conditions on how the money they are paying into the Welsh Consolidated Fund is to be used. The ability to impose such conditions on payments made by the Secretary of State under Clause 117(1) would subordinate Welsh Ministers to their colleagues in Whitehall and could lead to them being required to implement Whitehall policies instead of those on which they were elected by the people of Wales. The Assembly is a democratically elected body accountable to the people of Wales; it is not an agency of central government. In relation to payments made under Clause 117(2), any functions that have been agreed to be undertaken in Wales on behalf of a UK Minister of the Crown or a government department would have to be set out in a budget resolution. Where ministerial agreement has been reached for certain functions to be carried out in Wales on behalf of a UK Minister or government department, it would be inconsistent and unnecessary for legal conditions to be attached to this. Furthermore, Clause 137 requires the Auditor General, when examining Welsh Ministers’ accounts, to be satisfied that the money received by them for a particular purpose has been used for that purpose only. The provisions in Part 5 already provide sufficient control mechanisms to ensure that money paid to Welsh Ministers by the UK Government is spent only on the functions for which it was intended. Fundamentally, the amendment would fetter the democratic will of the Assembly government and is therefore, we believe, inconsistent with the devolution settlement. Given this explanation, with which I hope the noble Baroness will be satisfied, I would ask her to withdraw the amendment.


Secondary information

Type
Proceeding contribution
Reference
682 c1227-8 
Session
2005-06
Chamber / Committee
House of Lords chamber
Subjects
Devolved matters Conservation Devolution Delegated legislation Finance Legislative competence Functions Grants Legislation First ministers National Assembly for Wales Referendums Parliamentary scrutiny Politics and government Loans Ministers Publishing Water supply Wales Welsh Government Welsh Water National Assembly for Wales Commission Welsh Consolidated Fund
Legislation
Government of Wales Bill 2005-06
Link
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