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Tribunals, Courts and Enforcement Bill [HL]

My Lords, on that point I have a fairly clear-cut view. The policy background to the Bill is a very wide-ranging White Paper in which the Government rightly took the view that there were various needs in this area, one of which was to create a more coherent tribunal system. We now have that in the form of the Tribunals Service, which can be developed still further in some aspects with the passage of the Bill. Another need was the desirability of ensuring that disputes between the citizen and the state—and sometimes between citizens themselves—should be resolved in the most proportionate, effective and sensible way. That is what we are talking about here and, in my view, it belongs fairly and squarely in a Bill which is designed to advance that wider and sensible objective. I have a great deal of sympathy with what my noble friend has said. I am not going to argue about the detail but, knowing the spirit in which the Minister approaches these matters, I am sure she will find some way of accommodating the main point while improving the detail if she feels that is necessary.