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Tribunals, Courts and Enforcement Bill [HL]

I was not suggesting that it was the reason; I was simply responding to what the noble Countess, Lady Mar, said. The fact that one single category of tribunal legal member is now described as ““judge”” is not a strong enough argument to justify generalising the description. I certainly did not suggest that part of the Minister’s case to justify the description ““judge”” was that it had for two years been used in immigration tribunals. I cannot press this amendment to a vote, because we are not allowed to vote in the Moses Room. I shall withdraw it and reflect upon the matter before Report. However, I note the support I have received, both from the Liberal Democrat Benches and from the noble and learned Lord, Lord Lloyd of Berwick, who, from what he said, was very much influenced by the philosophy of Lord Justice Leggatt. I continue to take the view that ““judge”” is overformal for the legally qualified members of these tribunals, and I shall need a great deal of persuading before I have second thoughts about presenting this matter again on Report. Meanwhile, I beg leave to withdraw the amendment. Amendment, by leave, withdrawn. [Amendment No. 2 not moved.] Clause 4 agreed to. Schedule 2 [Judges and other members of the First-tier Tribunal]: